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    Mike Winiberg
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    Is it just me, or has the term 'Consultant' now become a synonym for 'salesman'? I notice an increasing number of jobs on LinkedIn et al that are advertised as requiring a Consultant - yet when you look at the detailed job spec, what they really want is a sales droid (no doubt paid on a commission basis) but who actually knows something about the stuff they are selling. Don't get me wrong, it's good that sales people understand what they are selling and the business of their customers, but it still strikes me that calling these types of jobs 'Consultancy' is stretching things a bit far. To me a consultant is someone who goes into a business etc and then helps them analyse the setup, find out what they really want and then guides them in achieving it; or someone who brings specific expertise to an organisation that they otherwise would find it difficult to acquire. Cynically, you might consider a consultant someone who pretends to bring expertise, charges a huge amount of money and then leaves after having made the situation worse! 8) Either way - this is not a sales job!

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      Is it just me, or has the term 'Consultant' now become a synonym for 'salesman'? I notice an increasing number of jobs on LinkedIn et al that are advertised as requiring a Consultant - yet when you look at the detailed job spec, what they really want is a sales droid (no doubt paid on a commission basis) but who actually knows something about the stuff they are selling. Don't get me wrong, it's good that sales people understand what they are selling and the business of their customers, but it still strikes me that calling these types of jobs 'Consultancy' is stretching things a bit far. To me a consultant is someone who goes into a business etc and then helps them analyse the setup, find out what they really want and then guides them in achieving it; or someone who brings specific expertise to an organisation that they otherwise would find it difficult to acquire. Cynically, you might consider a consultant someone who pretends to bring expertise, charges a huge amount of money and then leaves after having made the situation worse! 8) Either way - this is not a sales job!

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      A true consultant will use your watch to tell you what time it is.

      veni bibi saltavi

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        Is it just me, or has the term 'Consultant' now become a synonym for 'salesman'? I notice an increasing number of jobs on LinkedIn et al that are advertised as requiring a Consultant - yet when you look at the detailed job spec, what they really want is a sales droid (no doubt paid on a commission basis) but who actually knows something about the stuff they are selling. Don't get me wrong, it's good that sales people understand what they are selling and the business of their customers, but it still strikes me that calling these types of jobs 'Consultancy' is stretching things a bit far. To me a consultant is someone who goes into a business etc and then helps them analyse the setup, find out what they really want and then guides them in achieving it; or someone who brings specific expertise to an organisation that they otherwise would find it difficult to acquire. Cynically, you might consider a consultant someone who pretends to bring expertise, charges a huge amount of money and then leaves after having made the situation worse! 8) Either way - this is not a sales job!

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        A true consultant knows every position in the Karma Sutra, but is still a virgin.

        veni bibi saltavi

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          A true consultant knows every position in the Karma Sutra, but is still a virgin.

          veni bibi saltavi

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          Rage
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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          Karma

          Is this a mix between having good fortune and being good at it ? :rolleyes:

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            Is it just me, or has the term 'Consultant' now become a synonym for 'salesman'? I notice an increasing number of jobs on LinkedIn et al that are advertised as requiring a Consultant - yet when you look at the detailed job spec, what they really want is a sales droid (no doubt paid on a commission basis) but who actually knows something about the stuff they are selling. Don't get me wrong, it's good that sales people understand what they are selling and the business of their customers, but it still strikes me that calling these types of jobs 'Consultancy' is stretching things a bit far. To me a consultant is someone who goes into a business etc and then helps them analyse the setup, find out what they really want and then guides them in achieving it; or someone who brings specific expertise to an organisation that they otherwise would find it difficult to acquire. Cynically, you might consider a consultant someone who pretends to bring expertise, charges a huge amount of money and then leaves after having made the situation worse! 8) Either way - this is not a sales job!

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            Amarnath S
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            IMHO, a nice example of consultant is that old man who took an entire day to find out which nut had gone loose in the ship, tightened it in a minute, and ... ... gave a bill of $10000, where $1 was tightening fees, and ... ... the rest was for consultancy.

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              A true consultant knows every position in the Karma Sutra, but is still a virgin.

              veni bibi saltavi

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              Stefto
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              i'm not supposed to laugh at this, but i can't help but like the metaphor :laugh:

              #region(start signature) Life's like a nose, you've got to get out of it whats in it! \#endregion

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                Is it just me, or has the term 'Consultant' now become a synonym for 'salesman'? I notice an increasing number of jobs on LinkedIn et al that are advertised as requiring a Consultant - yet when you look at the detailed job spec, what they really want is a sales droid (no doubt paid on a commission basis) but who actually knows something about the stuff they are selling. Don't get me wrong, it's good that sales people understand what they are selling and the business of their customers, but it still strikes me that calling these types of jobs 'Consultancy' is stretching things a bit far. To me a consultant is someone who goes into a business etc and then helps them analyse the setup, find out what they really want and then guides them in achieving it; or someone who brings specific expertise to an organisation that they otherwise would find it difficult to acquire. Cynically, you might consider a consultant someone who pretends to bring expertise, charges a huge amount of money and then leaves after having made the situation worse! 8) Either way - this is not a sales job!

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                Camilo Reyes
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                Mike Winiberg wrote:

                someone who brings specific expertise to an organisation that they otherwise would find it difficult to acquire

                Coming from a "software consulting" company I once believed as you do. The gig went south when they tried to turn me into a mindless droid.

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