Ethically wrong?
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In our Office cafeteria, Full Pizza costs 4 Euro and half Pizza cost 2.50 Euro. So is it ethically wrong with two guys who want half pizza come together and buy whole pizza and divide it later? So Cafeteria earns only 4 instead of 5?
cheers,
Super
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In our Office cafeteria, Full Pizza costs 4 Euro and half Pizza cost 2.50 Euro. So is it ethically wrong with two guys who want half pizza come together and buy whole pizza and divide it later? So Cafeteria earns only 4 instead of 5?
cheers,
Super
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No it's ethically perfectly correct because basically you pay less due to higher buy amount (mass is cheaper) :-D
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In our Office cafeteria, Full Pizza costs 4 Euro and half Pizza cost 2.50 Euro. So is it ethically wrong with two guys who want half pizza come together and buy whole pizza and divide it later? So Cafeteria earns only 4 instead of 5?
cheers,
Super
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Nothing wrong at all. Free market economics, you could make some money with a simple service here...
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In our Office cafeteria, Full Pizza costs 4 Euro and half Pizza cost 2.50 Euro. So is it ethically wrong with two guys who want half pizza come together and buy whole pizza and divide it later? So Cafeteria earns only 4 instead of 5?
cheers,
Super
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Eating anything less than a full pizza is very unethical! :wtf:
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In our Office cafeteria, Full Pizza costs 4 Euro and half Pizza cost 2.50 Euro. So is it ethically wrong with two guys who want half pizza come together and buy whole pizza and divide it later? So Cafeteria earns only 4 instead of 5?
cheers,
Super
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Unethical would be standing outside the canteen selling 1/2 a Pizza for 2.25 Euro...
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In our Office cafeteria, Full Pizza costs 4 Euro and half Pizza cost 2.50 Euro. So is it ethically wrong with two guys who want half pizza come together and buy whole pizza and divide it later? So Cafeteria earns only 4 instead of 5?
cheers,
Super
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I beg to differ with some of the other posters. Assuming that you eat the pizza in the cafeteria, they are charging you an extra 1 Euro for cutting the pizza in two, for using an extra chair, and for providing you with (and subsequently washing) an extra set of cutlery and a plate. Comparing the price (in other locations) of a takeaway pizza to the price of eating in the restaurant should tell you whether this is a fair price. Whether or not the price is fair, evading the payment is ethically iffy IMAO. Of course, if you take the pizza and eat it elsewhere, you are not evading the payment of any of the above costs so my argument is irrelevant.
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In our Office cafeteria, Full Pizza costs 4 Euro and half Pizza cost 2.50 Euro. So is it ethically wrong with two guys who want half pizza come together and buy whole pizza and divide it later? So Cafeteria earns only 4 instead of 5?
cheers,
Super
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No - the 50c is a hedge against having to throw away an un-bought half of the pizza. If two of you buy the pizza that risk is zero so there is no need for that hedge.
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I beg to differ with some of the other posters. Assuming that you eat the pizza in the cafeteria, they are charging you an extra 1 Euro for cutting the pizza in two, for using an extra chair, and for providing you with (and subsequently washing) an extra set of cutlery and a plate. Comparing the price (in other locations) of a takeaway pizza to the price of eating in the restaurant should tell you whether this is a fair price. Whether or not the price is fair, evading the payment is ethically iffy IMAO. Of course, if you take the pizza and eat it elsewhere, you are not evading the payment of any of the above costs so my argument is irrelevant.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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In our Office cafeteria, Full Pizza costs 4 Euro and half Pizza cost 2.50 Euro. So is it ethically wrong with two guys who want half pizza come together and buy whole pizza and divide it later? So Cafeteria earns only 4 instead of 5?
cheers,
Super
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But do they share the plate? Otherwise the cafeteria is down on the deal as they have twice the washing up.
veni bibi saltavi
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But do they share the plate? Otherwise the cafeteria is down on the deal as they have twice the washing up.
veni bibi saltavi
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Unethical would be standing outside the canteen selling 1/2 a Pizza for 2.25 Euro...
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Unethical would be standing outside the canteen selling 1/2 a Pizza for 2.25 Euro...
I disagree. It may be illegal (he would be selling food without a licence, sanitary premises, etc.), but not necessarily unethical. We have two cases: 1. The seller buys whole pizzas from the cafeteria at 4 Euro, cuts them in two, and sells each half for 2.25 Euro, making a profit of 0.50 Euro per pizza. 2. The seller brings in pizzas from elsewhere, selling them in halves. In case (1), he is simply exploiting his ability to buy wholesale and sell retail. He is charging each customer 0.25 Euro to cut the pizza in two rather than the 0.50 Euro charged by the cafeteria, but is also providing a lesser service (no seating, etc.). Case (2) is problematic. He is directly competing against the cafeteria, but on an unfair basis. He does not have to provide any of the amenities provided by the cafeteria, and can therefore provide the same goods at a lower cost.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Unethical would be standing outside the canteen selling 1/2 a Pizza for 2.25 Euro...
I disagree. It may be illegal (he would be selling food without a licence, sanitary premises, etc.), but not necessarily unethical. We have two cases: 1. The seller buys whole pizzas from the cafeteria at 4 Euro, cuts them in two, and sells each half for 2.25 Euro, making a profit of 0.50 Euro per pizza. 2. The seller brings in pizzas from elsewhere, selling them in halves. In case (1), he is simply exploiting his ability to buy wholesale and sell retail. He is charging each customer 0.25 Euro to cut the pizza in two rather than the 0.50 Euro charged by the cafeteria, but is also providing a lesser service (no seating, etc.). Case (2) is problematic. He is directly competing against the cafeteria, but on an unfair basis. He does not have to provide any of the amenities provided by the cafeteria, and can therefore provide the same goods at a lower cost.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Either way, he is running a business using his employers premises... :laugh:
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The second person is still using extra cutlery and crockery. The cost to the cafeteria may be less, but it is not zero.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Either way, he is running a business using his employers premises... :laugh:
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I assumed that he was selling the pizzas on the pavement outside the office. I concede your point if he was actually selling the pizzas in his employer's premises.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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I beg to differ with some of the other posters. Assuming that you eat the pizza in the cafeteria, they are charging you an extra 1 Euro for cutting the pizza in two, for using an extra chair, and for providing you with (and subsequently washing) an extra set of cutlery and a plate. Comparing the price (in other locations) of a takeaway pizza to the price of eating in the restaurant should tell you whether this is a fair price. Whether or not the price is fair, evading the payment is ethically iffy IMAO. Of course, if you take the pizza and eat it elsewhere, you are not evading the payment of any of the above costs so my argument is irrelevant.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
using an extra chair
So if you go to cafeteria and just chill with your coworkers without eating anything, then you're stealing?
Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
providing you with (and subsequently washing) an extra set of cutlery and a plate
Do you get discount if you don't use any?
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In our Office cafeteria, Full Pizza costs 4 Euro and half Pizza cost 2.50 Euro. So is it ethically wrong with two guys who want half pizza come together and buy whole pizza and divide it later? So Cafeteria earns only 4 instead of 5?
cheers,
Super
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Have you thought of buying up all the pizza and selling it at 2.25 Euro for half a pizza? :-D
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
using an extra chair
So if you go to cafeteria and just chill with your coworkers without eating anything, then you're stealing?
Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
providing you with (and subsequently washing) an extra set of cutlery and a plate
Do you get discount if you don't use any?
Mladen Janković wrote:
So if you go to cafeteria and just chill with your coworkers without eating anything, then you're stealing?
A cafeteria provides places to eat etc. so that people will buy the food that is sells. They may be willing to tolerate a few freeloaders (people who don't eat) in the interest of profiting from those who do, but how long could they stay in business if every table were to have one eater and a few non-eaters?
Mladen Janković wrote:
Do you get discount if you don't use any?
No more than you get a discount if you leave food on your plate. (The leftovers may not be fit for human consumption, but I'm certain that they could be used for animal feed or for composting.)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Mladen Janković wrote:
So if you go to cafeteria and just chill with your coworkers without eating anything, then you're stealing?
A cafeteria provides places to eat etc. so that people will buy the food that is sells. They may be willing to tolerate a few freeloaders (people who don't eat) in the interest of profiting from those who do, but how long could they stay in business if every table were to have one eater and a few non-eaters?
Mladen Janković wrote:
Do you get discount if you don't use any?
No more than you get a discount if you leave food on your plate. (The leftovers may not be fit for human consumption, but I'm certain that they could be used for animal feed or for composting.)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
It's all very nice, but now you are switching arguments from ethics to business. Or are you saying that our moral obligation is to maximize profit of cafeteria? So once again, are you stealing by not eating in cafeteria? And why is it more ethical to charge customers for something that they are not using, than for customers to use extra of the same?
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In our Office cafeteria, Full Pizza costs 4 Euro and half Pizza cost 2.50 Euro. So is it ethically wrong with two guys who want half pizza come together and buy whole pizza and divide it later? So Cafeteria earns only 4 instead of 5?
cheers,
Super
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Almost everybody seems to have failed to realise is that the extra price on the half pizza is fully intended as a disincentive to encourage you to buy the full one. They want you to buy the whole one. Whether you divide it into a thousand pieces and feed it to the ducks or break bread with a colleague is of absolutely no concern to them. And, for the love of God, who eats pizza with a knife and fork?
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Almost everybody seems to have failed to realise is that the extra price on the half pizza is fully intended as a disincentive to encourage you to buy the full one. They want you to buy the whole one. Whether you divide it into a thousand pieces and feed it to the ducks or break bread with a colleague is of absolutely no concern to them. And, for the love of God, who eats pizza with a knife and fork?
Member 9082365 wrote:
They want you to buy the whole one.
I too, thought it was obvious. Apparently it's not, or Lounge is another version of argument clinic[^].
