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  • M Marc Clifton

    I can succinctly state why I hate working on projects inherited from others, where a huge code base is inherited from bad programmers (and I have yet to work on a project where I have not inherited code from bad programmers, because quite frankly, those projects stay where they are because the client is happy!!!) It's because I'm spending my time debugging shit that isn't my shit, it's someone else's. And very few things piss me off more than having to spend even a miniscule fraction of my time on this planet fixing other people's shit. [edit]And I tend to find the most stinkiest shit written by Ruby on Rails code monkeys.[/edit] Marc

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    ZurdoDev
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    Marc Clifton wrote:

    bad programmers

    Also known as anyone other than one's self. :-\

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      Ernst Stavro Blofeld wrote:

      If it wasn't clogged, they wouldn't be calling us.

      Pretty sure I saw a video once where something like this happened. There may have been some funky guitar in the background... :-\

      The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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      I do believe I saw the same video! The young lady housewife wasn't wearing much was she - the plumber must have been very embarrassed... :-O

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        Ernst Stavro Blofeld wrote:

        If it wasn't clogged, they wouldn't be calling us.

        Pretty sure I saw a video once where something like this happened. There may have been some funky guitar in the background... :-\

        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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        Colin Mullikin wrote:

        There may have been some funky guitar in the background.

        :-D

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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          bad programmers

          Also known as anyone other than one's self. :-\

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          Slacker007
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          RyanDev wrote:

          Also known as anyone other than one's self.

          Give this man a quarter. :)

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            RyanDev wrote:

            Also known as anyone other than one's self.

            Give this man a quarter. :)

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            No quarter given, nor expected. :-)

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              I do believe I saw the same video! The young lady housewife wasn't wearing much was she - the plumber must have been very embarrassed... :-O

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              Ya but did the plumber lay some pipe?

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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              • M Marc Clifton

                I can succinctly state why I hate working on projects inherited from others, where a huge code base is inherited from bad programmers (and I have yet to work on a project where I have not inherited code from bad programmers, because quite frankly, those projects stay where they are because the client is happy!!!) It's because I'm spending my time debugging shit that isn't my shit, it's someone else's. And very few things piss me off more than having to spend even a miniscule fraction of my time on this planet fixing other people's shit. [edit]And I tend to find the most stinkiest shit written by Ruby on Rails code monkeys.[/edit] Marc

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                I like the name Critical Software Development, the implication is that if it is not critical you don't need me! I think it may still be registered to me in Oz!

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  I can succinctly state why I hate working on projects inherited from others, where a huge code base is inherited from bad programmers (and I have yet to work on a project where I have not inherited code from bad programmers, because quite frankly, those projects stay where they are because the client is happy!!!) It's because I'm spending my time debugging shit that isn't my shit, it's someone else's. And very few things piss me off more than having to spend even a miniscule fraction of my time on this planet fixing other people's shit. [edit]And I tend to find the most stinkiest shit written by Ruby on Rails code monkeys.[/edit] Marc

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                  Dominic Burford
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                  No developer ever sets out to write bad code. Every developer writes the best code they can given the time, information and skills they have at the time. With hindsight, we can all look back at even our best work and see room for improvement.

                  "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    I can succinctly state why I hate working on projects inherited from others, where a huge code base is inherited from bad programmers (and I have yet to work on a project where I have not inherited code from bad programmers, because quite frankly, those projects stay where they are because the client is happy!!!) It's because I'm spending my time debugging shit that isn't my shit, it's someone else's. And very few things piss me off more than having to spend even a miniscule fraction of my time on this planet fixing other people's shit. [edit]And I tend to find the most stinkiest shit written by Ruby on Rails code monkeys.[/edit] Marc

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                    And of course your projects and code are perfect! Calm down dear, take a chill pill and thank your lucky stars you aren't shovelling shit for a living!

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      I can succinctly state why I hate working on projects inherited from others, where a huge code base is inherited from bad programmers (and I have yet to work on a project where I have not inherited code from bad programmers, because quite frankly, those projects stay where they are because the client is happy!!!) It's because I'm spending my time debugging shit that isn't my shit, it's someone else's. And very few things piss me off more than having to spend even a miniscule fraction of my time on this planet fixing other people's shit. [edit]And I tend to find the most stinkiest shit written by Ruby on Rails code monkeys.[/edit] Marc

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                      Jacquers
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                      We have inherited some not so good projects as well that we have to maintain. The one was written by a slightly dyslexic self-taught coder. The other by someone relatively fresh out of university. It has some interesting things like all events being handled in the apps main window instead of the dialog being shown. I hate working on that project, but at least you know where to look for the code. Code reviews would have helped sort out this mess and would have helped the dev learn how to do things better.

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                      • D Dominic Burford

                        No developer ever sets out to write bad code. Every developer writes the best code they can given the time, information and skills they have at the time. With hindsight, we can all look back at even our best work and see room for improvement.

                        "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                        When I look at what I'm currently working on, there must have been a contest over many years to write the worst and most unmaintainable code.

                        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                        • C Colin Mullikin

                          I have recently, actually. One of our senior devs left the company for greener pastures and I moved into his team to pick up his work. His code is actually quite nice, and a lot of it is way beyond stuff I have ever done before, so his intuitive naming conventions and copious comments are quite helpful.

                          The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                          You are dead, and you've gone to heaven. Lucky you.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                            Ya but did the plumber lay some pipe?

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                            Roto. Rooter.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              I can succinctly state why I hate working on projects inherited from others, where a huge code base is inherited from bad programmers (and I have yet to work on a project where I have not inherited code from bad programmers, because quite frankly, those projects stay where they are because the client is happy!!!) It's because I'm spending my time debugging shit that isn't my shit, it's someone else's. And very few things piss me off more than having to spend even a miniscule fraction of my time on this planet fixing other people's shit. [edit]And I tend to find the most stinkiest shit written by Ruby on Rails code monkeys.[/edit] Marc

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                              Gary R Wheeler
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                              Been there, done that indeed. I inherited a moderate size body of code when the company 're-organized', and then spent about 40% of my time over the next two years re-writing every damned bit of it except for the visuals. It's part of a WPF app. The UI looked really nice, but the XAML creating the UI and the code-behind was absolutely wretched.

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                I can succinctly state why I hate working on projects inherited from others, where a huge code base is inherited from bad programmers (and I have yet to work on a project where I have not inherited code from bad programmers, because quite frankly, those projects stay where they are because the client is happy!!!) It's because I'm spending my time debugging shit that isn't my shit, it's someone else's. And very few things piss me off more than having to spend even a miniscule fraction of my time on this planet fixing other people's shit. [edit]And I tend to find the most stinkiest shit written by Ruby on Rails code monkeys.[/edit] Marc

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                                Working on trying to wade through a large application that was originally designed by persons who couldn't write "Hello World!" in HTML. Add to that a passing army of contractors who added droves of classes that have to be dissected before you can make small changes, like don't approve something that is marked failed.

                                I just need a day off, way off!

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  I can succinctly state why I hate working on projects inherited from others, where a huge code base is inherited from bad programmers (and I have yet to work on a project where I have not inherited code from bad programmers, because quite frankly, those projects stay where they are because the client is happy!!!) It's because I'm spending my time debugging shit that isn't my shit, it's someone else's. And very few things piss me off more than having to spend even a miniscule fraction of my time on this planet fixing other people's shit. [edit]And I tend to find the most stinkiest shit written by Ruby on Rails code monkeys.[/edit] Marc

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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  And very few things piss me off more than having to spend even a miniscule fraction of my time on this planet fixing other people's sh*t.

                                  Strange, that's one of the things I actually enjoy. I get a good feeling of accomplishment by making a system better. Sometimes, that means introducing new functionality, sometimes it means cleaning up the turds. I also think that's made me a better developer. You know, some people are only there to serve as an example to others sorta thing...seeing all that over the years makes me more aware of sh*t not to do.

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                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    And very few things piss me off more than having to spend even a miniscule fraction of my time on this planet fixing other people's sh*t.

                                    Strange, that's one of the things I actually enjoy. I get a good feeling of accomplishment by making a system better. Sometimes, that means introducing new functionality, sometimes it means cleaning up the turds. I also think that's made me a better developer. You know, some people are only there to serve as an example to others sorta thing...seeing all that over the years makes me more aware of sh*t not to do.

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                                    Marc Clifton
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                                    agolddog wrote:

                                    Strange, that's one of the things I actually enjoy. I get a good feeling of accomplishment by making a system better.

                                    Indeed, so do I. Unfortunately, there are numerous "garbage in, garbage out" situations that apply not just to data but to code, and there's really nothing I can contribute that makes a system better unless it were rewritten from scratch. And that's usually not realistic, so the cycle of bandaids and patches continues. Marc

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                                      And of course your projects and code are perfect! Calm down dear, take a chill pill and thank your lucky stars you aren't shovelling shit for a living!

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Paul S Wilcox wrote:

                                      nd of course your projects and code are perfect!

                                      Of course! :)

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                                      and thank your lucky stars you aren't shovelling sh*t for a living!

                                      The amusing thing about that is I've actually volunteered on a farm school to muck out the stables and sheep pens. Marc

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                                        No developer ever sets out to write bad code. Every developer writes the best code they can given the time, information and skills they have at the time. With hindsight, we can all look back at even our best work and see room for improvement.

                                        "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                                        Marc Clifton
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                                        Dominic Burford wrote:

                                        No developer ever sets out to write bad code.

                                        On the other hand, there are developers that should have the self-introspection to step away from the keyboard. Marc

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          bad programmers

                                          Also known as anyone other than one's self. :-\

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                          Marc Clifton
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                                          RyanDev wrote:

                                          Also known as anyone other than one's self.

                                          Quite so, but I tend to rank myself in the "least bad" category. :) Marc

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