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Windows 10 Automatic Downloads is blowing data caps.

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    Lost User
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    I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. They have approximately 30 PCs - where each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent. My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this. To boot - there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location. This is not good Microsoft.... not good.

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      I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. They have approximately 30 PCs - where each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent. My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this. To boot - there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location. This is not good Microsoft.... not good.

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      newton saber
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      Unintended consquences again. Stupid humans at Microsoft. :laugh: I'm glad I'm a robot, well Android.

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        I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. They have approximately 30 PCs - where each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent. My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this. To boot - there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location. This is not good Microsoft.... not good.

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        kmoorevs
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        23741 wrote:

        each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent.

        Can they prove this? If so, maybe MS would be responsible???

        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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          23741 wrote:

          each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent.

          Can they prove this? If so, maybe MS would be responsible???

          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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          Brisingr Aerowing
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          Look Here.[^]

          What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

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            I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. They have approximately 30 PCs - where each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent. My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this. To boot - there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location. This is not good Microsoft.... not good.

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            9082365
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            How does it come about that each PC has a separate download? Surely these 30 PCs are not each individually connected to the Internet? :confused:

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              Look Here.[^]

              What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

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              kmoorevs
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              :wtf: :wtf: That is very bad! I can see a class action brewing here. :)

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                Look Here.[^]

                What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

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                Lost User
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                Disgusting and presumptuous behavior by MS! :mad:

                How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                • K kmoorevs

                  23741 wrote:

                  each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent.

                  Can they prove this? If so, maybe MS would be responsible???

                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                  Weylyn Cadwell
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                  It's probably stated deep in the Terms. So while they did it, you're probably the one responsible.

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                    How does it come about that each PC has a separate download? Surely these 30 PCs are not each individually connected to the Internet? :confused:

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                    Simon_Whale
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                    it is being downloaded silently by windows update, we have it a work on all windows 7 and 8.1 machines. Were just lucky to have a leased line

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                      :wtf: :wtf: That is very bad! I can see a class action brewing here. :)

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                      Brisingr Aerowing
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                      I for one want a major class action against Microsoft for this. This is theft, as it steals bandwidth and hard drive space.

                      What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

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                        I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. They have approximately 30 PCs - where each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent. My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this. To boot - there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location. This is not good Microsoft.... not good.

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                        No indeed. I'm quite surprised Microsoft did this, they should know better. Chances are they will have to revert that again due to too many complaints. (fingers crossed)

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                          I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. They have approximately 30 PCs - where each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent. My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this. To boot - there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location. This is not good Microsoft.... not good.

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                          Lost User
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                          23741 wrote:

                          each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10

                          Not true. The user on each PC has to click on the GWX icon to start the download. I maintain a group of PCs for a small organisation, and all are still happily running Windows 7, and will continue to do so until we are ready to go to 10.

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                            I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. They have approximately 30 PCs - where each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent. My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this. To boot - there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location. This is not good Microsoft.... not good.

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                            den2k88
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                            They should block M$ from the firewalls, easy!

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                              I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. They have approximately 30 PCs - where each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent. My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this. To boot - there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location. This is not good Microsoft.... not good.

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                              GStrad
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                              Precisely why you should have auto update turned off on your PCs - if you have win 7 or 8 configured to just notify when important updates are waiting, you can go into optional updates and turn off the win10 download. That said you have to go and check this every time you download patches as windows repeatedly turns this download back on.

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                                Precisely why you should have auto update turned off on your PCs - if you have win 7 or 8 configured to just notify when important updates are waiting, you can go into optional updates and turn off the win10 download. That said you have to go and check this every time you download patches as windows repeatedly turns this download back on.

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                                den2k88
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                                I have PeerBlock, now *that* is a little piece of software that works ;) It blocks millions of IPs, including MS one. When you need you allow them for a while.

                                GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey

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                                  Disgusting and presumptuous behavior by MS! :mad:

                                  How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                                  ZurdoDev
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                                  Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                  Disgusting and presumptuous behavior by MS! :mad:

                                  Why? Most software auto updates. What's the big deal with that?

                                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                    I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. They have approximately 30 PCs - where each of these PCs were forced behind the scenes to download Windows 10 for installation - without the users consent. My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this. To boot - there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location. This is not good Microsoft.... not good.

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    23741 wrote:

                                    I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. ... there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location.

                                    The boneheaded prefetch move not withstanding (and this's why businesses should be running pro/enterprise and using WSUS instead of windows update), they're one of the groups that'd benefit the most from a W10 upgrade. Configure it to share patches on the lan using P2P and they'll only have to download them once instead of 30 times even if they continue to leave updating in consumer mode.

                                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                      Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                      Disgusting and presumptuous behavior by MS! :mad:

                                      Why? Most software auto updates. What's the big deal with that?

                                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                      The issue here is not auto update of software per se, but the fact that Microsoft downloads a massive new operating system, without the customer's consent, over metered Internet connections. This unauthorized download is costing some customers money. An expense they did not agree to! See this line in the opening message of this thread:

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                                      My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this

                                      How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                                        23741 wrote:

                                        I just heard from a client where they have a very bad internet connection due to their location where their data cap is somewhat restrictive. ... there are no plans to update to Windows 10 at this location.

                                        The boneheaded prefetch move not withstanding (and this's why businesses should be running pro/enterprise and using WSUS instead of windows update), they're one of the groups that'd benefit the most from a W10 upgrade. Configure it to share patches on the lan using P2P and they'll only have to download them once instead of 30 times even if they continue to leave updating in consumer mode.

                                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                        9082365
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                                        Dan Neely wrote:

                                        Configure it to share patches on the lan using P2P and they'll only have to download them once instead of 30 times

                                        Exactly the point I was trying to make earlier. I couldn't work out why, especially with a poor connection, you would have 30 computers each independently updating. Contributory negligence and all that!

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                                          The issue here is not auto update of software per se, but the fact that Microsoft downloads a massive new operating system, without the customer's consent, over metered Internet connections. This unauthorized download is costing some customers money. An expense they did not agree to! See this line in the opening message of this thread:

                                          Quote:

                                          My client just got her internet bill for the month - data usage is up 300 percent and she is now responsible to pay for this

                                          How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                          This unauthorized download is costing some customers money.

                                          Yes, I got that from the OP. I've seen many people, including in this thread, claim that auto update itself is a terrible thing. I thought you were referring to auto update in general and not just this specific instance. My mistake for misunderstanding.

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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