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Just a few more, although I read a lot and a lot of books were left out of the list. I won't start listing them here as it would go on for pages. I noticed they had the Bible but not the Koran (both of which I have read). They also left out the greatest book of all time, "Do androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" by Philip K. Dick - which is a lot deeper than it seems and was made into one of my favourite movies of all time, "Bladerunner".
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I guess it comes with the intended audience, explains the choice of the other books, or lack thereof, as well
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I concur. He added a few bits a left out a few bits but the Hobbit was still basically the same. The original book would not have made a good movie without some changes and in these times to have a movie without a major female warrior character would have brought more criticism than leaving her out - plus she was cool! I enjoyed the book a lot and enjoyed the movie(s) a lot as well. Same with LOTR - my favourite book(s) of all time; some of my favourite movies as well.
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Forogar wrote:
The original book would not have made a good movie without some changes
Yes it would, but it couldn't have been stretched into three movies.
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I didn't like the Diskworld novels when I originally read them (many years ago). Perhaps I should try them again, now that I am (slightly) more mature. Orson Scott Card's books are a good read, but with the possible exception of Ender's Game, I don't feel that they are in the running for a "100 best books" list. As for Belgarion, I'll leave the task of compiling the fantasy list to someone who is better-versed in the field.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
Orson Scott Card's books are a good read, but with the possible exception of Ender's Game
I think I might help stoking the fire. While I believe Ender's Shadow is his best book, it wouldn't have been anything without the predecessor.
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I don't take any list of that kind without Terry Pratchett seriously!
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According to the USA Library of Congress, the most influential book in America for decades (after the Bible), has been Atlas Shrugged. Why is it not on the list? Is it because the list was compiled by the BBC?
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36, which means, as I read a minimum of 100 books a year, either that I read some real rubbish or this list is too random to be representative of anything much. I'm choosing to believe the latter!
Member 9082365 wrote:
this list is too random to be representative of anything much
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You have just been Sharapova'd.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
Orson Scott Card's books are a good read, but with the possible exception of Ender's Game
I think I might help stoking the fire. While I believe Ender's Shadow is his best book, it wouldn't have been anything without the predecessor.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
I think I might help stoking the fire.
De libris non est disputandum :)
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According to the USA Library of Congress, the most influential book in America for decades (after the Bible), has been Atlas Shrugged. Why is it not on the list? Is it because the list was compiled by the BBC?
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon
Like most news organisations, the BBC tends to attract people of a certain political bent. I doubt Atlas Shrugged would be on the recommended reading list of any news organisation. There is a very good book by Thomas Sowell, Intellectuals and Society, that examines intellectuals and intellectualism. Whether or not you agree with his thesis, I think you will find it an interesting read.
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You beat me - I only read 44
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This list is plain stupid: I don't see Italo Calvino, Alessandro Manzoni, Dante Alighieri, Italo Svevo, Leonardo Sciascia, Giovanni Verga or Luigi Pirandello in any of those authors. That's just for Italian literature, because internationally I couldn't see Tolstoj, Chekhov or Erich Maria Remarque, just to name a few. Still, it names Dan Brown - ok let's put Clive Cussler in it just to raise the level :doh: EDIT: it misses all of the Epic genre, as the Odissey, Aeneid and Iliad (which I read aged 12), it misses (if I did not miss it) Edgar Allan Poe. I will not name any investigative book (only Conan Doyle is named), whreas I read almost the entire bibliography of Rex Stout, Ellery Queen and Agatha Christie. EDIT 2: There was Tolstoj, my bad. The rest is unchanged though...
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Well, I'm definitely not average - was reading at least one book a week since my 10th birthday (and I'm 41 now). Do the calcs, I can't be bothered. I've read 54 of the 100, some of those multiple times in different editions (especially the Sherlock Homes versions). But I'm definitely with the idea that the list is suspect. E.g. it lists Roald Dahl's "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". But in my mind (having read all 3) the more popular books of his would be "The Gremlins" and "Matilda" (both which has been made into films one even inspiring a whole series of films). Even "James and the Giant Peach" is at least as memorable as CatCF. And with the Charles Dickens novels it's even worse - the list includes Bleak House, David Copperfield, Great Expectations & A Christmas Carol. What? Oliver Twist didn't make the cut, but those did! And IMO if they want to include several of Charles Dickens' novels (even if they missed his most popular one), then why not rather include Lemony Snicket's (Daniel Handler) "A Series of Unfortunate Events"? And if they include only "classics", then what the Elephant got into them to exclude Edgar Allan Poe from the list? The Sherlock Holmes collection made it in, but not even a mention of any of Agatha Christie's novels - WTE? And then if they want to blazon multiple books by one writer, then why only Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit (by JRRT)? Why not also "The Children of Húrin" and "The Silmarillion". And I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they saw LoR as the entire trillogy, not just the first volume! Of course, if the books are only those from which films were made, then it makes sense. Same goes for Frank Herbert's Dune series - I hope by "Dune" they mean the entire set of novels he's written (not just the first volume - which was named Dune, but also Dune Mesiah, The Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune & Chapter-house Dune) including those his son wrote after his death to finally finish the saga (Hunters of Dune, Sandworms of Dune, Winds of Dune & Sisterhood of Dune) and include the prequels to all the great houses (The Machine Crusade, The Butlerian Jihad, House Atriedes, House Harkonnen, House Corrino, etc.). My biggest gripe however: Douglas Adams' "Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy" is in ... none of the rest (which actually comprised most of the stuff shown in the
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This list is plain stupid: I don't see Italo Calvino, Alessandro Manzoni, Dante Alighieri, Italo Svevo, Leonardo Sciascia, Giovanni Verga or Luigi Pirandello in any of those authors. That's just for Italian literature, because internationally I couldn't see Tolstoj, Chekhov or Erich Maria Remarque, just to name a few. Still, it names Dan Brown - ok let's put Clive Cussler in it just to raise the level :doh: EDIT: it misses all of the Epic genre, as the Odissey, Aeneid and Iliad (which I read aged 12), it misses (if I did not miss it) Edgar Allan Poe. I will not name any investigative book (only Conan Doyle is named), whreas I read almost the entire bibliography of Rex Stout, Ellery Queen and Agatha Christie. EDIT 2: There was Tolstoj, my bad. The rest is unchanged though...
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den2k88 wrote:
I couldn't see Tolstoj
Well, they do list his "War and Piece" as well as "Anna Karenina". But I agree - that list is not perfect. Even if they just used darts to determine which were in and which were out I'd expect a better list.
den2k88 wrote:
(only Conan Doyle is named)
Agreed ... One I cannot understand why they didn't include him (especially as the Sherlock Holmes novels were inspired by some of his): Edgar Allan Poe!
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den2k88 wrote:
I couldn't see Tolstoj
Well, they do list his "War and Piece" as well as "Anna Karenina". But I agree - that list is not perfect. Even if they just used darts to determine which were in and which were out I'd expect a better list.
den2k88 wrote:
(only Conan Doyle is named)
Agreed ... One I cannot understand why they didn't include him (especially as the Sherlock Holmes novels were inspired by some of his): Edgar Allan Poe!
Sorry I saw it NOW looking again, my phone showed me only half of the list.
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I don't take any list of that kind without Terry Pratchett seriously!
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Couldn't agree more! The only possible reason to exclude him might be because it's a list of "classics", but that's definitely not the case here: Douglas Adams, Aldus Huxley, Audrey Niffenegger, etc. But not Terry? Come on! He's head and shoulders above those - they're only worthy to be book-stands to his collection.
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Couldn't agree more! The only possible reason to exclude him might be because it's a list of "classics", but that's definitely not the case here: Douglas Adams, Aldus Huxley, Audrey Niffenegger, etc. But not Terry? Come on! He's head and shoulders above those - they're only worthy to be book-stands to his collection.
Hey, Pterry IS classic! :)
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Well, I'm definitely not average - was reading at least one book a week since my 10th birthday (and I'm 41 now). Do the calcs, I can't be bothered. I've read 54 of the 100, some of those multiple times in different editions (especially the Sherlock Homes versions). But I'm definitely with the idea that the list is suspect. E.g. it lists Roald Dahl's "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". But in my mind (having read all 3) the more popular books of his would be "The Gremlins" and "Matilda" (both which has been made into films one even inspiring a whole series of films). Even "James and the Giant Peach" is at least as memorable as CatCF. And with the Charles Dickens novels it's even worse - the list includes Bleak House, David Copperfield, Great Expectations & A Christmas Carol. What? Oliver Twist didn't make the cut, but those did! And IMO if they want to include several of Charles Dickens' novels (even if they missed his most popular one), then why not rather include Lemony Snicket's (Daniel Handler) "A Series of Unfortunate Events"? And if they include only "classics", then what the Elephant got into them to exclude Edgar Allan Poe from the list? The Sherlock Holmes collection made it in, but not even a mention of any of Agatha Christie's novels - WTE? And then if they want to blazon multiple books by one writer, then why only Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit (by JRRT)? Why not also "The Children of Húrin" and "The Silmarillion". And I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they saw LoR as the entire trillogy, not just the first volume! Of course, if the books are only those from which films were made, then it makes sense. Same goes for Frank Herbert's Dune series - I hope by "Dune" they mean the entire set of novels he's written (not just the first volume - which was named Dune, but also Dune Mesiah, The Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune & Chapter-house Dune) including those his son wrote after his death to finally finish the saga (Hunters of Dune, Sandworms of Dune, Winds of Dune & Sisterhood of Dune) and include the prequels to all the great houses (The Machine Crusade, The Butlerian Jihad, House Atriedes, House Harkonnen, House Corrino, etc.). My biggest gripe however: Douglas Adams' "Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy" is in ... none of the rest (which actually comprised most of the stuff shown in the
I just checked if there are any such lists done where I live, and here[^] is one. In Swedish but with original title in the list. I don't agree anymore on it, but at least it's seriously thought through.
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Well, I'm definitely not average - was reading at least one book a week since my 10th birthday (and I'm 41 now). Do the calcs, I can't be bothered. I've read 54 of the 100, some of those multiple times in different editions (especially the Sherlock Homes versions). But I'm definitely with the idea that the list is suspect. E.g. it lists Roald Dahl's "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". But in my mind (having read all 3) the more popular books of his would be "The Gremlins" and "Matilda" (both which has been made into films one even inspiring a whole series of films). Even "James and the Giant Peach" is at least as memorable as CatCF. And with the Charles Dickens novels it's even worse - the list includes Bleak House, David Copperfield, Great Expectations & A Christmas Carol. What? Oliver Twist didn't make the cut, but those did! And IMO if they want to include several of Charles Dickens' novels (even if they missed his most popular one), then why not rather include Lemony Snicket's (Daniel Handler) "A Series of Unfortunate Events"? And if they include only "classics", then what the Elephant got into them to exclude Edgar Allan Poe from the list? The Sherlock Holmes collection made it in, but not even a mention of any of Agatha Christie's novels - WTE? And then if they want to blazon multiple books by one writer, then why only Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit (by JRRT)? Why not also "The Children of Húrin" and "The Silmarillion". And I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they saw LoR as the entire trillogy, not just the first volume! Of course, if the books are only those from which films were made, then it makes sense. Same goes for Frank Herbert's Dune series - I hope by "Dune" they mean the entire set of novels he's written (not just the first volume - which was named Dune, but also Dune Mesiah, The Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune & Chapter-house Dune) including those his son wrote after his death to finally finish the saga (Hunters of Dune, Sandworms of Dune, Winds of Dune & Sisterhood of Dune) and include the prequels to all the great houses (The Machine Crusade, The Butlerian Jihad, House Atriedes, House Harkonnen, House Corrino, etc.). My biggest gripe however: Douglas Adams' "Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy" is in ... none of the rest (which actually comprised most of the stuff shown in the
Totally agree. Then, this is a "yet another top x list" from the internet...
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28. 46 is not bad, congrats ! Were you forced, or was it by choice ? (I ask because I have 5 I _had_ to read in school).
Never forced...I love the library...
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