Microsoft ignored focus group feedback about Clippy
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I can't see how it came to be news! It happened a thousand time in the past...
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If they'd been really smart, they never would've had a focus group in the first place. When they asked Steve Jobs why he didn't take customer feedback he replied something like: "Did Thomas Edison ask for feedback when he invented the lightbulb?" If you have to ask, then you probably don't know what is actually good anyway. :D Seriously, I take one look at Clippy and instantly know: LOSER! EDIT Here's another: Henry Ford said, "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have asked for a better horse."
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If they'd been really smart, they never would've had a focus group in the first place. When they asked Steve Jobs why he didn't take customer feedback he replied something like: "Did Thomas Edison ask for feedback when he invented the lightbulb?" If you have to ask, then you probably don't know what is actually good anyway. :D Seriously, I take one look at Clippy and instantly know: LOSER! EDIT Here's another: Henry Ford said, "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have asked for a better horse."
The light bulb giving direct feedback on whether or not the idea is correct, same thing can not be said of modern software (or any man/machine interface). Edison was smart enough to know he did not need feedback. Jobs comparing himself to Einstein is a bit funny though. Makes one wonder why he held back all those previous years :rolleyes:
newton.saber wrote:
If you have to ask, then you probably don't know what is actually good anyway. :-D
I'd recommend you read Joel Spolsky's blog, he knows a thing or two about the subject.
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If they'd been really smart, they never would've had a focus group in the first place. When they asked Steve Jobs why he didn't take customer feedback he replied something like: "Did Thomas Edison ask for feedback when he invented the lightbulb?" If you have to ask, then you probably don't know what is actually good anyway. :D Seriously, I take one look at Clippy and instantly know: LOSER! EDIT Here's another: Henry Ford said, "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have asked for a better horse."
Except that Thomas Edison didn't invent the lightbulb. He just made a really, really good one. Much like much of the work of Mr Jobs.
cheers Chris Maunder
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Wait. Let me get this straight: The Office Assistant was found to be too masculine? :doh:
cheers Chris Maunder
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Except that Thomas Edison didn't invent the lightbulb. He just made a really, really good one. Much like much of the work of Mr Jobs.
cheers Chris Maunder
I know. I wondered how long it would take someone to point that out. I kept the quote as it was. I wonder if Jobs too knew Edison didn't actually invent the lightbulb but only made the filament last longer thus making it a commercially viable product. I think the point is that Steve Jobs could even bend a quote to suit his own needs. He was a genius after all. ;P
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I know. I wondered how long it would take someone to point that out. I kept the quote as it was. I wonder if Jobs too knew Edison didn't actually invent the lightbulb but only made the filament last longer thus making it a commercially viable product. I think the point is that Steve Jobs could even bend a quote to suit his own needs. He was a genius after all. ;P
Steve Jobs had an overactive aesthetic gland and to him, I suspect, a product wasn't a product (be it a light globe or a music player or a phone) until it was perfect (within the physical limitations of the time). No compromises, not pandering to comprises by committee. I'm extremely sad that's now gone. Apple will continue to refine, based on market feedback, what they have going, but I think the "innovations" that will now come out will be market driven forays into areas they can simply apply their legacy formula. That makes me sad. Very sad.
cheers Chris Maunder
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Wait. Let me get this straight: The Office Assistant was found to be too masculine? :doh:
cheers Chris Maunder
So why didn't they use that red rubber ball as default? :D Maybe too soft?
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Wait. Let me get this straight: The Office Assistant was found to be too masculine? :doh:
cheers Chris Maunder
Yeah. I wonder what they were smoking to come up with that.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Steve Jobs had an overactive aesthetic gland and to him, I suspect, a product wasn't a product (be it a light globe or a music player or a phone) until it was perfect (within the physical limitations of the time). No compromises, not pandering to comprises by committee. I'm extremely sad that's now gone. Apple will continue to refine, based on market feedback, what they have going, but I think the "innovations" that will now come out will be market driven forays into areas they can simply apply their legacy formula. That makes me sad. Very sad.
cheers Chris Maunder
I agree and I'm an Androider. I don't use Apple products. However, I'm currently reading the Walter Isaacson Bio of Steve Jobs and the best thing about Jobs was that he was The Visionary for the product. That is what Apple will truly miss. I honestly think Jobs was a user of the stuff that he (his team) was building. Then he was uber-opinionated about how he wanted to use those things. At times his opinions about things such as even the inside of the product looking beautiful was absolutely ridiculous since you have to get the product to market at a reasonable price. But, I'd much rather have a product by an Artist like Jobs than some person who churns out crap. Interesting discussion.
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Yeah. I wonder what they were smoking to come up with that.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
But the little puppy dog and the Wizard dude!?! Awesome. Completely and totally Awesome. ;P
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I agree and I'm an Androider. I don't use Apple products. However, I'm currently reading the Walter Isaacson Bio of Steve Jobs and the best thing about Jobs was that he was The Visionary for the product. That is what Apple will truly miss. I honestly think Jobs was a user of the stuff that he (his team) was building. Then he was uber-opinionated about how he wanted to use those things. At times his opinions about things such as even the inside of the product looking beautiful was absolutely ridiculous since you have to get the product to market at a reasonable price. But, I'd much rather have a product by an Artist like Jobs than some person who churns out crap. Interesting discussion.
The most important contribution Steve made was to say "no".
cheers Chris Maunder
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"Too masculine"? I never saw Clippy, but I suppose it wasn't modeled after Pete Steele or Manowar. Next complain I suppose will be "too gay", "too white", "not child friendly" and so many political incorrectness whining. I want my Clippy to look like a zerg hydralisk, crawl over caption bars - if those still exists, and hissing and spitting to programs attempting to write in %PROGRAMFILES%.
