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  • D Doug Goulden

    Thomas George wrote: But, has the moral compass gone so low that anything that goes wrong has to be justified with what Saddam does I didn't justify the fact that the market was bombed, I merely pointed out that the explosion could have been caused just as easily by anti aircraft fire. I could point out that there are some people who think that Saddam would do things to his own population to use as propoganda. I don't know that that is what happened, and the reality is that the people who died are just as dead either way. But it has been reported widely that he has had soldiers with 3rd infantry uniforms kill Iraqis who had intended to surrender. Thomas George wrote: Moral: If you are in a dictatorship, live somewhere far from where the dictator lives Thats a no kidding. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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    I mean that you guys go waaaaaay defensive at the slighest propaganda. But, some people genuinely hurt when people dies, and they may vent their feelings. IMO, it is better not to respond and just understand that whoever did it, these people are gone, and just share the grief. As a military strategy, Saddam will have to offer something in return for loyalty, to his people. He chooses to offer their lives itself, probably the best motivator. As I read in another post here, Saddam's son tried to use the same to win olympic medals. Despite whatever the US political propaganda says, they will end up killing many more civilians in this war. But, IMO, it will be because there is no other option to win this war. The more I read about urban warfare, the more I see the battle for Baghdad being a huge civilian graveyard. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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      I mean that you guys go waaaaaay defensive at the slighest propaganda. But, some people genuinely hurt when people dies, and they may vent their feelings. IMO, it is better not to respond and just understand that whoever did it, these people are gone, and just share the grief. As a military strategy, Saddam will have to offer something in return for loyalty, to his people. He chooses to offer their lives itself, probably the best motivator. As I read in another post here, Saddam's son tried to use the same to win olympic medals. Despite whatever the US political propaganda says, they will end up killing many more civilians in this war. But, IMO, it will be because there is no other option to win this war. The more I read about urban warfare, the more I see the battle for Baghdad being a huge civilian graveyard. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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      Thomas George wrote: The more I read about urban warfare, the more I see the battle for Baghdad being a huge civilian graveyard There is no way that Baghdad is going to be taken without a lot casualties unless Saddam and the Baath party surrender, and that isn't going to happen. I have a feeling that before it is all over, lots of innocents will die. Unfortuantly at this point the only thing we can do is keep on. If the US and the UK were to withdraw or allow a ceasefire in which Saddam stayed in power, it would be worse than if we had not fought at all. Its going to get interesting in a very sad and sick kind of way ...:( Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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      • C Chris Austin

        Maybe they can surround the city and blast it with Celine Dion or Spice Girls music. I know I would surrender after an hour or so. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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        Daniel Ferguson
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        Actually, the US military did this to the Vatican Consulate in Panama while trying to 'arrest' Manuel Norriega in the 80s.

        "Pretending to guide me, you led me astray, And I don't want to fall into your kind of ways." "Melt", Front 242

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        • D Daniel Ferguson

          Actually, the US military did this to the Vatican Consulate in Panama while trying to 'arrest' Manuel Norriega in the 80s.

          "Pretending to guide me, you led me astray, And I don't want to fall into your kind of ways." "Melt", Front 242

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          I rember, but wasn't the music Motley Crew or Thre Scropions? I rember (probably incorrectly) that it was a hair band. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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          • D Daniel Ferguson

            Actually, the US military did this to the Vatican Consulate in Panama while trying to 'arrest' Manuel Norriega in the 80s.

            "Pretending to guide me, you led me astray, And I don't want to fall into your kind of ways." "Melt", Front 242

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            Was Celine Dion singing in the 80s too? If so, you guys have endured too long :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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            • C Chris Austin

              Maybe they can surround the city and blast it with Celine Dion or Spice Girls music. I know I would surrender after an hour or so. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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              Chris Austin wrote: Celine Dion or Spice Girls Celine is nice. Spice Girls are nice to watch. :) -- Tune your mind, reach inside, peel away Touch, Taste, Feel, Saturation

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                I rember, but wasn't the music Motley Crew or Thre Scropions? I rember (probably incorrectly) that it was a hair band. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                Chris Austin wrote: but wasn't the music Motley Crew or Thre Scropions? I rember (probably incorrectly) that it was a hair band. what's wrong with hair bands?? :rolleyes: - Nitron


                "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  Chris Austin wrote: Celine Dion or Spice Girls Celine is nice. Spice Girls are nice to watch. :) -- Tune your mind, reach inside, peel away Touch, Taste, Feel, Saturation

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                  Chris Austin
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                  They might be nice but their music is cheezy. edit: Damn! my spelling and touch typing is going to hell..... how did I get migh to be moth...shit Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                    Chris Austin wrote: but wasn't the music Motley Crew or Thre Scropions? I rember (probably incorrectly) that it was a hair band. what's wrong with hair bands?? :rolleyes: - Nitron


                    "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                    Chris Austin
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                    nothing, but I think I have outgrown them. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                    • C Chris Austin

                      I rember, but wasn't the music Motley Crew or Thre Scropions? I rember (probably incorrectly) that it was a hair band. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                      I don't remember what music they played, I just rememeber being amused when the host of a CBC radio program described it as "Panama City's Hard Rock Cafe."

                      "Pretending to guide me, you led me astray, And I don't want to fall into your kind of ways." "Melt", Front 242

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