A Little Disappointed
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I was sitting here wondering how it could be improved with WPF/C#, and started looking to see what it's current status was. If they did it right, it only takes them a month or so to update it for the new tax laws, so I'm willing to bet that they don't have more than one or two permanent programmers working on it. When I was there, we had three guys. Whey they bought it, they had 4 guys in Idaho, and kept the three we already had (counting me). I guess when their four guys were comfortable with the code, the decided to cut the original developers loose (I was the only one given the option to move to Idaho, because I had the most tribal knowledge). :|
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I was the only one given the option to move to Idaho
Was that supposed to be a benefit? :sigh:
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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I was sitting here wondering how it could be improved with WPF/C#, and started looking to see what it's current status was. If they did it right, it only takes them a month or so to update it for the new tax laws, so I'm willing to bet that they don't have more than one or two permanent programmers working on it. When I was there, we had three guys. Whey they bought it, they had 4 guys in Idaho, and kept the three we already had (counting me). I guess when their four guys were comfortable with the code, the decided to cut the original developers loose (I was the only one given the option to move to Idaho, because I had the most tribal knowledge). :|
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Idaho isn't bad, John, despite the inbreeding. Some good software has come out of that state, I assume because there's damned little to do in their 9 month winter but stay indoors and code. Once upon a time I bought an accounting program developed in Idaho by Cougar Mountain Software, called ACT. It was a full implementation of all that I ever learned about Accounting, including T-ledgers and audit trails and infinite reporting on any silly thing that might pique an auditor's twisted interest; it could manage up to 9,999 companies, and cost $99.00. It wasn't user friendly, and it didn't have a cute GUI to help guide the stupid to knowledge, but it worked flawlessly and was wonderfully affordable. Go build it, John, and they will come. Heck, if you include a decent inventory management module, I'll buy it. OT- Where are you in Texas, approximately speaking? I'm planning a trip down Waco way next April, to meet with a bunch of other firearms enthusiasts, but it would be a pleasure to include a visit with you while I'm in the neighborhood, if we can arrange it.
Will Rogers never met me.
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I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.
They're waiting for you to come back??? :doh:
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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Dan Neely wrote:
all that was available locally were QC rejects that weren't sellable anywhere else.
:laugh: That's what I found when I lived in Mexico. The worst looking tomato in the supermarket of America is better than the best looking tomato in Mexico's stores. They said it was because they sent all their good stuff to America. That's one reason they don't like America much. :sigh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Funny, in Hungary it's the other way around. If you go to the local markets, the local produce is always way better then anything you'll get in the supermarkets.
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harold aptroot wrote:
Then stop doing it. It's not rocket science.
Stop buying the best produce available? OK. I'll stop.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Having moved to the USA a couple of years ago I would challenge that the supermarkets get the "best" produce. What the American public are provided with are the largest and most regular shaped products. These are very rarely the "best". I am sick and tired of apples and peaches the size of footballs and almost as spherical but which have no flavor and hideous mealy texture. I actively hunt out locally grown produce at farmers markets and will buy an ugly fruit or vegetable any/every day over the dreadful waste products source by the US food industry.
www.it-workplace.com
"If a man speaks in a forest where there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?" -
Having moved to the USA a couple of years ago I would challenge that the supermarkets get the "best" produce. What the American public are provided with are the largest and most regular shaped products. These are very rarely the "best". I am sick and tired of apples and peaches the size of footballs and almost as spherical but which have no flavor and hideous mealy texture. I actively hunt out locally grown produce at farmers markets and will buy an ugly fruit or vegetable any/every day over the dreadful waste products source by the US food industry.
www.it-workplace.com
"If a man speaks in a forest where there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?" -
I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Been there, and it is disappointing to see all your hard work stalled but marketed like that. We work on these projects and code to the best of our abilities, but you can't expect non-coders to begin to understand what it takes to do this stuff. They just look at selling it and making money. In the end you take what learned from the project and build on that in subsequent projects. It's all a learning experience...
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Idaho isn't bad, John, despite the inbreeding. Some good software has come out of that state, I assume because there's damned little to do in their 9 month winter but stay indoors and code. Once upon a time I bought an accounting program developed in Idaho by Cougar Mountain Software, called ACT. It was a full implementation of all that I ever learned about Accounting, including T-ledgers and audit trails and infinite reporting on any silly thing that might pique an auditor's twisted interest; it could manage up to 9,999 companies, and cost $99.00. It wasn't user friendly, and it didn't have a cute GUI to help guide the stupid to knowledge, but it worked flawlessly and was wonderfully affordable. Go build it, John, and they will come. Heck, if you include a decent inventory management module, I'll buy it. OT- Where are you in Texas, approximately speaking? I'm planning a trip down Waco way next April, to meet with a bunch of other firearms enthusiasts, but it would be a pleasure to include a visit with you while I'm in the neighborhood, if we can arrange it.
Will Rogers never met me.
I'm in San Antonio, so it's about 3 hours north of me.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Having moved to the USA a couple of years ago I would challenge that the supermarkets get the "best" produce. What the American public are provided with are the largest and most regular shaped products. These are very rarely the "best". I am sick and tired of apples and peaches the size of footballs and almost as spherical but which have no flavor and hideous mealy texture. I actively hunt out locally grown produce at farmers markets and will buy an ugly fruit or vegetable any/every day over the dreadful waste products source by the US food industry.
www.it-workplace.com
"If a man speaks in a forest where there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?" -
I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013If it ain't broke, why fix it?
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I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Don't be disappointed, it means you did well. While I believe most software should be re-envisioned every few years, sometimes you hit the mark. I left a company, they sold the DOS product. The buyer QUADRUPLED the price, lost 15% of the customers because of increased maintenance, and changed NOTHING in the code for a few years. They were printing money, eventually the demand died out, and it went away (along with DOS in general). Think of the old VW Bug. Mexico brought it back to life. Easy to repair, simple parts. Why change it? BTW, I have a FAX at home. And I just used it last week to obtain a permit (govt is always behind the times, LOL).
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In USA, "soccer balls" are spherical. "footballs" are like pointy rugby balls. :-D I am with you on the taste/texture factor. Our few home grown fruits are too puny for the supermarkets, but they taste great!
Yes, and that is another thing they have wrong!
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"If a man speaks in a forest where there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?" -
I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013At least they are still selling it. One company I was working at, after three years of really hard work and overtime by a half-dozen people, creating an innovative product that linked C, COBOL, Assembly and SmallTalk was purchased by a larger company as an "agent of change". We had paying customers. The company that bought us PAID THEM OFF TO STOP USING THE PRODUCT! A strong lesson in how much your work is really appreciated and just little overtime is really justified (outside of an explosion in space and dying astronauts, of course).
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I'm in San Antonio, so it's about 3 hours north of me.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013That's certainly doable. I'll contact you when the date is known for sure...
Will Rogers never met me.
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RyanDev wrote:
That's one reason they don't like America much.
Then stop doing it. It's not rocket science.
There's also millions of those folks coming over illegally. Must be after the good tomatoes they're sending here.
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I worked for a small software company for over 12 years, developing Windows-based estate planning software using C++/MFC, and a bigger company bought us out in 1998. When they decided to move development of the software from San Diego to Idaho (in 2000), I quit, and moved to Texas because I've been to Idaho, and I wasn't impressed. Out of curiosity, I googled to see if the software was still being sold. It is, but it still looks like it did back in the mid-90's. The forms have been updated to reflect new features, the company is still using screen shots that were made back when Windows XP was still popular, and they still talk about faxing stuff to your clients (I don't know anyone that even has fax capabilities in their home). The price of the software has also almost tripled since this company bought the company I worked for. Every year, they have to update the code to reflect tax law changes (both federal and state-by-state), and it looks like that's all they've been doing for the last 15 years. There was at one point almost a million lines of code in this app. I'm kinda surprised the software is still being sold, but I'm disappointed they haven't kept up with more modern platforms.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Another way of looking at it is that is a testament to the effort and skill of the software developers.
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RyanDev wrote:
And all the potatoes you could ever want.
As long as you're not picky about their quality. An acquaintance of mine who left the state recently said one of the best things about moving was that he could actually get good potatoes again; all that was available locally were QC rejects that weren't sellable anywhere else.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Well, the same thing happens all over. New Zealand has more sheep per capita than any other country (they thrive in Middle Earth's lush pastures). But you can't get a decent lamb chop - the best ones all go to Japan, where they have become besotted with el-primo lamb. And Tasmania is covered with millions of Apple trees - but only the export rejects are for sale locally.
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That's certainly doable. I'll contact you when the date is known for sure...
Will Rogers never met me.
