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    The US Constitution is based on a book. What is the the next constitution based upon? Here are what some modern writers (science fiction) ones think. http://www.free-market.net/spotlight/fiction/[^] "But by the end of the novel, after a revolution against Earth, the Lunar colonists have implemented a limited government. Whether it will stay limited is left unresolved. The worlds created by Heinlein and Smith are explicitly individualistic and market-oriented, whether as a matter of ideology or social evolution. But some talented writers have come up with alternative visions. Ken Macleod is one of the more intriguing libertarian authors to come along in years because of his rather peculiar political credentials: he's a former Trotskyite who retains socialist sympathies and speaks the language of the left." < sorry , had to add, know one is reading this anyway:laugh::laugh: http://reason.com/0011/cr.jw.anarchies.shtml[^] " Q: I take it you see the possibility of a socialist resurgence, if capitalism’s stock starts going down again? A: Yeah, I think that’s a definite possibility. Q: How likely would it be that a revived anti-capitalist radicalism would take on the old Marxist or Leninist garb, instead of a Green or populist or left-anarchist face? A: I think that will vary from country to country, depending on how well the various groups that see themselves as Leninist have survived. In Britain, the largest groups to the left of Labor are in fact quite influenced by one form or another of Trotskyism. We even have a Trotskyist member of the Scottish Parliament, Tommy Sheridan, who’s actually quite popular. He is the member of the Scottish Parliament for the Scottish Socialist Party, which is capable of contesting elections at least." Where I disagree with a lot of libertarian rhetoric is the assumption that socialism is finished. Whether it’s a good or bad thing, I don’t think it’s finished at all. I also don’t think that the questions that gave rise to the socialist movement in the first place have gone away. Q: What are the most pressing of those? A: I suppose the most urgent one is the question of war. You get this glib libertarian argument that war has nothing to do with capita

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      The US Constitution is based on a book. What is the the next constitution based upon? Here are what some modern writers (science fiction) ones think. http://www.free-market.net/spotlight/fiction/[^] "But by the end of the novel, after a revolution against Earth, the Lunar colonists have implemented a limited government. Whether it will stay limited is left unresolved. The worlds created by Heinlein and Smith are explicitly individualistic and market-oriented, whether as a matter of ideology or social evolution. But some talented writers have come up with alternative visions. Ken Macleod is one of the more intriguing libertarian authors to come along in years because of his rather peculiar political credentials: he's a former Trotskyite who retains socialist sympathies and speaks the language of the left." < sorry , had to add, know one is reading this anyway:laugh::laugh: http://reason.com/0011/cr.jw.anarchies.shtml[^] " Q: I take it you see the possibility of a socialist resurgence, if capitalism’s stock starts going down again? A: Yeah, I think that’s a definite possibility. Q: How likely would it be that a revived anti-capitalist radicalism would take on the old Marxist or Leninist garb, instead of a Green or populist or left-anarchist face? A: I think that will vary from country to country, depending on how well the various groups that see themselves as Leninist have survived. In Britain, the largest groups to the left of Labor are in fact quite influenced by one form or another of Trotskyism. We even have a Trotskyist member of the Scottish Parliament, Tommy Sheridan, who’s actually quite popular. He is the member of the Scottish Parliament for the Scottish Socialist Party, which is capable of contesting elections at least." Where I disagree with a lot of libertarian rhetoric is the assumption that socialism is finished. Whether it’s a good or bad thing, I don’t think it’s finished at all. I also don’t think that the questions that gave rise to the socialist movement in the first place have gone away. Q: What are the most pressing of those? A: I suppose the most urgent one is the question of war. You get this glib libertarian argument that war has nothing to do with capita

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      Interesting. I'm a fan of Heinlein and his political thoughts more than Macleod (from what I've read in these articles). I like the gov't idea in Heinlein's "Starship Troopers", although it may be a little to militarist. It does make sense to me though. From your past posting and this, is it safe to assume you're a left-leaning libertarian?

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        Interesting. I'm a fan of Heinlein and his political thoughts more than Macleod (from what I've read in these articles). I like the gov't idea in Heinlein's "Starship Troopers", although it may be a little to militarist. It does make sense to me though. From your past posting and this, is it safe to assume you're a left-leaning libertarian?

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        Jason Henderson wrote: From your past posting and this, is it safe to assume you're a left-leaning libertarian? I think it is:-O:-D But as far as picking a Political Party I am learning and might agree more with the Constitution Party. I 100% agree with this answer by MacLeod: "I think definitely more libertarian than socialist. I’m not entirely convinced on the question of whether a non-market economy is viable or not, but I haven’t seen new evidence that it is. All the obvious problems of socialism that were raised in the 19th century by everybody from Bakunin to John Stuart Mill, Herbert Spencer, and so on–you can read all of these, and they all seem astonishingly prescient. Where I disagree with a lot of libertarian rhetoric is the assumption that socialism is finished. Whether it’s a good or bad thing, I don’t think it’s finished at all. I also don’t think that the questions that gave rise to the socialist movement in the first place have gone away." Later,
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          Jason Henderson wrote: From your past posting and this, is it safe to assume you're a left-leaning libertarian? I think it is:-O:-D But as far as picking a Political Party I am learning and might agree more with the Constitution Party. I 100% agree with this answer by MacLeod: "I think definitely more libertarian than socialist. I’m not entirely convinced on the question of whether a non-market economy is viable or not, but I haven’t seen new evidence that it is. All the obvious problems of socialism that were raised in the 19th century by everybody from Bakunin to John Stuart Mill, Herbert Spencer, and so on–you can read all of these, and they all seem astonishingly prescient. Where I disagree with a lot of libertarian rhetoric is the assumption that socialism is finished. Whether it’s a good or bad thing, I don’t think it’s finished at all. I also don’t think that the questions that gave rise to the socialist movement in the first place have gone away." Later,
          JoeSox
          www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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          My idea of a utopian society is a very limited government, with people helping each other, sharing everything, not because they have to but because they want to. I guess thats why they call it Utopian, 'cause it will never happen.

          Jason Henderson
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