Enough Is Too Much: Android, I liked Kit Kat 4.4- Endless upgrades
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Okay, so Google has announced Marshmallow v6 or whatever. At this point, innovation almost feels like flailing. You see, I really liked v4.4 kit kat. It worked great, did everything I wanted and still ran quite well on my older device. Also, remember, the 80 / 20 rule applies here. 80% of the time you only use 20% of the functionality. 80% of the people only use 20% of the functionality. It all feels like a way to make perfectly fine hardware obsolete.
Hello, Larry, Sergey... I don't expect my phone to be my desktop. Nor do I want it to be.
All in the name of innovation. Whatever.
So, you are saying they should not release/work on new versions? :confused: You know that upgrade / not to upgrade is in your hands, then why should the company stop developing new things? They have given you the option to stick with the old stuff if you want.
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So, you are saying they should not release/work on new versions? :confused: You know that upgrade / not to upgrade is in your hands, then why should the company stop developing new things? They have given you the option to stick with the old stuff if you want.
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Right. I'm saying halt all forward progress. No. I'm just saying, maybe they could make the existing parts more secure but stop doing pretty stuff that makes my hardware slower and more obsolete. For example, Google Hangouts just updated and it really slowed down on my phone running 4.1 What are the new features of Marshmallow, anyway... Probably more stuff to share my data without me knowing. ;P
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Okay, so Google has announced Marshmallow v6 or whatever. At this point, innovation almost feels like flailing. You see, I really liked v4.4 kit kat. It worked great, did everything I wanted and still ran quite well on my older device. Also, remember, the 80 / 20 rule applies here. 80% of the time you only use 20% of the functionality. 80% of the people only use 20% of the functionality. It all feels like a way to make perfectly fine hardware obsolete.
Hello, Larry, Sergey... I don't expect my phone to be my desktop. Nor do I want it to be.
All in the name of innovation. Whatever.
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Is it becoming a chubby bunny[^]? Edit: fixed link
Link fail, but I searched wikipedia, beacuse I am resilient and not easily defeated. :) That's a funny comparison. It is chubby bunny : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chubby_Bunny[^]
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Link fail, but I searched wikipedia, beacuse I am resilient and not easily defeated. :) That's a funny comparison. It is chubby bunny : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chubby_Bunny[^]
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Okay, so Google has announced Marshmallow v6 or whatever. At this point, innovation almost feels like flailing. You see, I really liked v4.4 kit kat. It worked great, did everything I wanted and still ran quite well on my older device. Also, remember, the 80 / 20 rule applies here. 80% of the time you only use 20% of the functionality. 80% of the people only use 20% of the functionality. It all feels like a way to make perfectly fine hardware obsolete.
Hello, Larry, Sergey... I don't expect my phone to be my desktop. Nor do I want it to be.
All in the name of innovation. Whatever.
Well, just imagine trying to run W10 on a 4Mhz 8086. Marc
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Right. I'm saying halt all forward progress. No. I'm just saying, maybe they could make the existing parts more secure but stop doing pretty stuff that makes my hardware slower and more obsolete. For example, Google Hangouts just updated and it really slowed down on my phone running 4.1 What are the new features of Marshmallow, anyway... Probably more stuff to share my data without me knowing. ;P
newton.saber wrote:
it really slowed down on my phone running 4.1
Wait... in the OP you said you really liked 4.4, yet now you're running 4.1? Since 4.1 is 3+ years old is it really so surprising that brand new apps aren't optimized for it?
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Well, just imagine trying to run W10 on a 4Mhz 8086. Marc
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It should work. :)
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Right. I'm saying halt all forward progress. No. I'm just saying, maybe they could make the existing parts more secure but stop doing pretty stuff that makes my hardware slower and more obsolete. For example, Google Hangouts just updated and it really slowed down on my phone running 4.1 What are the new features of Marshmallow, anyway... Probably more stuff to share my data without me knowing. ;P
Security isn't profitable, but new features are. That's the way lots of companies think today. X|
Kitty at my foot and I waAAAant to touch it...
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Is it becoming a chubby bunny[^]? Edit: fixed link
:-D Nice idea. You'll need a couple a drinks to go along with that game.
Kitty at my foot and I waAAAant to touch it...
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newton.saber wrote:
it really slowed down on my phone running 4.1
Wait... in the OP you said you really liked 4.4, yet now you're running 4.1? Since 4.1 is 3+ years old is it really so surprising that brand new apps aren't optimized for it?
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
Multiple droid devices. Phone 4.1 Other phone 4.4 Nexus 7 4.4.x Barnes & Noble Nook 4.x?? Here's an interesting? thing: You can buy a pay-as-you-go droid phone, never even install the SIM (phone card) and use it on wireless like a device. Pick up this one for $19.95 at Walmart store: Alcatel C1 at amazon -over priced there.[^] EDIT:
Mike Mullikin wrote:
is it really so surprising that brand new apps aren't optimized for it
That's my point though. the update was pushed to me. Yes, I can manage it and all. I'm thinking that the best thing that computer devices can do is...wait for it... wait... WORK! Just plain and simple work without me babysitting them. :D The next time you go to use your hammer to hang a picture on the wall and you cannot swing the thing because it has been updated and your version of nails (1.034.3.3) are incorrect, then you'll get what I mean. :)
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Security isn't profitable, but new features are. That's the way lots of companies think today. X|
Kitty at my foot and I waAAAant to touch it...
Power Puff Boy wrote:
profitable, but new features are
You are right. They add features to entice iPhone users over. Which ayna gonna happun. (The feature that causes someone to buy an Android over an iPhone: LOWER PRICE. :) ) But then, they make people who've been committed to the brand work to keep their functionality working right. A bit annoying. Also, you are right about the security thing.
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Multiple droid devices. Phone 4.1 Other phone 4.4 Nexus 7 4.4.x Barnes & Noble Nook 4.x?? Here's an interesting? thing: You can buy a pay-as-you-go droid phone, never even install the SIM (phone card) and use it on wireless like a device. Pick up this one for $19.95 at Walmart store: Alcatel C1 at amazon -over priced there.[^] EDIT:
Mike Mullikin wrote:
is it really so surprising that brand new apps aren't optimized for it
That's my point though. the update was pushed to me. Yes, I can manage it and all. I'm thinking that the best thing that computer devices can do is...wait for it... wait... WORK! Just plain and simple work without me babysitting them. :D The next time you go to use your hammer to hang a picture on the wall and you cannot swing the thing because it has been updated and your version of nails (1.034.3.3) are incorrect, then you'll get what I mean. :)
newton.saber wrote:
Here's an interesting? thing: You can buy a pay-as-you-go droid phone,
No thanks. I'm not an Android user...
newton.saber wrote:
I'm thinking that the best thing that computer devices can do is...wait for it... wait... WORK!
The mobile market is not the desktop market - time to upgrade your thought process and feelings. ;P Seriously: The desktop market is a bit more mature. In the early days the software drove the hardware (which we are seeing today in mobile) but in the last 7-10 years the hardware has caught up and no new killer apps emerged that demand hardware improvements. Seems like most hardware evolution these days is to reduce size and power requirements. It will take mobile some time to get to the same place.
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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newton.saber wrote:
Here's an interesting? thing: You can buy a pay-as-you-go droid phone,
No thanks. I'm not an Android user...
newton.saber wrote:
I'm thinking that the best thing that computer devices can do is...wait for it... wait... WORK!
The mobile market is not the desktop market - time to upgrade your thought process and feelings. ;P Seriously: The desktop market is a bit more mature. In the early days the software drove the hardware (which we are seeing today in mobile) but in the last 7-10 years the hardware has caught up and no new killer apps emerged that demand hardware improvements. Seems like most hardware evolution these days is to reduce size and power requirements. It will take mobile some time to get to the same place.
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
time to upgrade your thought process and feelings.
LOL! I'm sure you are right about that. However, isn't it interesting that the "desktop market" (which is Windows) is now chasing donw this same idea with constant (uncontrolled) updates via WINDOWS 10? And, I'm not saying that we shouldn't have updates, I'm just saying OS updates should be more rare and more controlled.
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
time to upgrade your thought process and feelings.
LOL! I'm sure you are right about that. However, isn't it interesting that the "desktop market" (which is Windows) is now chasing donw this same idea with constant (uncontrolled) updates via WINDOWS 10? And, I'm not saying that we shouldn't have updates, I'm just saying OS updates should be more rare and more controlled.
newton.saber wrote:
this same idea with constant (uncontrolled) updates via WINDOWS 10?
Yeah, Microsoft is taking quite a gamble IMHO. It will be interesting to see how it works out. I think I'll sit on the sidelines (with Windows 7) for as long as possible to see what happens.
newton.saber wrote:
And, I'm not saying that we shouldn't have updates, I'm just saying OS updates should be more rare and more controlled.
Yeah, it seems Google and Apple are doing the once a year "major" update thing. Sadly, it waters down what "major" really means. How much can you really change in one year? Plus it takes talent away from streamlining and perfecting the "old" OS. Its REALLY problematic in the Android world due to the plethora of hardware, customization, carrier mods, etc...
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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Power Puff Boy wrote:
profitable, but new features are
You are right. They add features to entice iPhone users over. Which ayna gonna happun. (The feature that causes someone to buy an Android over an iPhone: LOWER PRICE. :) ) But then, they make people who've been committed to the brand work to keep their functionality working right. A bit annoying. Also, you are right about the security thing.
newton.saber wrote:
Also, you are right about the security thing.
Sometimes I just hate it when I'm right :sigh:
Kitty at my foot and I waAAAant to touch it...