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  • C C P User 3

    I have been told that this exists. I have never seen it. I may not be telling the truth here; I don't know. Does there exist, in a car for sale today (new car, in the USA) a system whereby... - a matrix of cameras outside the car takes real time video - a microprocessor amalgamates the matrix of images - The driver can see a 3-D representation on the dashboard - The representation accurately displays everything on every side of the car ... and I don't know where to put the question mark. This includes highway speeds as well as turtle speeds for tight parking That's what I'm trying to find. Software (okay, firmware, I don't care) which can assimilate multiple video cameras and create a virtual 3-D image (on a 2-D screen) of what's going on; preferably which can be saved to disk. Again; I was told that this exists. I am frequently told things that are not true. (Oooops,,,, I meant, "frequently present at futuristic marketing projections") Does it exist ? Can someone point me to something I can watch ?

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    PIEBALDconsult
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      I have been told that this exists. I have never seen it. I may not be telling the truth here; I don't know. Does there exist, in a car for sale today (new car, in the USA) a system whereby... - a matrix of cameras outside the car takes real time video - a microprocessor amalgamates the matrix of images - The driver can see a 3-D representation on the dashboard - The representation accurately displays everything on every side of the car ... and I don't know where to put the question mark. This includes highway speeds as well as turtle speeds for tight parking That's what I'm trying to find. Software (okay, firmware, I don't care) which can assimilate multiple video cameras and create a virtual 3-D image (on a 2-D screen) of what's going on; preferably which can be saved to disk. Again; I was told that this exists. I am frequently told things that are not true. (Oooops,,,, I meant, "frequently present at futuristic marketing projections") Does it exist ? Can someone point me to something I can watch ?

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      Amarnath S
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      C-P-User-3 wrote:

      Can someone point me to something I can watch ?

      Some recent James Bond movie? Am old - I consider anything after Roger Moore as 'recent'.

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        I have been told that this exists. I have never seen it. I may not be telling the truth here; I don't know. Does there exist, in a car for sale today (new car, in the USA) a system whereby... - a matrix of cameras outside the car takes real time video - a microprocessor amalgamates the matrix of images - The driver can see a 3-D representation on the dashboard - The representation accurately displays everything on every side of the car ... and I don't know where to put the question mark. This includes highway speeds as well as turtle speeds for tight parking That's what I'm trying to find. Software (okay, firmware, I don't care) which can assimilate multiple video cameras and create a virtual 3-D image (on a 2-D screen) of what's going on; preferably which can be saved to disk. Again; I was told that this exists. I am frequently told things that are not true. (Oooops,,,, I meant, "frequently present at futuristic marketing projections") Does it exist ? Can someone point me to something I can watch ?

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        Lost User
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        Essentially this sounds like a 3D scanner. Some years ago I knew two promising young game developers who were trying to hack together a program like what you describe. Their real problems were the following: - Inadequate drivers for the cameras, resulting in problems to read input from more than one camera at a time. - The camera setup had to be calibrated by scanning a cardboard sign with an exact test picture. This calibration got more complicated with every additional camera. - The software only scanned the geometry of an object by identifying the same point with at least two cameras and then triangulating the position of the point. Each pair of cameras produced only a partial mesh of the scanned object. These meshes would not automatically be joined to a single complete mesh. There would be overlapping areas or gaps in places where no camera pair could look. All that had to be done manually in some 3D editor. - Lighting and shiny or reflective surfaces could cause errors in the meshes which would also have to be corrected manually. - Textures for the mesh were not scanned. Scanning a texture for a single mesh can probably be done, but only at the resolution of the camera image or less. Zooming in on the 3D object would quickly become a mess of blocky texels. Just like the partial meshes, unifying those textures to a single one would be a hell of an efford. So, yes, it's possible that something exists that overcomes those problems of this hack of open source projects, but I would expect a nice price tag.

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        • C C P User 3

          I have been told that this exists. I have never seen it. I may not be telling the truth here; I don't know. Does there exist, in a car for sale today (new car, in the USA) a system whereby... - a matrix of cameras outside the car takes real time video - a microprocessor amalgamates the matrix of images - The driver can see a 3-D representation on the dashboard - The representation accurately displays everything on every side of the car ... and I don't know where to put the question mark. This includes highway speeds as well as turtle speeds for tight parking That's what I'm trying to find. Software (okay, firmware, I don't care) which can assimilate multiple video cameras and create a virtual 3-D image (on a 2-D screen) of what's going on; preferably which can be saved to disk. Again; I was told that this exists. I am frequently told things that are not true. (Oooops,,,, I meant, "frequently present at futuristic marketing projections") Does it exist ? Can someone point me to something I can watch ?

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          Valery Possoz
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          In the UK there's the Land Rover 360 Camera System. It's pretty close to what you describe. Not sure if it's available in the US.

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            I have been told that this exists. I have never seen it. I may not be telling the truth here; I don't know. Does there exist, in a car for sale today (new car, in the USA) a system whereby... - a matrix of cameras outside the car takes real time video - a microprocessor amalgamates the matrix of images - The driver can see a 3-D representation on the dashboard - The representation accurately displays everything on every side of the car ... and I don't know where to put the question mark. This includes highway speeds as well as turtle speeds for tight parking That's what I'm trying to find. Software (okay, firmware, I don't care) which can assimilate multiple video cameras and create a virtual 3-D image (on a 2-D screen) of what's going on; preferably which can be saved to disk. Again; I was told that this exists. I am frequently told things that are not true. (Oooops,,,, I meant, "frequently present at futuristic marketing projections") Does it exist ? Can someone point me to something I can watch ?

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            Marco Bertschi
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            ... is most likely the term you're looking for. Video[^] (Admitted it Looks like a futuristic Marketing projection) Article[^] Another Video[^]

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              I have been told that this exists. I have never seen it. I may not be telling the truth here; I don't know. Does there exist, in a car for sale today (new car, in the USA) a system whereby... - a matrix of cameras outside the car takes real time video - a microprocessor amalgamates the matrix of images - The driver can see a 3-D representation on the dashboard - The representation accurately displays everything on every side of the car ... and I don't know where to put the question mark. This includes highway speeds as well as turtle speeds for tight parking That's what I'm trying to find. Software (okay, firmware, I don't care) which can assimilate multiple video cameras and create a virtual 3-D image (on a 2-D screen) of what's going on; preferably which can be saved to disk. Again; I was told that this exists. I am frequently told things that are not true. (Oooops,,,, I meant, "frequently present at futuristic marketing projections") Does it exist ? Can someone point me to something I can watch ?

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              Rage
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              Yes, it exists. I am in the car industry, and we have a complete department developing this. Mass production for high class segment in 2020.

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                I have been told that this exists. I have never seen it. I may not be telling the truth here; I don't know. Does there exist, in a car for sale today (new car, in the USA) a system whereby... - a matrix of cameras outside the car takes real time video - a microprocessor amalgamates the matrix of images - The driver can see a 3-D representation on the dashboard - The representation accurately displays everything on every side of the car ... and I don't know where to put the question mark. This includes highway speeds as well as turtle speeds for tight parking That's what I'm trying to find. Software (okay, firmware, I don't care) which can assimilate multiple video cameras and create a virtual 3-D image (on a 2-D screen) of what's going on; preferably which can be saved to disk. Again; I was told that this exists. I am frequently told things that are not true. (Oooops,,,, I meant, "frequently present at futuristic marketing projections") Does it exist ? Can someone point me to something I can watch ?

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                Duncan Edwards Jones
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                C-P-User-3 wrote:

                The driver can see a 3-D representation on the dashboard

                This part would not be legal. Other than that your basically describing the Google streetview cars.

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                • R Rage

                  Yes, it exists. I am in the car industry, and we have a complete department developing this. Mass production for high class segment in 2020.

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                  Marco Bertschi
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                  Is there any more Information available or does it run as Company secret to be revealed in 2020?

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                    C-P-User-3 wrote:

                    The driver can see a 3-D representation on the dashboard

                    This part would not be legal. Other than that your basically describing the Google streetview cars.

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                    Marco Bertschi
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                    I'd go for "Depends on the Country". Especially given that there are HUD[^] Displays for cars.

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                    • M Marco Bertschi

                      Is there any more Information available or does it run as Company secret to be revealed in 2020?

                      "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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                      • M Marco Bertschi

                        Is there any more Information available or does it run as Company secret to be revealed in 2020?

                        "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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                        Rage
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                        Depending on how the development is going, I do not think you will "officialy" hear about it before two or three years. I have not seen it live, but the movies and screenshots are quite impressive. As an example of how long it may take, I have already driven : - in 1999, a truck with a joystick instead of the steering wheel (X by wire), and you had the possibility to switch on a mode so that you could "pilot" the trailer for parking in reverse gear (the software would then interprete your moves and monoeuvre the puller so that the trailer would follow your directions. Crazy thing !!). - in 2002, a car that you could leave at the entrance of a parking silo, and that would find by itself a parking spot and park there. These are systems that are still not known from a lot of people. Here the limit is the law, not the technology.

                        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                          Depending on how the development is going, I do not think you will "officialy" hear about it before two or three years. I have not seen it live, but the movies and screenshots are quite impressive. As an example of how long it may take, I have already driven : - in 1999, a truck with a joystick instead of the steering wheel (X by wire), and you had the possibility to switch on a mode so that you could "pilot" the trailer for parking in reverse gear (the software would then interprete your moves and monoeuvre the puller so that the trailer would follow your directions. Crazy thing !!). - in 2002, a car that you could leave at the entrance of a parking silo, and that would find by itself a parking spot and park there. These are systems that are still not known from a lot of people. Here the limit is the law, not the technology.

                          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                          Richard Deeming
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                          Rage wrote:

                          a car that you could leave at the entrance of a parking silo, and that would find by itself a parking spot and park there.

                          I have enough trouble remembering where I've parked when I've parked; if I've left the car to park itself, I'll never find it again! :rolleyes:


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                            Yes, it exists. I am in the car industry, and we have a complete department developing this. Mass production for high class segment in 2020.

                            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                            C P User 3
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                            Am I on the right track with THIS[^] page ? I found it, thanks to my improved vocabulary which comes from CodeProject. THIS PICTURE[^] is approximately (if not exactly) what was described to me.

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                            • V Valery Possoz

                              In the UK there's the Land Rover 360 Camera System. It's pretty close to what you describe. Not sure if it's available in the US.

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                              Thanks for the suggestion. Close, but hot the Three-Dimensional Image[^] which was described to me. Still don't know if I found the real thing or not.

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                              • M Marco Bertschi

                                ... is most likely the term you're looking for. Video[^] (Admitted it Looks like a futuristic Marketing projection) Article[^] Another Video[^]

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                                First video: Wow, amazing Second video: unbelievable I REALLY want to know how it can look ahead and see between the two cars on the right.

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