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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    Well, you know how it goes. People want to make their own mistakes. Sure, he could ask for A and you could give him B. That makes him feel stupid or not taken seriously. You're pissed, he's pissed, and if he ever talks to your boss he'll tell him what an unhelpful ass you were :( Then he could ask for A and you could give him A. After close consideration he realizes he actually needs B (which you already knew). He then asks for B and you give him B. In this case you have taken him seriously and given him a change to save his ass (he already knew he needed B, but wanted to see A anyway). It takes a little longer (although ultimately it doesn't as he complains and wants A anyway) and he's happy too. Next time he talks to your boss he'll tell him how helpful you were :) I prefer to work with cats. It's much less of a hassle...

    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

    Regards, Sander

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    Johnny J
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    Sander Rossel wrote:

    I prefer to work with cats. It's much less of a hassle...

    Unless you're a professional Cat Wrangler[^] of course! :doh: But in essence, I agree... ;)

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Well, you know how it goes. People want to make their own mistakes. Sure, he could ask for A and you could give him B. That makes him feel stupid or not taken seriously. You're pissed, he's pissed, and if he ever talks to your boss he'll tell him what an unhelpful ass you were :( Then he could ask for A and you could give him A. After close consideration he realizes he actually needs B (which you already knew). He then asks for B and you give him B. In this case you have taken him seriously and given him a change to save his ass (he already knew he needed B, but wanted to see A anyway). It takes a little longer (although ultimately it doesn't as he complains and wants A anyway) and he's happy too. Next time he talks to your boss he'll tell him how helpful you were :) I prefer to work with cats. It's much less of a hassle...

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      OriginalGriff
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      Sander Rossel wrote:

      I prefer to work with cats. It's much less of a hassle...

      Do you want to borrow mine? He's taken to hunting rats and trying to eat them. Which gives him diarrhea. Which he explosively ejects only in the litter tray in the bedroom, not the one downstairs. At 04:00. X| And then he sulks and gets stroppy because he gets locked in for a few days until he's over the squits...

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Sander Rossel wrote:

        I prefer to work with cats. It's much less of a hassle...

        Do you want to borrow mine? He's taken to hunting rats and trying to eat them. Which gives him diarrhea. Which he explosively ejects only in the litter tray in the bedroom, not the one downstairs. At 04:00. X| And then he sulks and gets stroppy because he gets locked in for a few days until he's over the squits...

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        Kenneth Haugland
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        That is easy, your neighborhood need more cats, which will decrease the likelihood that your cat finds rats. :-D

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        • K Kenneth Haugland

          That is easy, your neighborhood need more cats, which will decrease the likelihood that your cat finds rats. :-D

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          chriselst
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          Griff doesn't have a neighbourhood. Despite what Despicable Me might lead you to believe, most super-villains have their secret bases away from suburbia. The rolling Welsh countryside covered with attack sheep are perfect for Griff's needs.

          Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Sander Rossel wrote:

            I prefer to work with cats. It's much less of a hassle...

            Do you want to borrow mine? He's taken to hunting rats and trying to eat them. Which gives him diarrhea. Which he explosively ejects only in the litter tray in the bedroom, not the one downstairs. At 04:00. X| And then he sulks and gets stroppy because he gets locked in for a few days until he's over the squits...

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            Does your cat deep fry the rats and adds some tabasco and nacho on them? :D No but I am seriously wondering why rats would give your cat the squits, I mean the meat alone shouldn't be a problem. I am only wondering this because I have pets myself - not cats though, not any more.

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Sander Rossel wrote:

              I prefer to work with cats. It's much less of a hassle...

              Do you want to borrow mine? He's taken to hunting rats and trying to eat them. Which gives him diarrhea. Which he explosively ejects only in the litter tray in the bedroom, not the one downstairs. At 04:00. X| And then he sulks and gets stroppy because he gets locked in for a few days until he's over the squits...

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              Where your cat can find rats???

              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

              "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                Where your cat can find rats???

                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                OriginalGriff
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                Next door. I hadn't seen a rat in 10 years when we moved here - then new neighbours moved in and they decided to get ducks. And suddenly, he's bring in around 5 rats a week...fortunately all recently dead so far, unlike his mice, shrews, voles, moles, and birds.

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  Does your cat deep fry the rats and adds some tabasco and nacho on them? :D No but I am seriously wondering why rats would give your cat the squits, I mean the meat alone shouldn't be a problem. I am only wondering this because I have pets myself - not cats though, not any more.

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  Not sure - I suspect it's a form of gastroenteritis that the rats are carrying, since when he manages to partially eat them he gets the squits that night. And he's fairly indiscriminate what parts he eats since he really doesn't want me taking them off him. He's not too bad with smaller stuff, but the bigger the prey the more he wants to eat it. I'm hoping it's that, and not a reaction to any rat poison they have eaten (and I know there are people round here who have called in the rat man)

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • C chriselst

                    So I've had an email from someone who says they are a Business Analyst within our organisation asking for a diagram to do with the systems I work on. I sent him what he needed. He replied to say that is not what he wanted. Now I have sent him exactly what he asked for. Just waiting for him to realise it is of no use to him at all.

                    Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                    W Balboos GHB
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                    I've been discussing with my (the IT) director about having a monthly sacrifice of a user. The logic being they'll fall all over themselves to not get chosen for the honor. And if not, we still cull the herd and reap the long-term benefits.

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    • C chriselst

                      So I've had an email from someone who says they are a Business Analyst within our organisation asking for a diagram to do with the systems I work on. I sent him what he needed. He replied to say that is not what he wanted. Now I have sent him exactly what he asked for. Just waiting for him to realise it is of no use to him at all.

                      Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Could you have down-voted his request?

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                      • W W Balboos GHB

                        I've been discussing with my (the IT) director about having a monthly sacrifice of a user. The logic being they'll fall all over themselves to not get chosen for the honor. And if not, we still cull the herd and reap the long-term benefits.

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        Gary Wheeler
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                        W∴ Balboos wrote:

                        we still cull the herd and reap the long-term benefits

                        I like it! :-D

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        • J Johnny J

                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          I prefer to work with cats. It's much less of a hassle...

                          Unless you're a professional Cat Wrangler[^] of course! :doh: But in essence, I agree... ;)

                          Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                          Anonymous
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                          The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                          Winston Churchill, 1944
                          -----
                          I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                          Me, all the time

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          :thumbsup: :laugh:

                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            I prefer to work with cats. It's much less of a hassle...

                            Do you want to borrow mine? He's taken to hunting rats and trying to eat them. Which gives him diarrhea. Which he explosively ejects only in the litter tray in the bedroom, not the one downstairs. At 04:00. X| And then he sulks and gets stroppy because he gets locked in for a few days until he's over the squits...

                            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                            Sander Rossel
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                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            only in the litter tray in the bedroom

                            Get the litter tray out of the bedroom. Problem solved :thumbsup: :D

                            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              OriginalGriff wrote:

                              only in the litter tray in the bedroom

                              Get the litter tray out of the bedroom. Problem solved :thumbsup: :D

                              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

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                              OriginalGriff
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                              Carpet, remember? :laugh:

                              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                Carpet, remember? :laugh:

                                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                Sander Rossel
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                                You blame your cat for the carpet? ;p

                                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                • W W Balboos GHB

                                  I've been discussing with my (the IT) director about having a monthly sacrifice of a user. The logic being they'll fall all over themselves to not get chosen for the honor. And if not, we still cull the herd and reap the long-term benefits.

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Daniel Pfeffer
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                                  To whom will the monthly (l)user be sacrificed? :)

                                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                    To whom will the monthly (l)user be sacrificed? :)

                                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                    W Balboos GHB
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                                    Not relevant - just so the charred bones remain piled up and distinctly visible as a reminder until the next full moon.

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    • C chriselst

                                      So I've had an email from someone who says they are a Business Analyst within our organisation asking for a diagram to do with the systems I work on. I sent him what he needed. He replied to say that is not what he wanted. Now I have sent him exactly what he asked for. Just waiting for him to realise it is of no use to him at all.

                                      Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                                      webatxcent
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                                      Sounds like an old Management-IT story I heard, it goes something like this. Man #1 is walking along the desert. Man #2 appears overhead in a hot air balloon. Man #2 calls down to man #1 asking "Where am I?" Man #1 calls up to man #2 replying "You are in a balloon, about 50 feet above the ground." Man #2 calls down "You must be in IT, the answer you gave me is correct but of no use to me." Man #1 calls up "You must be in Management. You ask a vague question, and blame others when the answer is not what you wanted."

                                      -Bill

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        Carpet, remember? :laugh:

                                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                        David H Walker
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                                        Carpet Diem -- today the carpet, tomorrow the bed covers.

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