TSA confiscated cellphone battery charger
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
isn't that called theft?
Not when they wear a TSA uniform. Okay, lesson learned, next flight, use the U.S.Mail (or perhaps UPS) and send my clothes and items in a separate box, out of the reach of TSA agents' hands, to the hotel.
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Just clicked. Just looked. You are right. "...External chargers are also considered to be a battery. ..." How could I have ever missed such an obvious violation ??? I wonder if that's why they have such good prices on eBay for them; i.e., it's a sideline business for TSA agents. Thanks for the knowledge.
I understand the fuss about lithium batteries. If you drive a nail through one it will explode. It's of course on youtube if you'd like to watch it. But chargers?!
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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I'm a non-traveler as well. Last time I was on a plane was in...1998, I think. I let my passport expire years ago, and I intend to keep it that way. So I wanna ask the travelers: When the TSA "confiscates" something of value, do they snail-mail it back to you at your home address? Or is there a procedure to request that they do? Or are you SOL altogether?
Good question. I estimate the value of my crimes against America to be somewhere between $10 and $15. I'll take the high side and make it $14.50 With minimum wage at $7.25, that's two hours. I will invest up to, but no more than, two hours to find out if I can recover the items.
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you would also need to define your chopper as "consumer electronics" rather than vehicle and get somekind of casing for the batteries.
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I already keep them in fireproof bags just for this purpose. Also the document says that the limit is 100 Ah, but these batteries would end up with 111 Wh (typo! I wrote Ah), so I would have to take some with less capacity and end up with even shorter flight time.
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This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
isn't that called theft?
Not when they wear a TSA uniform. Okay, lesson learned, next flight, use the U.S.Mail (or perhaps UPS) and send my clothes and items in a separate box, out of the reach of TSA agents' hands, to the hotel.
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I already keep them in fireproof bags just for this purpose. Also the document says that the limit is 100 Ah, but these batteries would end up with 111 Wh (typo! I wrote Ah), so I would have to take some with less capacity and end up with even shorter flight time.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.Read the next paragraph. "Passengers can also bring two (2) larger lithium ion batteries (100-160 watt hours per battery) in their carry-on." But they are not allowed in the checked luggage.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
isn't that called theft?
Not when they wear a TSA uniform. Okay, lesson learned, next flight, use the U.S.Mail (or perhaps UPS) and send my clothes and items in a separate box, out of the reach of TSA agents' hands, to the hotel.
C-P-User-3 wrote:
Okay, lesson learned, next flight, use the U.S.Mail (or perhaps UPS) and send my clothes and items in a separate box, out of the reach of TSA agents' hands, to the hotel.
That may be a bad idea: arriving at an airport with little or no luggage is a "trigger" for "internal concealment" inspections... :laugh:
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Went on a trip. Packed a second battery and small daily recharge gizmo for the cellphone Trip out there, no problem. Trip back, I heard some sort of announcement about Lithium Ion batteries. I thought, "No problem; NiMH". Oooops, I lied, it was indeed Lithium Ion. Arrived home; no battery. Okay, if I broke the rule, they are the authority, they enforce the rule. Now, a bit too far guys: they also confiscated the charger; no lithium, no ions. It was one of THESE[^] sorts of things. I'm guessing that the total money lost was about $10, maybe $15. Still, there was no reason to take the charger. Has this happened to anyone else ?
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Read the next paragraph. "Passengers can also bring two (2) larger lithium ion batteries (100-160 watt hours per battery) in their carry-on." But they are not allowed in the checked luggage.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Yes, I also checked on the safety bags. They are exactly the packaging they had in mind and the contacts must be taped to prevent shorts. That's reasonable. But before I do that, I will need some FPV equipment. Here is a video[^] of a T-Rex 550 (like mine) with FPV and also telemetry. With FPV you see the flight on your goggles with the telemetry and can still record the video without it.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
Went on a trip. Packed a second battery and small daily recharge gizmo for the cellphone Trip out there, no problem. Trip back, I heard some sort of announcement about Lithium Ion batteries. I thought, "No problem; NiMH". Oooops, I lied, it was indeed Lithium Ion. Arrived home; no battery. Okay, if I broke the rule, they are the authority, they enforce the rule. Now, a bit too far guys: they also confiscated the charger; no lithium, no ions. It was one of THESE[^] sorts of things. I'm guessing that the total money lost was about $10, maybe $15. Still, there was no reason to take the charger. Has this happened to anyone else ?
C-P-User-3 wrote:
Still, there was no reason to take the charger.
With the thousands of items that those workers have to look at each hour, they probably did not have time to figure out exactly what it was. They erred on the side of caution. Or they simply stole it.
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Yes, I also checked on the safety bags. They are exactly the packaging they had in mind and the contacts must be taped to prevent shorts. That's reasonable. But before I do that, I will need some FPV equipment. Here is a video[^] of a T-Rex 550 (like mine) with FPV and also telemetry. With FPV you see the flight on your goggles with the telemetry and can still record the video without it.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.Then you probably will need to get an allowance from the Department of Homeland Security. :~
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Not yet, but I would like to mount a camera on my RC heli and go flying at some worthy places like the Grand Canyon. Taking along the heli is not a big deal, but I would also need a few flight batteries. Those would be 5000 mAh 22.2V lithium polymere batteries, weighing only little less than 1kg each. They are even more explosive than lithium ion batteries and are not in a protective case to save the additional weight. The only solution probably to buy the batteries when I arrive and not take them back home. What a waste, those batteries are not really cheap. Just google for '6s 5000 mAh' and you will see some nice prices.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.Just FYI. Buddy of mine got fined $750 for flying a drone at Zion's National Park: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/06/20/national-park-service-bans-drone-use-in-all-national-parks[^]
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If I took my old RC heli they might make more fuss - it used to run on nitro-methanol which was a mixture of methanol plus a few drops of nitroglycerin. This was a few years back of course; around the mid-70s when you could still buy nitroglycerin over the counter.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
Oh yeah! There's just nothing like the smell of this stuff mixed with castor oil. Oh for the memories of childhood - with the exception of the clean-up after a flight..
Forogar wrote:
it used to run on nitro-methanol which was a mixture of methanol plus a few drops of nitroglycerin.
Not that it matters, though for what it's worth - it's actually nitro-methane and methanol. You still can buy nitro-methane with relatively little fuss. Even if it is 50 bucks a gallon. http://www.amazon.com/Torco-RC-100-Nitro-methane-gallon/dp/B00655PVAI[^]
"When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down 'happy'. They told me I didn't understand the assignment, and I told them they didn't understand life." - John Lennon
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Went on a trip. Packed a second battery and small daily recharge gizmo for the cellphone Trip out there, no problem. Trip back, I heard some sort of announcement about Lithium Ion batteries. I thought, "No problem; NiMH". Oooops, I lied, it was indeed Lithium Ion. Arrived home; no battery. Okay, if I broke the rule, they are the authority, they enforce the rule. Now, a bit too far guys: they also confiscated the charger; no lithium, no ions. It was one of THESE[^] sorts of things. I'm guessing that the total money lost was about $10, maybe $15. Still, there was no reason to take the charger. Has this happened to anyone else ?
I would buy them for delivery at the hotel, and mail them back to the house before I left.
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I would buy them for delivery at the hotel, and mail them back to the house before I left.
My exact plan. Duh You got mind reading software over there ? You work for google ?
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Oh yeah! There's just nothing like the smell of this stuff mixed with castor oil. Oh for the memories of childhood - with the exception of the clean-up after a flight..
Forogar wrote:
it used to run on nitro-methanol which was a mixture of methanol plus a few drops of nitroglycerin.
Not that it matters, though for what it's worth - it's actually nitro-methane and methanol. You still can buy nitro-methane with relatively little fuss. Even if it is 50 bucks a gallon. http://www.amazon.com/Torco-RC-100-Nitro-methane-gallon/dp/B00655PVAI[^]
"When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down 'happy'. They told me I didn't understand the assignment, and I told them they didn't understand life." - John Lennon
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it's actually nitro-methane and methanol.
You mean my big brother lied to me? :doh: He warned me not to spill a drop of the "nitroglycerin" as it would blow a hole in the floor! :omg: I was sooooo careful with it. :~ Damn it's tough being a seven-year-old with brothers who are 8+ years older than you. :sigh:
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it's actually nitro-methane and methanol.
You mean my big brother lied to me? :doh: He warned me not to spill a drop of the "nitroglycerin" as it would blow a hole in the floor! :omg: I was sooooo careful with it. :~ Damn it's tough being a seven-year-old with brothers who are 8+ years older than you. :sigh:
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
It's a tough gig being an older brother at times. If he was anything like me, he told the truth as best he knew it. :grin: That's what I thought it must've had in it too. As a nearly/barely a teenager, I thought nitro was synonymous with nitroglycerine. A excited discussion with a patient father set me straight on that little misnomer. Though, for what it's worth - Nitromethane is a part of commercial high-explosive mixtures. If you've some time and inclination - the late Gerald L Hurst has some very readable posts in old newsgroups. One of them starts out with a story of someone that had kept a gallon of nitromethane in the garage. If you want to talk physics, you go to Stephen Hawking. If you wanted to talk about things that go/went bang in the daytime, you talk to Gerry. He was a chemist and in later years, expert witness at many trials. The tone of his posts is something I've watched become rarer and rarer in the past 20 or so years Here's one of his gems: glhurst@onr.com - rec.pyrotechnics - RE Factor[^]
"When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down 'happy'. They told me I didn't understand the assignment, and I told them they didn't understand life." - John Lennon
