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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home

    My Epson printer (BX305FW) has fax built in. Never connected it to a phone line though! :laugh: It's possibly not that the software hasn't been updated to modern platforms, but that the software stopped selling so they didn't update it. Then just kept in on the website to add to the portfolio. Costs nothing to keep an old page live... Plus, isn't Idaho about ten years behind the rest of 'Murica anyway? :laugh:

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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    Idaho

    Idaho is awesome. No traffic, no crowds, beautiful landscape. Not much warm weather though. And all the potatoes you could ever want.

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      Idaho

      Idaho is awesome. No traffic, no crowds, beautiful landscape. Not much warm weather though. And all the potatoes you could ever want.

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      RyanDev wrote:

      And all the potatoes you could ever want.

      As long as you're not picky about their quality. An acquaintance of mine who left the state recently said one of the best things about moving was that he could actually get good potatoes again; all that was available locally were QC rejects that weren't sellable anywhere else.

      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        Idaho

        Idaho is awesome. No traffic, no crowds, beautiful landscape. Not much warm weather though. And all the potatoes you could ever want.

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        RyanDev wrote:

        all the potatoes you could ever want.

        That is a much smaller number than you might think! :laugh:

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          RyanDev wrote:

          And all the potatoes you could ever want.

          As long as you're not picky about their quality. An acquaintance of mine who left the state recently said one of the best things about moving was that he could actually get good potatoes again; all that was available locally were QC rejects that weren't sellable anywhere else.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          ZurdoDev
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          Dan Neely wrote:

          all that was available locally were QC rejects that weren't sellable anywhere else.

          :laugh: That's what I found when I lived in Mexico. The worst looking tomato in the supermarket of America is better than the best looking tomato in Mexico's stores. They said it was because they sent all their good stuff to America. That's one reason they don't like America much. :sigh:

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            RyanDev wrote:

            all the potatoes you could ever want.

            That is a much smaller number than you might think! :laugh:

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            ZurdoDev
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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            That is a much smaller number than you might think!

            I'm worried that you actually calculated the value and have an exact number. :^)

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              RyanDev wrote:

              all the potatoes you could ever want.

              That is a much smaller number than you might think! :laugh:

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              Tim Carmichael
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              OriginalGriff wrote:

              That is a much smaller number than you might think!

              Agreed... I am NOT a meat and potatoes fan; meat, yes, potatoes.. rather have rice.

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                scottgp
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                It could be worse - at least a few of the companies I've worked for aren't in existence anymore. Same thing for much of the software I worked with. Scott

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  jsc42
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                  You should not feel disappointed. You should feel proud. Your software was obviously so good that it has not needed significant changes in all this time. That is a rare sign of quality.

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.

                    In my experience, this is common with financial software, especially products that perform tax calculations.  The fear of regression failures enountered when moving to a newer platform usually overshadows common sense that could lead to a well planned and well architected migration. /ravi

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      If it was me, I'd take it as meaning that what I wrote years ago is still irreplaceable.

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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        That is a much smaller number than you might think!

                        Agreed... I am NOT a meat and potatoes fan; meat, yes, potatoes.. rather have rice.

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                        Get thee behind me, Satan!

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                          Dan Neely wrote:

                          all that was available locally were QC rejects that weren't sellable anywhere else.

                          :laugh: That's what I found when I lived in Mexico. The worst looking tomato in the supermarket of America is better than the best looking tomato in Mexico's stores. They said it was because they sent all their good stuff to America. That's one reason they don't like America much. :sigh:

                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          RyanDev wrote:

                          That's one reason they don't like America much.

                          Then stop doing it. It's not rocket science.

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                            RyanDev wrote:

                            That's one reason they don't like America much.

                            Then stop doing it. It's not rocket science.

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            harold aptroot wrote:

                            Then stop doing it. It's not rocket science.

                            Stop buying the best produce available? OK. I'll stop.

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                              OriginalGriff wrote:

                              That is a much smaller number than you might think!

                              Agreed... I am NOT a meat and potatoes fan; meat, yes, potatoes.. rather have rice.

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                              I love rice, but alas, I am diabetic and if I have to have starch then the 'tatoes are better than rice for sugar spikes.

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                                Get thee behind me, Satan!

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                                Tim Carmichael
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                                I can, and will, eat raw potatoes, but the texture once they're cooked... if I try to eat them, anything that preceeded them is coming back to meet them. So, I just largely avoid potatoes.

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                                  harold aptroot wrote:

                                  Then stop doing it. It's not rocket science.

                                  Stop buying the best produce available? OK. I'll stop.

                                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  Thanks.

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    Joe Woodbury
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                                    At least it's around. Most of the companies I've worked for have ceased to exist. A few still exist, but have either dropped the products I worked on or rewrote those products (in one case to disastrous results.) (The embedded stuff I worked on and am working on now has much more sticking power.)

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                                      I love rice, but alas, I am diabetic and if I have to have starch then the 'tatoes are better than rice for sugar spikes.

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                                      Slacker007 wrote:

                                      I love rice, but alas, I am diabetic and if I have to have starch then the 'tatoes are better than rice for sugar spikes.

                                      Is Basmati rice any better for you? Lower GI, but not sure if good enough.

                                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                        Slacker007 wrote:

                                        I love rice, but alas, I am diabetic and if I have to have starch then the 'tatoes are better than rice for sugar spikes.

                                        Is Basmati rice any better for you? Lower GI, but not sure if good enough.

                                        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                        Slacker007
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                                        Michael Martin wrote:

                                        Is Basmati rice any better for you?

                                        Not sure, I would have to check. I do love good Basmati rice - one of my favorites. Of course, not all rice is created equal. The brown and long-grain wild rices are a bit lower in carbs than the white rices, but not by much on average. I still have rice, just not as much as I would like. :sigh: Edit: I think I can have a little more than I thought, basmati rice, that is: http://www.livestrong.com/article/360955-basmati-rice-as-a-diabetic-food/[^]

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          Roger Wright
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                                          I'm not surprised at all, but I'm really disappointed in them. I've worked for companies who were locked in to such products and couldn't afford to start over. Failing to keep critical software up to date shortchanges both the developer and the users. Since you're intimately familiar with the product, why not update it yourself and approach your former customers with an offer they can't afford to ignore? There are worse ways to fund your retirement... ;)

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

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