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What is type of foo, if foo != foo?

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    Palash Mondal_
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    Recently had been debugging using the browser console, when I found this answer. Can you guess the type of foo here? Is it a string, function or else?

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      Recently had been debugging using the browser console, when I found this answer. Can you guess the type of foo here? Is it a string, function or else?

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      Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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      By definition undefined should be unequal to undefined. Is it? Cheers!

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        By definition undefined should be unequal to undefined. Is it? Cheers!

        "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

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        Palash Mondal_
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        Nope, `undefined` is not the answer. Since `undefined == undefined` returns true in console.

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        • P Palash Mondal_

          Nope, `undefined` is not the answer. Since `undefined == undefined` returns true in console.

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          Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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          Ok, I googled it. It's NaN! Cheers!

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            Ok, I googled it. It's NaN! Cheers!

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            Palash Mondal_
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            Your are very near, but this is not the exact answer :)

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              Your are very near, but this is not the exact answer :)

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              Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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              That's bullshit! I've tried it out and surely foo!=foo is true if foo is NaN.

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                That's bullshit! I've tried it out and surely foo!=foo is true if foo is NaN.

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                Palash Mondal_
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                Yup, you are right but here foo is actually NaN, but the question is `What is type of foo` So, the real answer is `number` Since, typeof NaN returns "number" Cheers!

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                • P Palash Mondal_

                  Recently had been debugging using the browser console, when I found this answer. Can you guess the type of foo here? Is it a string, function or else?

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                  Lost User
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                  It's 2015, IEEE 754 is from 1985, how does this still surprise people after 30 years?

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                    Yup, you are right but here foo is actually NaN, but the question is `What is type of foo` So, the real answer is `number` Since, typeof NaN returns "number" Cheers!

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                    Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                    Isn't it amazing, how NaN is a number, how a number is a word and how a word is a string. :doh:

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                      Isn't it amazing, how NaN is a number, how a number is a word and how a word is a string. :doh:

                      The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                      Palash Mondal_
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                      yup, the NaN stuff is amazing, but not sure about 'how a number is a word and how a word is a string' :confused:

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                      • P Palash Mondal_

                        yup, the NaN stuff is amazing, but not sure about 'how a number is a word and how a word is a string' :confused:

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                        Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                        Great that you already know the NaN is a number. Now, if you have ever programmed in low-level, you would know that a word is a size given to a data, 1 byte, 2 byte etc. So the size of the register in CPU is a word; pre-defined size, doesn't matter 8-bit 16-bit or what. The size is number, thus, a number is word. :-) Now a word in our language, for example, "Hello", cannot be represented as a word in computer which needs some other type, which is string (array of characters), thus a word is a string. From here comes the metaphor, In programming, a number is a word and a word is a string. :cool:

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                          Great that you already know the NaN is a number. Now, if you have ever programmed in low-level, you would know that a word is a size given to a data, 1 byte, 2 byte etc. So the size of the register in CPU is a word; pre-defined size, doesn't matter 8-bit 16-bit or what. The size is number, thus, a number is word. :-) Now a word in our language, for example, "Hello", cannot be represented as a word in computer which needs some other type, which is string (array of characters), thus a word is a string. From here comes the metaphor, In programming, a number is a word and a word is a string. :cool:

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                          Palash Mondal_
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                          Do you have any reference documentations for it? I want to learn about it more in-depth. Thanks!

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                            Isn't it amazing, how NaN is a number, how a number is a word and how a word is a string. :doh:

                            The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                            Sander Rossel
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                            Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

                            Isn't it amazing, how NaN is a number

                            Yes! Especially since NaN is short for "Not a Number"! X| My whole life is a lie!

                            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

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                            Regards, Sander

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                              Do you have any reference documentations for it? I want to learn about it more in-depth. Thanks!

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                              Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                              Sure, read about Word in computer architecture[^] and the string data type[^]. One thing you should know is that there is no actual string type, it is just an array of characters. :-) Good luck for more in-depths.

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                                Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

                                Isn't it amazing, how NaN is a number

                                Yes! Especially since NaN is short for "Not a Number"! X| My whole life is a lie!

                                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                                Clarified, but how is a number a word (the size of register) and how is a word actually a string (the data type)? :laugh: Plus, short form of your life is a lie (removing the F). :cool:

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                                  Sure, read about Word in computer architecture[^] and the string data type[^]. One thing you should know is that there is no actual string type, it is just an array of characters. :-) Good luck for more in-depths.

                                  The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                                  Palash Mondal_
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                                  Thanks for it. Have a nice day ahead! :)

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                                  • P Palash Mondal_

                                    Recently had been debugging using the browser console, when I found this answer. Can you guess the type of foo here? Is it a string, function or else?

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                                    Joan M
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                                    Any after overloading operators...

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                                      By definition undefined should be unequal to undefined. Is it? Cheers!

                                      "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

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                                      Lost User
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                                      No, undefined compared with anything (anything includes also again undefined) is "an error" and therefore neither equal nor unequal... it is simply again undefined.

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                                        Great that you already know the NaN is a number. Now, if you have ever programmed in low-level, you would know that a word is a size given to a data, 1 byte, 2 byte etc. So the size of the register in CPU is a word; pre-defined size, doesn't matter 8-bit 16-bit or what. The size is number, thus, a number is word. :-) Now a word in our language, for example, "Hello", cannot be represented as a word in computer which needs some other type, which is string (array of characters), thus a word is a string. From here comes the metaphor, In programming, a number is a word and a word is a string. :cool:

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                                        newton saber
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                                        Great explanation of how semantics and jargon are sometimes or often at odds with meaning.

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                                        • P Palash Mondal_

                                          Recently had been debugging using the browser console, when I found this answer. Can you guess the type of foo here? Is it a string, function or else?

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                                          newton saber
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                                          spoiler alert -- answer is below Opened Chrome Dev console and ran the following.

                                          var x = 'garbage' / 10;

                                          x
                                          NaN

                                          x != x // with coercion
                                          true

                                          x !== x // even without coercion
                                          true

                                          typeof(x)
                                          "number"

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