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  • M Marco Bertschi

    Now that everyone seems to go crazy about the new Windows version I recognize that there is pretty much the same discussion going on with every new Windows version. Remember when people rather wanted to stick with Win 98[^] instead of going with XP? Time flies by, and UI are changing. Over time there was always more screen real estate becoming available, and users needed to adopt to new ways of using this SRE. MS is more and more pushing towards service based payment and we (as developers and users) have exactly three options: - Go ahead and adopt with the future - Stick with Win 7 and ignore new ideas (Including the hope of MS going back, which won't happen until there's desert in Alaska) - Go get a Mac / Chromebook / Linux installation Your decision.

    "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    For about 7 years now my main machine is Linux (Fedora) and all the others are VMs..So I have not the slightest problem to install any new version of Windows - in a VM... To make it more fun, VirtualBox has the 'seamless' mode for years, so actually I never open the VM as VM but only windows of the applications I use...

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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    • M Marco Bertschi

      Now that everyone seems to go crazy about the new Windows version I recognize that there is pretty much the same discussion going on with every new Windows version. Remember when people rather wanted to stick with Win 98[^] instead of going with XP? Time flies by, and UI are changing. Over time there was always more screen real estate becoming available, and users needed to adopt to new ways of using this SRE. MS is more and more pushing towards service based payment and we (as developers and users) have exactly three options: - Go ahead and adopt with the future - Stick with Win 7 and ignore new ideas (Including the hope of MS going back, which won't happen until there's desert in Alaska) - Go get a Mac / Chromebook / Linux installation Your decision.

      "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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      OriginalGriff
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      Um...except for Windows ME. And Vista. And Win 8 ... :laugh: Me? I stuck to XP to avoid the horrorshow that was Vista. Then I stuck with Win7 to avoid the kiddie play room that was Win 8. Win 10? Hope it works...

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      • M Marco Bertschi

        Now that everyone seems to go crazy about the new Windows version I recognize that there is pretty much the same discussion going on with every new Windows version. Remember when people rather wanted to stick with Win 98[^] instead of going with XP? Time flies by, and UI are changing. Over time there was always more screen real estate becoming available, and users needed to adopt to new ways of using this SRE. MS is more and more pushing towards service based payment and we (as developers and users) have exactly three options: - Go ahead and adopt with the future - Stick with Win 7 and ignore new ideas (Including the hope of MS going back, which won't happen until there's desert in Alaska) - Go get a Mac / Chromebook / Linux installation Your decision.

        "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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        Corporal Agarn
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        And why did Microsoft go to W10 instead of W9? My theory is they cannot count unless it is money. :-D

        Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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        • C Corporal Agarn

          And why did Microsoft go to W10 instead of W9? My theory is they cannot count unless it is money. :-D

          Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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          OriginalGriff
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          Because even they want to be as far away from Win8 as possible... :laugh:

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • M Marco Bertschi

            Now that everyone seems to go crazy about the new Windows version I recognize that there is pretty much the same discussion going on with every new Windows version. Remember when people rather wanted to stick with Win 98[^] instead of going with XP? Time flies by, and UI are changing. Over time there was always more screen real estate becoming available, and users needed to adopt to new ways of using this SRE. MS is more and more pushing towards service based payment and we (as developers and users) have exactly three options: - Go ahead and adopt with the future - Stick with Win 7 and ignore new ideas (Including the hope of MS going back, which won't happen until there's desert in Alaska) - Go get a Mac / Chromebook / Linux installation Your decision.

            "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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            Lost User
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            Hmmm...Dessert in Alaska! But really, I have come to expect very little from Mickeysoft and they still managed to disappoint me often enough. SO i lower the bar one more time and be happy if their junk is not too annoying or buggy. Their grand new ideas don't interest me at all.

            The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
            This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
            "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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            • M Marco Bertschi

              Now that everyone seems to go crazy about the new Windows version I recognize that there is pretty much the same discussion going on with every new Windows version. Remember when people rather wanted to stick with Win 98[^] instead of going with XP? Time flies by, and UI are changing. Over time there was always more screen real estate becoming available, and users needed to adopt to new ways of using this SRE. MS is more and more pushing towards service based payment and we (as developers and users) have exactly three options: - Go ahead and adopt with the future - Stick with Win 7 and ignore new ideas (Including the hope of MS going back, which won't happen until there's desert in Alaska) - Go get a Mac / Chromebook / Linux installation Your decision.

              "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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              Nagy Vilmos
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              I go even further back. Going from DOS to Windows was for some taking real computing and turning it into a kid's game; I preferred the GUI to the command prompt but still like keyboard over mouse. Then we got to the great Windows 3.11 to Windows 95 fuster cluck. I admit it, I ran the program manager inside Win95 for a while as I preferred the UI. Actually I didn't, I just hadn't made the change to my mind set. I enjoy change, I even change my clothes daily, so why not embrace it? If you have difficulty with the new UI, then you'r probably getting old or spending too much time with :baaaa!:

              veni bibi saltavi

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              • C Corporal Agarn

                And why did Microsoft go to W10 instead of W9? My theory is they cannot count unless it is money. :-D

                Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                Richard Deeming
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                The best theory I heard was that there was too much code in the wild doing something like this:

                if (WindowsVersion.StartsWith("Windows 9"))
                {
                // Windows 95/98 code here...
                }
                else
                {
                // Windows NT / 2000 code here...
                }


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                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                  The best theory I heard was that there was too much code in the wild doing something like this:

                  if (WindowsVersion.StartsWith("Windows 9"))
                  {
                  // Windows 95/98 code here...
                  }
                  else
                  {
                  // Windows NT / 2000 code here...
                  }


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                  Corporal Agarn
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                  That could be true. However, when has MS ever thought about what the users do?:suss:

                  Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                  • C Corporal Agarn

                    And why did Microsoft go to W10 instead of W9? My theory is they cannot count unless it is money. :-D

                    Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                    Fueled By Decaff
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                    #10

                    I guess they did not want to put everybody on cloud 9? :-D

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                    • M Marco Bertschi

                      Now that everyone seems to go crazy about the new Windows version I recognize that there is pretty much the same discussion going on with every new Windows version. Remember when people rather wanted to stick with Win 98[^] instead of going with XP? Time flies by, and UI are changing. Over time there was always more screen real estate becoming available, and users needed to adopt to new ways of using this SRE. MS is more and more pushing towards service based payment and we (as developers and users) have exactly three options: - Go ahead and adopt with the future - Stick with Win 7 and ignore new ideas (Including the hope of MS going back, which won't happen until there's desert in Alaska) - Go get a Mac / Chromebook / Linux installation Your decision.

                      "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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                      snorkie
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                      It doesn't matter. I spend most of my day in Visual Studio with some random file copying in Windows Explorer. A potential few new shortcut keys and I'll be able to ignore the new OS like I ignore my current OS.

                      Hogan

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                      • F Fueled By Decaff

                        I guess they did not want to put everybody on cloud 9? :-D

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                        Corporal Agarn
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                        That would be better than a love potion no. 9[^]

                        Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Hmmm...Dessert in Alaska! But really, I have come to expect very little from Mickeysoft and they still managed to disappoint me often enough. SO i lower the bar one more time and be happy if their junk is not too annoying or buggy. Their grand new ideas don't interest me at all.

                          The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                          This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                          "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                          Lost User
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                          CDP1802 wrote:

                          Dessert in Alaska!

                          Sounds like a half-baked idea. ;P

                          There are strangers on the Plain, Croaker

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                            CDP1802 wrote:

                            Dessert in Alaska!

                            Sounds like a half-baked idea. ;P

                            There are strangers on the Plain, Croaker

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                            Lost User
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                            Who cares? Is your jet fueled and ready?

                            The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                            This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                            "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                            • M Marco Bertschi

                              Now that everyone seems to go crazy about the new Windows version I recognize that there is pretty much the same discussion going on with every new Windows version. Remember when people rather wanted to stick with Win 98[^] instead of going with XP? Time flies by, and UI are changing. Over time there was always more screen real estate becoming available, and users needed to adopt to new ways of using this SRE. MS is more and more pushing towards service based payment and we (as developers and users) have exactly three options: - Go ahead and adopt with the future - Stick with Win 7 and ignore new ideas (Including the hope of MS going back, which won't happen until there's desert in Alaska) - Go get a Mac / Chromebook / Linux installation Your decision.

                              "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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                              dandy72
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                              Marco Bertschi wrote:

                              Remember when people rather wanted to stick with Win 98[^] instead of going with XP

                              No I don't. That's because back then, I was rather enjoying the stability of NT4 (relatively speaking - 98 sets that bar pretty low), then 2000, then XP.

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                              • M Marco Bertschi

                                Now that everyone seems to go crazy about the new Windows version I recognize that there is pretty much the same discussion going on with every new Windows version. Remember when people rather wanted to stick with Win 98[^] instead of going with XP? Time flies by, and UI are changing. Over time there was always more screen real estate becoming available, and users needed to adopt to new ways of using this SRE. MS is more and more pushing towards service based payment and we (as developers and users) have exactly three options: - Go ahead and adopt with the future - Stick with Win 7 and ignore new ideas (Including the hope of MS going back, which won't happen until there's desert in Alaska) - Go get a Mac / Chromebook / Linux installation Your decision.

                                "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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                                kmoorevs
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                                Many may gasp at this, but I skipped XP, staying on 2000 until 7 came out. For now, I'm sticking with 7, even with the offer of a free upgrade to 10...after SP1 I might reconsider. :)

                                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                • C Corporal Agarn

                                  And why did Microsoft go to W10 instead of W9? My theory is they cannot count unless it is money. :-D

                                  Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                                  9082365
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                                  It's not Windows Ten, it's Windows 9 in base 9. The idea is that you can correct mistakes and issue SPs upgrade ad infinitum by simply changing the base. Windows 10 actual will be Windows 10 base 10, Windows 11 will be Windows 10 base 11, Windows 12 will be Windows 10, Windows 13 will be Windows 10, .......

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                                  • C Corporal Agarn

                                    That could be true. However, when has MS ever thought about what the users do?:suss:

                                    Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                                    erzengel des lichtes
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                                    Corporal Agarn wrote:

                                    However, when has MS ever thought about what the users do?

                                    Very often, actually, at least when they have examples. Go read The Old New Thing some time to see the horror stories of the Windows team dealing with the insanity of ensuring backward compatibility with every program out there.

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