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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    I don't know any Terry Pratchett story. Judging from all of the comments on CP he's pretty great and he has written A LOT. I know they made some Discworld games[^] a long time ago (read about it at the time) and there's a mini series[^], but why isn't he more popular? As in LOTR, HP or GoT popular? I rarely see any of his work in the Netherlands, while other fantasy, like the ones mentioned above and, to lesser extent, The Sword Of Truth (Laws Of Magic in Dutch) by Terry Goodkind and The Farseer by Robin Hobb are pretty popular in bookstores. I don't really read novels, so I'm really waiting for a Discworld movie. Is the mini series any good?

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    Sander Rossel wrote:

    I rarely see any of his work in the Netherlands

    I've received a few as a gift, should be available on Bol.

    Sander Rossel wrote:

    I don't really read novels

    Read one of the books first, and then post your new opinion :)

    Sander Rossel wrote:

    I'm really waiting for a Discworld movie. Is the mini series any good?

    What mini-series? I did enjoy the adventure-games[^], but those are a lot more fun if you actually read the books.

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Wow, you found one Dutch amateur site that mentions Terry Pratchett's death... I wouldn't call that popular :doh:

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      :rolleyes: I was attempting to draw your attention to the existence of a Dutch Discworld Convention. If this is the level of your observation powers perhaps your failure to notice PTerry on sale is just that?

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        ...So here it is at last: The Shepherd's Crown[^] The final, last ever, never to be written about again, Discworld novel is finally out. I don't honestly know if I want to read it. If I don't, I can anticipate a "new" Discworld book for a long, long time. And perhaps that's a more fitting tribute to Sir Pterry than just keeping him in the Clacks Overhead Chrome extension. But if I don't, I'll miss out on (hopefully) his finest work. Does that make any sense?

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        I am in the same dilema. Wants it and dont's at the same time. :sigh:

        veni bibi saltavi

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          I don't think I could do that - not unless there was a big sign on the second-to-last-page saying "the next one is the last" - but I do remember the final lines of David Eddings "The Seeress of Kell": "And so, my children, the time has come to close the book. There will be other days, and other stories, but this tale is finished." And then he went on to write two more... :sigh: Not sure if I want to see that in a Pterry book, but it's kinda fitting.

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          It wouldn't surprise me to learn in future years that there are notes for one or two further books but I wouldn't want them to be diluted by anyone else's hand. This book has several themes that were under development by all accounts.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I don't think I could do that - not unless there was a big sign on the second-to-last-page saying "the next one is the last" - but I do remember the final lines of David Eddings "The Seeress of Kell": "And so, my children, the time has come to close the book. There will be other days, and other stories, but this tale is finished." And then he went on to write two more... :sigh: Not sure if I want to see that in a Pterry book, but it's kinda fitting.

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            There are a few unfinished manuscripts in various states, but according to Rhianna, who now is the keeper of the flame, she will not 'in the foreseeable future' do anything with them and that we should consider all that has been published as canon.

            veni bibi saltavi

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              There are a few unfinished manuscripts in various states, but according to Rhianna, who now is the keeper of the flame, she will not 'in the foreseeable future' do anything with them and that we should consider all that has been published as canon.

              veni bibi saltavi

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              And that's a good thing. They wouldn't be Discworld, without Pterry's wry twist, even if they followed his original plan (which I doubt he ever did, except in the broad outline). Good on yer, Rhianna! You honour your father more in refusing to bow to pressure. :thumbsup:

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              • 9 9082365

                :rolleyes: I was attempting to draw your attention to the existence of a Dutch Discworld Convention. If this is the level of your observation powers perhaps your failure to notice PTerry on sale is just that?

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                Member 9082365 wrote:

                a Dutch Discworld Convention

                But how many people are attending? ;)

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                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                  I rarely see any of his work in the Netherlands

                  I've received a few as a gift, should be available on Bol.

                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                  I don't really read novels

                  Read one of the books first, and then post your new opinion :)

                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                  I'm really waiting for a Discworld movie. Is the mini series any good?

                  What mini-series? I did enjoy the adventure-games[^], but those are a lot more fun if you actually read the books.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                  should be available on Bol

                  The "Schijfwereldreeks" sounds awful, I think I just found out why it isn't more popular here! :laugh:

                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                  Read one of the books first

                  What part of "I don't really read novels" didn't you understand? ;)

                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                  What mini-series?

                  This one[^].

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

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                  Regards, Sander

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    should be available on Bol

                    The "Schijfwereldreeks" sounds awful, I think I just found out why it isn't more popular here! :laugh:

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    Read one of the books first

                    What part of "I don't really read novels" didn't you understand? ;)

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    What mini-series?

                    This one[^].

                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                    The "Schijfwereldreeks" sounds awful,

                    You read it in English ofcourse. The great masters are always read in the original language.

                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                    I think I just found out why it isn't more popular here! :laugh:

                    Combine that with the forced reading in school that prevents people from ever picking up a book again during their entire life..

                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                    What part of "I don't really read novels" didn't you understand? ;)

                    You read the Lounge.

                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                    This one[^].

                    Never seen them, and don't know whether I want to :)

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      And that's a good thing. They wouldn't be Discworld, without Pterry's wry twist, even if they followed his original plan (which I doubt he ever did, except in the broad outline). Good on yer, Rhianna! You honour your father more in refusing to bow to pressure. :thumbsup:

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                      That's not to say she won't do something with the legacy. She hinted that she may use the setting, places and maybe even characters in her later work but it would never be passed off as 'in the style of' or 'with additional material by'. Rhianna has the intellectual rites [sic], along with Lyne [Sir Pterry's widow], to do what the hell she likes with Discworld, including, but not limited to, a total re-imagination or shift forward 1,000 years. That does not mean she will. I think she will leave it ten or twenty years and when her writing has matured she'll start using it as a spring board for her own adventures. The Diske is in good hands.

                      veni bibi saltavi

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        Member 9082365 wrote:

                        a Dutch Discworld Convention

                        But how many people are attending? ;)

                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                        Regards, Sander

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                        Jorg Plate
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                        The british DiscWorld Convention 2015 has 900 members and was sold out in 2 or 3 days.

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          I am in the same dilema. Wants it and dont's at the same time. :sigh:

                          veni bibi saltavi

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                          Graham Lemon UK
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                          Having read every Discworld novel, in order of publication, right from the first, I am going to buy "Shepherd", read it (including the last page!), then put it on the bookshelf with all the others and pick up "The Colour of Magic" and start again. I believe in that way, there will always be a 'New' pTerry novel to look forward to.

                          Sometimes, it just is, OK!

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            I don't know any Terry Pratchett story. Judging from all of the comments on CP he's pretty great and he has written A LOT. I know they made some Discworld games[^] a long time ago (read about it at the time) and there's a mini series[^], but why isn't he more popular? As in LOTR, HP or GoT popular? I rarely see any of his work in the Netherlands, while other fantasy, like the ones mentioned above and, to lesser extent, The Sword Of Truth (Laws Of Magic in Dutch) by Terry Goodkind and The Farseer by Robin Hobb are pretty popular in bookstores. I don't really read novels, so I'm really waiting for a Discworld movie. Is the mini series any good?

                            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                            One reason is that Pratchett's first Discworld stories were reasonably-good play-around-with-fantasy tropes parody. As he wrote more, his writing skills skyrocketed. They also fall into an odd category- they have humor, but the characters are in serious jeopardy and the stakes are usually high. In most humor/parody we just laugh at the jokes but don't care about the characters. When people decide to give his work a try, they usually start with the first books, and wonder what all the fuss is about. If you start with one of the later books, you don't know the backstories of many of the characters. Another approach is to read one of the standalone books, like Dodger or Nation. That way you can get a better appreciation for his style and themes, and see if it's worth your time slogging through the first few novels. Or you can watch the Hogfather movie. ;)

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                            • G Graham Lemon UK

                              Having read every Discworld novel, in order of publication, right from the first, I am going to buy "Shepherd", read it (including the last page!), then put it on the bookshelf with all the others and pick up "The Colour of Magic" and start again. I believe in that way, there will always be a 'New' pTerry novel to look forward to.

                              Sometimes, it just is, OK!

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                              Paul Kemner
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                              They do seem to hold up to repeated reading. I noticed the same thing with the Fritz Lieber "Fafhrd & Grey Mouser" stories- having read them again after several decades. It's fascinating to see Lieber creating many of the tropes that Pratchett riffs on. Guilds for thieves and assassins that discourage competition? A personification of death with a quirky craftsmanlike approach to his work? A major decadent city, awash with pollution, with Ankh in its name? It's all there!

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                ...So here it is at last: The Shepherd's Crown[^] The final, last ever, never to be written about again, Discworld novel is finally out. I don't honestly know if I want to read it. If I don't, I can anticipate a "new" Discworld book for a long, long time. And perhaps that's a more fitting tribute to Sir Pterry than just keeping him in the Clacks Overhead Chrome extension. But if I don't, I'll miss out on (hopefully) his finest work. Does that make any sense?

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                                Like the reference to Pyramids. I will of course run out and buy and read the book this weekend. Thanks for the update. It is too bad the last book isn't about Rincewind. (Who knows maybe he is in there !!) It would have come full circle. I will truly miss the man and his Works. Speilberg should do a discworld movie the british efforts I have seen have not been up to par. The eight year old kid in my 66 year old head would love that. :laugh:

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  THAT WOULD BE A GOOD REASON! :D

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                                  AND A VERY IMPORTANT LESSON

                                  vuolsi così colà dove si puote ciò che si vuole, e più non dimandare --The answer to Minos and any question of "Why are we doing it this way?"

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    I don't know any Terry Pratchett story. Judging from all of the comments on CP he's pretty great and he has written A LOT. I know they made some Discworld games[^] a long time ago (read about it at the time) and there's a mini series[^], but why isn't he more popular? As in LOTR, HP or GoT popular? I rarely see any of his work in the Netherlands, while other fantasy, like the ones mentioned above and, to lesser extent, The Sword Of Truth (Laws Of Magic in Dutch) by Terry Goodkind and The Farseer by Robin Hobb are pretty popular in bookstores. I don't really read novels, so I'm really waiting for a Discworld movie. Is the mini series any good?

                                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                    Regards, Sander

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                                    Spectrum has published a lot of Pratchett's works: See e.g De boekenplank.

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                                      Spectrum has published a lot of Pratchett's works: See e.g De boekenplank.

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                                      Thanks, will look into it!

                                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                      Regards, Sander

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        I don't know any Terry Pratchett story. Judging from all of the comments on CP he's pretty great and he has written A LOT. I know they made some Discworld games[^] a long time ago (read about it at the time) and there's a mini series[^], but why isn't he more popular? As in LOTR, HP or GoT popular? I rarely see any of his work in the Netherlands, while other fantasy, like the ones mentioned above and, to lesser extent, The Sword Of Truth (Laws Of Magic in Dutch) by Terry Goodkind and The Farseer by Robin Hobb are pretty popular in bookstores. I don't really read novels, so I'm really waiting for a Discworld movie. Is the mini series any good?

                                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                        Regards, Sander

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                                        I've only read The Colour of Magic, which I enjoyed very much. My kids are much more current and one of their friends gave us this DVD - Hogfather[^], which, again, I enjoyed quite a bit. It's made for TV, so maybe under the radar. On another note, if you also appreciate Neil Gaiman, there's always Good Omens[^]

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                          should be available on Bol

                                          The "Schijfwereldreeks" sounds awful, I think I just found out why it isn't more popular here! :laugh:

                                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                          Read one of the books first

                                          What part of "I don't really read novels" didn't you understand? ;)

                                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                          What mini-series?

                                          This one[^].

                                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                          Regards, Sander

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                                          moongarden
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                                          So let me get this straight... You don't read novels. There's a novelist you've never heard of. Could the two facts be connected?

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