Teaching programming...
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A bit of a quandary here... This is not your preschooler who wants to program, it's a junior in HS who has been busy in LUA for a while. I'm his hard-a$$ dad who doesn't want to elephant this up. Ideas for first project? He's playing with the idea of robotics, but I'm thinking guide him to another scripting language (no idea what) to get his feet wet? java is not in the equation.....
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Games with Python from one of the books available here: www.inventwithpython.com (Sorry, for some reason, hyperlink doesn't seem to work in the Lounge).
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A bit of a quandary here... This is not your preschooler who wants to program, it's a junior in HS who has been busy in LUA for a while. I'm his hard-a$$ dad who doesn't want to elephant this up. Ideas for first project? He's playing with the idea of robotics, but I'm thinking guide him to another scripting language (no idea what) to get his feet wet? java is not in the equation.....
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Get him one of the new Raspberry Pi 2's and start him off with either Python or C/C++. Has a large following, lots of hardware to chose from and they're fun.
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I"d grab Unity and teach him c# and build a 3d game as a project.
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Or go for Unreal Engine. They have a graphical scripting engine. For understanding how a program works I think its pretty cool.
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A bit of a quandary here... This is not your preschooler who wants to program, it's a junior in HS who has been busy in LUA for a while. I'm his hard-a$$ dad who doesn't want to elephant this up. Ideas for first project? He's playing with the idea of robotics, but I'm thinking guide him to another scripting language (no idea what) to get his feet wet? java is not in the equation.....
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
charlieg wrote:
He's playing with the idea of robotics
Someone else mentioned the Arduino - I'd second that as they do a starter kit[^] with a breadboard, bags of electronic components, wires, a motor, a few sensors, etc. The manual is pretty good too with quite a few projects to help get things up and running.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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It has to be something he wants. My kid is starting to use a little Java for Minecraft mods.
I completely agree with this. Starting with something he's interested in will be key for holding his interest. My suggestion is Lego Mindstorms. What kid doesn't like building with Legos, and these are Legos you can program with. Yes, it'll be in Java, but he's not going to know the difference between it or any other language to start with.
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I completely agree with this. Starting with something he's interested in will be key for holding his interest. My suggestion is Lego Mindstorms. What kid doesn't like building with Legos, and these are Legos you can program with. Yes, it'll be in Java, but he's not going to know the difference between it or any other language to start with.
Walter Bates wrote:
My suggestion is Lego Mindstorms...Yes, it'll be in Java...
The last time I played with EV3, there was no language involved, only building blocks.
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charlieg wrote:
He's playing with the idea of robotics
Someone else mentioned the Arduino - I'd second that as they do a starter kit[^] with a breadboard, bags of electronic components, wires, a motor, a few sensors, etc. The manual is pretty good too with quite a few projects to help get things up and running.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
I wish I had one of those when I started programming :)
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A bit of a quandary here... This is not your preschooler who wants to program, it's a junior in HS who has been busy in LUA for a while. I'm his hard-a$$ dad who doesn't want to elephant this up. Ideas for first project? He's playing with the idea of robotics, but I'm thinking guide him to another scripting language (no idea what) to get his feet wet? java is not in the equation.....
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Advice I got from my former boss at a medical research facility? Go into robotics and AI. There will be no shortage of jobs that both pay well and challenge you to continue to learn and grow. If he has any interest in it, give him the means to explore, learn, and most importantly enjoy it. For the love of your deity of choice do not be like my dad. He gave the impression that it doesn't matter if you are happy with your job or not. It is your job and you should do it because that is what defines who you are as a person.
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A bit of a quandary here... This is not your preschooler who wants to program, it's a junior in HS who has been busy in LUA for a while. I'm his hard-a$$ dad who doesn't want to elephant this up. Ideas for first project? He's playing with the idea of robotics, but I'm thinking guide him to another scripting language (no idea what) to get his feet wet? java is not in the equation.....
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I would have killed for one of these as a high schooler.
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charlieg wrote:
He's playing with the idea of robotics
Someone else mentioned the Arduino - I'd second that as they do a starter kit[^] with a breadboard, bags of electronic components, wires, a motor, a few sensors, etc. The manual is pretty good too with quite a few projects to help get things up and running.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Advice I got from my former boss at a medical research facility? Go into robotics and AI. There will be no shortage of jobs that both pay well and challenge you to continue to learn and grow. If he has any interest in it, give him the means to explore, learn, and most importantly enjoy it. For the love of your deity of choice do not be like my dad. He gave the impression that it doesn't matter if you are happy with your job or not. It is your job and you should do it because that is what defines who you are as a person.
lol - "diety of choice" - cleaning laptop screen now. Yes, there are jobs that pay $$ which you hate and jobs that don't pay that you love... then there are those jobs that pay $$ and you love (like mine).
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Heads up, your link is missing the 'it' from the end. And I am going to be picking one of those up for some projects I want to do around the house. My wife is going to kill me. :-\ https://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoStarterKit[^]
Cheers, I just fixed it :) I bought one for my kid to get started with. It's a great mix of electronics and programming, I'm hoping to have a play around with it myself when I get time :)
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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charlieg wrote:
He's playing with the idea of robotics
Someone else mentioned the Arduino - I'd second that as they do a starter kit[^] with a breadboard, bags of electronic components, wires, a motor, a few sensors, etc. The manual is pretty good too with quite a few projects to help get things up and running.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
The starter kit it cool, but it can become a bit boring after a while. After owning a few kits this one is my favorite: Tracked Dev Kit Originally I bought This one but purchased the additional items separately. I also have a bunch of NetDuiono kits which are a boat load of fun too. In addition to the programming side, the basic electronics is just as much fun. I even like soldering together components.
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The starter kit it cool, but it can become a bit boring after a while. After owning a few kits this one is my favorite: Tracked Dev Kit Originally I bought This one but purchased the additional items separately. I also have a bunch of NetDuiono kits which are a boat load of fun too. In addition to the programming side, the basic electronics is just as much fun. I even like soldering together components.
Well it is a starter kit :) Once you've got past the "starter" phase you should be moving on to bigger and better things. I like that tracked dev kit - even better that it doesn't come with any code so the user has to work it out! :thumbsup:
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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charlieg wrote:
He's playing with the idea of robotics
Someone else mentioned the Arduino - I'd second that as they do a starter kit[^] with a breadboard, bags of electronic components, wires, a motor, a few sensors, etc. The manual is pretty good too with quite a few projects to help get things up and running.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
As long as the clock projects don't make their way to school ;P
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As long as the clock projects don't make their way to school ;P
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Get him one of the new Raspberry Pi 2's and start him off with either Python or C/C++. Has a large following, lots of hardware to chose from and they're fun.
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A bit of a quandary here... This is not your preschooler who wants to program, it's a junior in HS who has been busy in LUA for a while. I'm his hard-a$$ dad who doesn't want to elephant this up. Ideas for first project? He's playing with the idea of robotics, but I'm thinking guide him to another scripting language (no idea what) to get his feet wet? java is not in the equation.....
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
charlieg wrote:
Ideas for first project?
Whatever gets him fired up enough to stick with climbing the programming learning curve long enough to start to do interesting things. I usually suggest games based on my experience, but whatever works. When I used to teach Java to HS students, the very first in-class lab was to compile a provided program. The program we provided was "wumpus". It was a very simple text game -- we told the user to enter a number between 1 and 10 to indicate which room they want to look for the wumpus in, we read that number, then compared it to a hardcoded answer. If they picked the right number, we printed out that they found the wumpus, if they didn't, we printed out that they didn't find the wumpus. End of program. We gave them 30 minutes to do the lab, and by the end of it we had them hooked -- we usually had all 20 students asking us how to extend it, each in their own unique way. We used that program to introduce variables, boolean expressions and if statements, loops, user input, etc. Each lesson had an in-class lab, and most of the students immediately returned to that original wumpus game code to add some new feature, often based on what they'd just learned. So yeah, whatever fires him up enough to hook him. I'd suggest you start simple like our wumpus game did -- maybe give him a program that asks whether the robot should move forward straight, forward left, or forward right, then moves it. Then start helping him extend it to do more interesting things with the robot.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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Look what was in the daily news today! http://www.adafruit.com/windows10iotpi2[^]
Adafruits a good outfit, I've been buying stuff from them for several years now and they keep getting better. They not only sell the boards and such but provide firmware/software to control them.
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