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  • J Jorgen Andersson

    I don't take any list of that kind without Terry Pratchett seriously!

    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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    Couldn't agree more! The only possible reason to exclude him might be because it's a list of "classics", but that's definitely not the case here: Douglas Adams, Aldus Huxley, Audrey Niffenegger, etc. But not Terry? Come on! He's head and shoulders above those - they're only worthy to be book-stands to his collection.

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      Couldn't agree more! The only possible reason to exclude him might be because it's a list of "classics", but that's definitely not the case here: Douglas Adams, Aldus Huxley, Audrey Niffenegger, etc. But not Terry? Come on! He's head and shoulders above those - they're only worthy to be book-stands to his collection.

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      Hey, Pterry IS classic! :)

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        Well, I'm definitely not average - was reading at least one book a week since my 10th birthday (and I'm 41 now). Do the calcs, I can't be bothered. I've read 54 of the 100, some of those multiple times in different editions (especially the Sherlock Homes versions). But I'm definitely with the idea that the list is suspect. E.g. it lists Roald Dahl's "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". But in my mind (having read all 3) the more popular books of his would be "The Gremlins" and "Matilda" (both which has been made into films one even inspiring a whole series of films). Even "James and the Giant Peach" is at least as memorable as CatCF. And with the Charles Dickens novels it's even worse - the list includes Bleak House, David Copperfield, Great Expectations & A Christmas Carol. What? Oliver Twist didn't make the cut, but those did! And IMO if they want to include several of Charles Dickens' novels (even if they missed his most popular one), then why not rather include Lemony Snicket's (Daniel Handler) "A Series of Unfortunate Events"? And if they include only "classics", then what the Elephant got into them to exclude Edgar Allan Poe from the list? The Sherlock Holmes collection made it in, but not even a mention of any of Agatha Christie's novels - WTE? And then if they want to blazon multiple books by one writer, then why only Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit (by JRRT)? Why not also "The Children of Húrin" and "The Silmarillion". And I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they saw LoR as the entire trillogy, not just the first volume! Of course, if the books are only those from which films were made, then it makes sense. Same goes for Frank Herbert's Dune series - I hope by "Dune" they mean the entire set of novels he's written (not just the first volume - which was named Dune, but also Dune Mesiah, The Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune & Chapter-house Dune) including those his son wrote after his death to finally finish the saga (Hunters of Dune, Sandworms of Dune, Winds of Dune & Sisterhood of Dune) and include the prequels to all the great houses (The Machine Crusade, The Butlerian Jihad, House Atriedes, House Harkonnen, House Corrino, etc.). My biggest gripe however: Douglas Adams' "Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy" is in ... none of the rest (which actually comprised most of the stuff shown in the

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        I just checked if there are any such lists done where I live, and here[^] is one. In Swedish but with original title in the list. I don't agree anymore on it, but at least it's seriously thought through.

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

          And you? http://www.listchallenges.com/kaunismina-bbc-6-books-challenge[^]

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          28. 46 is not bad, congrats ! Were you forced, or was it by choice ? (I ask because I have 5 I _had_ to read in school).

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            Well, I'm definitely not average - was reading at least one book a week since my 10th birthday (and I'm 41 now). Do the calcs, I can't be bothered. I've read 54 of the 100, some of those multiple times in different editions (especially the Sherlock Homes versions). But I'm definitely with the idea that the list is suspect. E.g. it lists Roald Dahl's "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". But in my mind (having read all 3) the more popular books of his would be "The Gremlins" and "Matilda" (both which has been made into films one even inspiring a whole series of films). Even "James and the Giant Peach" is at least as memorable as CatCF. And with the Charles Dickens novels it's even worse - the list includes Bleak House, David Copperfield, Great Expectations & A Christmas Carol. What? Oliver Twist didn't make the cut, but those did! And IMO if they want to include several of Charles Dickens' novels (even if they missed his most popular one), then why not rather include Lemony Snicket's (Daniel Handler) "A Series of Unfortunate Events"? And if they include only "classics", then what the Elephant got into them to exclude Edgar Allan Poe from the list? The Sherlock Holmes collection made it in, but not even a mention of any of Agatha Christie's novels - WTE? And then if they want to blazon multiple books by one writer, then why only Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit (by JRRT)? Why not also "The Children of Húrin" and "The Silmarillion". And I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they saw LoR as the entire trillogy, not just the first volume! Of course, if the books are only those from which films were made, then it makes sense. Same goes for Frank Herbert's Dune series - I hope by "Dune" they mean the entire set of novels he's written (not just the first volume - which was named Dune, but also Dune Mesiah, The Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune & Chapter-house Dune) including those his son wrote after his death to finally finish the saga (Hunters of Dune, Sandworms of Dune, Winds of Dune & Sisterhood of Dune) and include the prequels to all the great houses (The Machine Crusade, The Butlerian Jihad, House Atriedes, House Harkonnen, House Corrino, etc.). My biggest gripe however: Douglas Adams' "Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy" is in ... none of the rest (which actually comprised most of the stuff shown in the

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            Totally agree. Then, this is a "yet another top x list" from the internet...

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            • R Rage

              28. 46 is not bad, congrats ! Were you forced, or was it by choice ? (I ask because I have 5 I _had_ to read in school).

              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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              Never forced...I love the library...

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                Never forced...I love the library...

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                I did not count things I could not finish : crimes and punishment, well, I gave up after a while... I could add about 100+ Sci Fi books to the list, though.

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                • J Jorgen Andersson

                  Hey, Pterry IS classic! :)

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                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                  Hey, Pterry IS classic!

                  Too right you are! ... BUT he's not OLD!

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                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                    And you? http://www.listchallenges.com/kaunismina-bbc-6-books-challenge[^]

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                    I read 19. I've watched the movies/children's TV series of quite a few though...

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                    • D Daniel Pfeffer

                      Like most news organisations, the BBC tends to attract people of a certain political bent. I doubt Atlas Shrugged would be on the recommended reading list of any news organisation. There is a very good book by Thomas Sowell, Intellectuals and Society, that examines intellectuals and intellectualism. Whether or not you agree with his thesis, I think you will find it an interesting read.

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                      From the little I know about the BBC, I do believe you are right. I will look into the book by Thomas Sowell. Thanks!

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                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                        And you? http://www.listchallenges.com/kaunismina-bbc-6-books-challenge[^]

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                        I'll admit, I'm not an avid reader. I only scored 11. Half of them were part of my university course requirements -- the 11, not the 100.

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

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                          Andreas Mertens
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                          A bit disappointing, expected I would have read more...

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

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                            A Whopping 11, LOL. And I have to admit most of those where Required Reading in HS, although I enjoyed a few on my own. Of course, they missed the critical books: - Algorithms, Sedgewick - Mythical Man Month, Brooks - Effective Oracle, Kyte - Code Complete, McConnell - How to Solve it, Polya etc.. I did see a few of the movies... Maybe I don't have the cultural diversity I thought I did...

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              And no Pterry Pratchett? No Orson Scott Card? Harry Potter gets in, but Belgarion doesn't?

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                              Good point! I must have read more than ten of the Discworld books in the space of a year or two as a teen in the mid 1990s. Each one struck me as more enjoyable and more interesting than the first Harry Potter book (admittedly, the only one of the series I've read... aloud, to my daughter, so a very different reading experience). Speaking of HP... no H.P. Lovecraft? No Journey to the Centre of the Earth? No Around the World in 80 Days? No Chronicles of Thomas Covenant? Well fine... I'm a bit embarrassed to say "23" :sigh:

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                                Fourteen.

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                                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                  Like most news organisations, the BBC tends to attract people of a certain political bent. I doubt Atlas Shrugged would be on the recommended reading list of any news organisation. There is a very good book by Thomas Sowell, Intellectuals and Society, that examines intellectuals and intellectualism. Whether or not you agree with his thesis, I think you will find it an interesting read.

                                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                  I did some research on the book. It looks interesting, so I ordered it from Amazon. Thanks for your suggestion!

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                                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

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                                    Of the BBC list? Perhaps a dozen. But that list has a LOT of really bad or boring books. I've read over 20,000 books. I average at least one a day -- I have read two Brad Thor books since I got up yesterday evening ("The apostle" and "Foreign Influence"). I still have every one of them that wasn't borrowed. My daughter is starting to read some of them. I read "Gone With the Wind" and loved it - in the 3rd grade (its also what lead me to getting unlimited borrowing privileges in grade school :-D ). There are some great books, but not that many "classical" books are great. There were some good - even great - books written in the past (I love Sherlock Holmes, for instance) - but most of Charles Dickens' books are complete crap. While there are a huge number of garbage books written today, some far eclipse anything written in the past. Especially once the publisher's page limit was broken a few decades ago.

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                                      I have read every one that I wanted to.

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                                      • G GuyThiebaut

                                        32. They missed out Kazuo Ishiguro's Never Let Me Go although they did include The Remains Of The Day. Glad to see Donna Tarte's Secret History there - probably one of the best novels I have read in the past 10 years. + how about the translations of Iliad, the Oddysey and the Aeneid?

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                                        GuyThiebaut wrote:

                                        how about the translations of... the Aeneid?

                                        I translated six of the books myself. (BTW - Google translate just skips virumque)

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                                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                                          I didn't like the Diskworld novels

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                                          Well, I'm a Terry Prachett fan (I have read all his fiction books, including the non-Discworld ones). But, like Orson Scott Card's SF, Pratchett's books are not to include in a Top 100 list. After reading a Disc-world novel, particularly one of the later ones where flashes of absolute genius are popping up here and there, one gets a kind of "chinese meal" syndrome - delicious at the time, but you are hungry again an hour later. So much more could have done Terry! To bring to life characters and relationships like The Patrician and Drumknott, and just leave them hanging as cardboard cut-outs is some kind of literary sin of omission.

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