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What's with these programming "rockstar" job postings?

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    It's reasonably new: a "new generation" of recruiters are sliming their way into the "business" and want some way to feel "dynamic", "thrusting", "sexy", and "cutting edge". What they mean is "We want a brilliant coder who works really, really cheap. And I've got the latest generation iPhone so I'm hip. What does 'javascript' mean? And how do you turn this phone on?"

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    divyamistry
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    It's kind of sad though. Genuinely good companies with excellent jobs are ruined by plastering such nonsense phrases. Makes me facepalm at 100mph.

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    • D divyamistry

      It's kind of sad though. Genuinely good companies with excellent jobs are ruined by plastering such nonsense phrases. Makes me facepalm at 100mph.

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      OriginalGriff
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      Chances are the job doesn't really exist (yet) anyway. I suspect the vast majority of them are just "CV fishing" trips.

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      • J Jacquers

        Maybe they expect you to work for a song and smash your keyboard after a coding session.

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        divyamistry
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        That sounds like a great gig. I'd sign up for that.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          It's obvious: they want a cheap code monkey who can bash the skins like a Daemon or make the axe cry.

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          What they'll actually get is near illiterate script kiddy who can only manage to bash the bishop!

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          • D divyamistry

            Is it just me or have others also started noticing unnerving amounts of "programming rockstar required" job posts? First of all, WHAT? Second of that, let's assume that there is such a thing as a "programming rockstar". And if there were that many programming rockstars around to fill these jobs, then they'd not be rockstars! They'd be just another set of developers. Oh and then the job posts say the candidate can be fresh college graduate or with "2-3 years of experience". Again, WHAT? What kind of rockstar is this? It's getting to a point where I am going to have to write a browser add-on that puts a big fat red STOP sign on a job post that mentions requirement of "rockstar". -oo

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            I went for a job interview for a rockstar programmer, I walked in a threw their monitor out of the window.

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            • D divyamistry

              Is it just me or have others also started noticing unnerving amounts of "programming rockstar required" job posts? First of all, WHAT? Second of that, let's assume that there is such a thing as a "programming rockstar". And if there were that many programming rockstars around to fill these jobs, then they'd not be rockstars! They'd be just another set of developers. Oh and then the job posts say the candidate can be fresh college graduate or with "2-3 years of experience". Again, WHAT? What kind of rockstar is this? It's getting to a point where I am going to have to write a browser add-on that puts a big fat red STOP sign on a job post that mentions requirement of "rockstar". -oo

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              den2k88
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              If they'd want a programming metalhead I could help though :D

              Geek code v 3.12 {      GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X } If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

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              • D divyamistry

                Is it just me or have others also started noticing unnerving amounts of "programming rockstar required" job posts? First of all, WHAT? Second of that, let's assume that there is such a thing as a "programming rockstar". And if there were that many programming rockstars around to fill these jobs, then they'd not be rockstars! They'd be just another set of developers. Oh and then the job posts say the candidate can be fresh college graduate or with "2-3 years of experience". Again, WHAT? What kind of rockstar is this? It's getting to a point where I am going to have to write a browser add-on that puts a big fat red STOP sign on a job post that mentions requirement of "rockstar". -oo

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                Sander Rossel
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                I once saw a job posting for making sandwiches at Sandwich Express. To apply you needed great communication skills, the ability to learn fast, you need to be driven, customer oriented, a problem solver and who knows what. That was a McDonalds-esque job and when I read it I felt under qualified and I've got a masters degree! It's all a load of crap, if you want the job apply and even if you're not a 'rockstar' (whatever that is) you'll still have a pretty good chance! The truth is those guys wouldn't recognize a rockstar when they'd see one, so you're as good as anyone else :laugh:

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                • L Lost User

                  I've only got JSON :((

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  How about burying it in lime then?

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                    I went for a job interview for a rockstar programmer, I walked in a threw their monitor out of the window.

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                    Did you get the job? Because rockstars are famous for thrashing (hotel) rooms.

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                    • D divyamistry

                      Is it just me or have others also started noticing unnerving amounts of "programming rockstar required" job posts? First of all, WHAT? Second of that, let's assume that there is such a thing as a "programming rockstar". And if there were that many programming rockstars around to fill these jobs, then they'd not be rockstars! They'd be just another set of developers. Oh and then the job posts say the candidate can be fresh college graduate or with "2-3 years of experience". Again, WHAT? What kind of rockstar is this? It's getting to a point where I am going to have to write a browser add-on that puts a big fat red STOP sign on a job post that mentions requirement of "rockstar". -oo

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                      Maybe they want programmers doing drugs?

                      Hogan

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                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                        How about burying it in lime then?

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        Lost User
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                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                        How about burying it in lime then?

                        ..and gin? :-\

                        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                        • D divyamistry

                          You've been around the block, right? I'm a relatively young'un. Help me! What's this crazy fascination with "javascript rockstar" and "data rockstar" and "scala rockstar" and "whatever rockstar"? :confused: Has this been the case all these years and I just never noticed?

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                          W Balboos GHB
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                          The "rockstar" qualifier is actually quite a helpful hint to put your efforts elsewhere where they might do some good. The HR officer who wrote the position thinks password input come up in a giant text box see-able from across a room, use plain text, can can be cracked by you, the rock star, in five guesses or less. Just like in the movies.

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                          • S snorkie

                            Maybe they want programmers doing drugs?

                            Hogan

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                            den2k88
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                            Looking at some of my past code I actually ask myself if doing drugs would have increased the quality of it. Possibly preventing me to have access to the keyboard.

                            Geek code v 3.12 {      GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X } If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

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                            • D divyamistry

                              Is it just me or have others also started noticing unnerving amounts of "programming rockstar required" job posts? First of all, WHAT? Second of that, let's assume that there is such a thing as a "programming rockstar". And if there were that many programming rockstars around to fill these jobs, then they'd not be rockstars! They'd be just another set of developers. Oh and then the job posts say the candidate can be fresh college graduate or with "2-3 years of experience". Again, WHAT? What kind of rockstar is this? It's getting to a point where I am going to have to write a browser add-on that puts a big fat red STOP sign on a job post that mentions requirement of "rockstar". -oo

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                              Corporal Agarn
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                              I know that kids are having rockstar birthday parties. Heck when I was young if you wanted to be a rockstar you got a guitar and acted like you knew how to play it. So anyway this might be a carry over from their childhood (are kids allowed that now?).

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                              • D divyamistry

                                Is it just me or have others also started noticing unnerving amounts of "programming rockstar required" job posts? First of all, WHAT? Second of that, let's assume that there is such a thing as a "programming rockstar". And if there were that many programming rockstars around to fill these jobs, then they'd not be rockstars! They'd be just another set of developers. Oh and then the job posts say the candidate can be fresh college graduate or with "2-3 years of experience". Again, WHAT? What kind of rockstar is this? It's getting to a point where I am going to have to write a browser add-on that puts a big fat red STOP sign on a job post that mentions requirement of "rockstar". -oo

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                                Haven't read any other comments, but what they mean by "rockstar" is willing to work 25 hours a day, 8 days a week for no actual wages but promises of things to come at some later date*. You should know the full stack of every technology out there and at least half of them not yet in existence. Plus you should spend another 6 hours a day of your own time keeping current on any changes in technology. That isn't counting the time you should spend updating each and every single project to keep ahead of the bleeding edge. And you need to keep your mouth shut while they take the credit for your efforts. *Actual date to be determined two months, one week, three days, sixteen hours, forty-two minutes, and nine seconds (precisely) after you have burnt out and quit.

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                                  Is it just me or have others also started noticing unnerving amounts of "programming rockstar required" job posts? First of all, WHAT? Second of that, let's assume that there is such a thing as a "programming rockstar". And if there were that many programming rockstars around to fill these jobs, then they'd not be rockstars! They'd be just another set of developers. Oh and then the job posts say the candidate can be fresh college graduate or with "2-3 years of experience". Again, WHAT? What kind of rockstar is this? It's getting to a point where I am going to have to write a browser add-on that puts a big fat red STOP sign on a job post that mentions requirement of "rockstar". -oo

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                                  They are clueless, and they hope that someone will bring them a stairway to heaven.

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    It's reasonably new: a "new generation" of recruiters are sliming their way into the "business" and want some way to feel "dynamic", "thrusting", "sexy", and "cutting edge". What they mean is "We want a brilliant coder who works really, really cheap. And I've got the latest generation iPhone so I'm hip. What does 'javascript' mean? And how do you turn this phone on?"

                                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                    Clodetta del Mar
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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    What they mean is "We want a brilliant coder who works really, really cheap. And I've got the latest generation iPhone so I'm hip. What does 'javascript' mean? And how do you turn this phone on?"

                                    :thumbsup: +5

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                                    • M megaadam

                                      They are clueless, and they hope that someone will bring them a stairway to heaven.

                                      Life is too shor

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                                      den2k88
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                                      With a request like that I could very well send them to the highway to Hell instead.

                                      Geek code v 3.12 {      GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X } If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

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                                      • D divyamistry

                                        Is it just me or have others also started noticing unnerving amounts of "programming rockstar required" job posts? First of all, WHAT? Second of that, let's assume that there is such a thing as a "programming rockstar". And if there were that many programming rockstars around to fill these jobs, then they'd not be rockstars! They'd be just another set of developers. Oh and then the job posts say the candidate can be fresh college graduate or with "2-3 years of experience". Again, WHAT? What kind of rockstar is this? It's getting to a point where I am going to have to write a browser add-on that puts a big fat red STOP sign on a job post that mentions requirement of "rockstar". -oo

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                                        GuyThiebaut
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                                        It's an interesting idea that in my experience(I have sat in on interviews where these sorts of terms have been used from those higher up) originates from those with little direct or current experience in the technical side of IT. The sort of nightmare conjured up by marketing and HR departments when they are allowed to metaphorically cross-breed. As a developer and line manager I want the people I work with to be careful, considerate and thoughtful in their work - after all what is at risk is the future of the business given how the business runs on its software and IT development work. So the last thing I want is some drug taking, irresponsible, self-interested loose cannon screwing up things for the business. The whole idea makes me want to run in the opposite direction - as an analogue I don't think many of us would want a 'rock star' developer working on pimping the ABS software in our cars.

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                                          Haven't read any other comments, but what they mean by "rockstar" is willing to work 25 hours a day, 8 days a week for no actual wages but promises of things to come at some later date*. You should know the full stack of every technology out there and at least half of them not yet in existence. Plus you should spend another 6 hours a day of your own time keeping current on any changes in technology. That isn't counting the time you should spend updating each and every single project to keep ahead of the bleeding edge. And you need to keep your mouth shut while they take the credit for your efforts. *Actual date to be determined two months, one week, three days, sixteen hours, forty-two minutes, and nine seconds (precisely) after you have burnt out and quit.

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                                          RJOberg wrote:

                                          to keep ahead of the bleeding edge.

                                          As any HR asking for a rockstar programmer really should do.

                                          Geek code v 3.12 {      GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X } If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

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