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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I hate to say this - because it's almost certainly a hideous generalisation - but it would seem from QA that this is what is happening: the people coming "into the industry" are either not being taught to think, or not being encouraged to think. And at the risk of being labelled a closet racist a certain cultural group does appear to stand out in this regard. Certainly, the number of posters we are getting that expect any code they find to work immediately without any changes seems to be increasing. Almost as if the increase in IC processing power is being balanced by a decrease in human processing power! :laugh: This is probably not the case, just that the number of people being "taught" IT is increasing, and the ones that can or do try to think don't post questions!

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    Lost User
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    Perhaps it reflects the direction the industry is taking: just crank out useless "business apps" coded to spec, as fast as possible and as cheaply as possible. No thinking. Just coding. No programmers either, just codemonkeys, they're cheaper. The industry needs monkeys, so monkeys are getting trained.

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    • F Fredrik Bornander

      Are you saying that the teacher is the one who must try harder?

      Try Grapple for Android, it has a naked pixel guy in it! Also, loads of blood and some snakes.

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      OriginalGriff
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      Partly, yes - I think I am. And the other part is a general impression that being lazy and careless is part of adolescence...and probably always has been :sigh: But when I was young, it was easier to work things out for myself than go to the library, try and find the right book, find the actual information, and read it. Now you can just google, and that does mean that it's a lot easier to try once, give up looking, then try to get someone else to do it for you. :laugh:

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        I hate to say this - because it's almost certainly a hideous generalisation - but it would seem from QA that this is what is happening: the people coming "into the industry" are either not being taught to think, or not being encouraged to think. And at the risk of being labelled a closet racist a certain cultural group does appear to stand out in this regard. Certainly, the number of posters we are getting that expect any code they find to work immediately without any changes seems to be increasing. Almost as if the increase in IC processing power is being balanced by a decrease in human processing power! :laugh: This is probably not the case, just that the number of people being "taught" IT is increasing, and the ones that can or do try to think don't post questions!

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        glennPattonWork3
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        Quote:

        And at the risk of being labelled a closet racist a certain cultural group does appear to stand out in this regard.

        Mind you, I don't think it cultural from my experience each culture has it's own set that shouldn't be allowed near a PC!

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          Perhaps it reflects the direction the industry is taking: just crank out useless "business apps" coded to spec, as fast as possible and as cheaply as possible. No thinking. Just coding. No programmers either, just codemonkeys, they're cheaper. The industry needs monkeys, so monkeys are getting trained.

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          glennPattonWork3
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          Ooooh Dear!, I can see problems down the line...

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I hate to say this - because it's almost certainly a hideous generalisation - but it would seem from QA that this is what is happening: the people coming "into the industry" are either not being taught to think, or not being encouraged to think. And at the risk of being labelled a closet racist a certain cultural group does appear to stand out in this regard. Certainly, the number of posters we are getting that expect any code they find to work immediately without any changes seems to be increasing. Almost as if the increase in IC processing power is being balanced by a decrease in human processing power! :laugh: This is probably not the case, just that the number of people being "taught" IT is increasing, and the ones that can or do try to think don't post questions!

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            Nelek
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            I can partialy confirm your "fear"... I am travelling to that part of the world often and in my experience is a quite extended "setting" over there (sadly I am very tempted to say "standard" instead of "quite extended")

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              I'm sure you are a good teacher, and want only the best for your students, but...if you sent them all here with a list of stupid tasks (you know the ones "A group of pirates have...", "ranesh has discovered the power of compounding...", "A robot must move...") then you are an idiot, and you deserve to be beaten with a large stick until you wish I had never been born. If you didn't send them here, then you need to control your students - because it would seem that not even one of them has bothered to try and do it themselves. Fail the lot. Frankly, I'm sick of seeing the same assignments being pasted up here...

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              Sander Rossel
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              Dear sir, Please provide code for JavaScript prototype example. I'd post that with all the grammar and spelling errors like 'plz' and 'exmaple', but I'm trying to keep the joke civilized :D

              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                Dear sir, Please provide code for JavaScript prototype example. I'd post that with all the grammar and spelling errors like 'plz' and 'exmaple', but I'm trying to keep the joke civilized :D

                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                OriginalGriff
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                Dear Sir, Plz SND CODZZZZ URGNTZZZZ!!!!!! Would have done! :laugh:

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Dear Sir, Plz SND CODZZZZ URGNTZZZZ!!!!!! Would have done! :laugh:

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  Great, now you've ruined my weekend... X|

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    I'm sure you are a good teacher, and want only the best for your students, but...if you sent them all here with a list of stupid tasks (you know the ones "A group of pirates have...", "ranesh has discovered the power of compounding...", "A robot must move...") then you are an idiot, and you deserve to be beaten with a large stick until you wish I had never been born. If you didn't send them here, then you need to control your students - because it would seem that not even one of them has bothered to try and do it themselves. Fail the lot. Frankly, I'm sick of seeing the same assignments being pasted up here...

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    Those are some spectacularly bad assignments. While certainly I wouldn't blame the teacher for their being posted here, there was that one teacher who instructed his students to post their solutions as articles here... :mad: Anyway, here are some thoughts on why a teacher might post assignments here: 0) To see what reception such posts receive here -- certainly a teacher would be pleased to see that "we will not do your homework for you". 1) To see what code "experienced professionals" will produce, to use as a benchmark for what gets turned in. 2) To have code to compare against to see if a student simply copied-and-pasted the best answer available. However, I think last night's barrage may have simply been college kids having a little fun. Like making crank calls.

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                    • G glennPattonWork3

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                      And at the risk of being labelled a closet racist a certain cultural group does appear to stand out in this regard.

                      Mind you, I don't think it cultural from my experience each culture has it's own set that shouldn't be allowed near a PC!

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                      Electroduck
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                      That is why smartphones are so successful!

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        I'm sure you are a good teacher, and want only the best for your students, but...if you sent them all here with a list of stupid tasks (you know the ones "A group of pirates have...", "ranesh has discovered the power of compounding...", "A robot must move...") then you are an idiot, and you deserve to be beaten with a large stick until you wish I had never been born. If you didn't send them here, then you need to control your students - because it would seem that not even one of them has bothered to try and do it themselves. Fail the lot. Frankly, I'm sick of seeing the same assignments being pasted up here...

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        bryce
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                        dude - take the opportunity to troll the smeg out of them For example - i like to point them in the direction of Christan Graus bryce

                        MCAD ---

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