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  • K Kevin Marois

    Here[^] "Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is set to unveil a sweeping gun control proposal Monday that would include closing the "gun show loophole" and allowing victims of gun violence to sue firearm manufacturers." Does that mean I can sue a car manufacturer if a drunk drier hits me? Another stupid knee-jerk reaction to gun violence that will have no effect.

    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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    Lost User
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    How much arms are the US exporting? :)

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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      How much arms are the US exporting? :)

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      Who in the U.S. cares? For the most part, the exported guns don't kill Americans.

      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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        Who in the U.S. cares? For the most part, the exported guns don't kill Americans.

        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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        Corporal Agarn
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        Actually some do. Remember fast and furious. (Guns to drug lords)

        Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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          Actually some do. Remember fast and furious. (Guns to drug lords)

          Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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          Kevin Marois
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          Fast & Furious wasn't exported guns.. at least not legally. It was the BATF sending guns to Mexico to discredit the NRA/Gun Owners/Gun Culture.

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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          • K Kevin Marois

            Here[^] "Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is set to unveil a sweeping gun control proposal Monday that would include closing the "gun show loophole" and allowing victims of gun violence to sue firearm manufacturers." Does that mean I can sue a car manufacturer if a drunk drier hits me? Another stupid knee-jerk reaction to gun violence that will have no effect.

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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            F ES Sitecore
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            Kevin Marois wrote:

            Does that mean I can sue a car manufacturer if a drunk drier hits me?

            Paul Walker's daughter seems to think so.

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            • K Kevin Marois

              Here[^] "Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is set to unveil a sweeping gun control proposal Monday that would include closing the "gun show loophole" and allowing victims of gun violence to sue firearm manufacturers." Does that mean I can sue a car manufacturer if a drunk drier hits me? Another stupid knee-jerk reaction to gun violence that will have no effect.

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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              Power Puff Boy
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              The car-gun-analogy doesn't work, here's why: To drive a car you need to prove you're able to do so by taking a test. Any idiot person can by a gun without proof of the ability how it's to be handled.

              Kitty at my foot and I waAAAant to touch it...

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              • K Kevin Marois

                Here[^] "Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is set to unveil a sweeping gun control proposal Monday that would include closing the "gun show loophole" and allowing victims of gun violence to sue firearm manufacturers." Does that mean I can sue a car manufacturer if a drunk drier hits me? Another stupid knee-jerk reaction to gun violence that will have no effect.

                If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                Slacker007
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                Kevin Marois wrote:

                Another stupid knee-jerk reaction to gun violence that will have no effect.

                :thumbsup:

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                • P Power Puff Boy

                  The car-gun-analogy doesn't work, here's why: To drive a car you need to prove you're able to do so by taking a test. Any idiot person can by a gun without proof of the ability how it's to be handled.

                  Kitty at my foot and I waAAAant to touch it...

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                  Slacker007
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                  Power Puff Boy wrote:

                  proof of the ability how it's to be handled.

                  that doesn't work either. You can prove you know how to shoot a gun and handle a gun. Then 3 weeks later, that person kills 9 people, and then themselves. What studies are starting to show is that "some" of these people should have been institutionalized for life, and could have been done a long time ago. However, we have no laws or checks and balances for bat shit crazy people in this country.

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                    Power Puff Boy wrote:

                    proof of the ability how it's to be handled.

                    that doesn't work either. You can prove you know how to shoot a gun and handle a gun. Then 3 weeks later, that person kills 9 people, and then themselves. What studies are starting to show is that "some" of these people should have been institutionalized for life, and could have been done a long time ago. However, we have no laws or checks and balances for bat shit crazy people in this country.

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                    Corporal Agarn
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                    Actually there are now guidelines (if not laws) that say we cannot lock people up for being "different". Who can it be now?

                    Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                      Actually there are now guidelines (if not laws) that say we cannot lock people up for being "different". Who can it be now?

                      Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                      Slacker007
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                      Good point. Very dangerous territory, defining "different" from bat shit "shoot everyone in the theatre" crazy. However, I think we (America) need to dedicate some serious recon into this path of action. I should not have to give up my guns because of my bat shit crazy neighbor's actions.

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        Here[^] "Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is set to unveil a sweeping gun control proposal Monday that would include closing the "gun show loophole" and allowing victims of gun violence to sue firearm manufacturers." Does that mean I can sue a car manufacturer if a drunk drier hits me? Another stupid knee-jerk reaction to gun violence that will have no effect.

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                        MarkTJohnson
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                        Can I sue a match company if my house catches fire?

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                        • K Kevin Marois

                          Here[^] "Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is set to unveil a sweeping gun control proposal Monday that would include closing the "gun show loophole" and allowing victims of gun violence to sue firearm manufacturers." Does that mean I can sue a car manufacturer if a drunk drier hits me? Another stupid knee-jerk reaction to gun violence that will have no effect.

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                          Vivi Chellappa
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                          But people are allowed to sue cigarette manufacturers. By that logic, if someone produces a product which can cause injury/death to people, we should be able to sue him. PS. Is there any purpose to which a handgun could be put that doesn't cause injury or death? Target shooting is merely practice for shooting at people.

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                          • V Vivi Chellappa

                            But people are allowed to sue cigarette manufacturers. By that logic, if someone produces a product which can cause injury/death to people, we should be able to sue him. PS. Is there any purpose to which a handgun could be put that doesn't cause injury or death? Target shooting is merely practice for shooting at people.

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                            Corporal Agarn
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                            You could hunt with it. :laugh: But you need to be close.

                            Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                            • V Vivi Chellappa

                              But people are allowed to sue cigarette manufacturers. By that logic, if someone produces a product which can cause injury/death to people, we should be able to sue him. PS. Is there any purpose to which a handgun could be put that doesn't cause injury or death? Target shooting is merely practice for shooting at people.

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                              Slacker007
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                              Vivic wrote:

                              Target shooting is merely practice for shooting at people.

                              That is the dumbest thing I have heard in quite some time.

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                                Good point. Very dangerous territory, defining "different" from bat shit "shoot everyone in the theatre" crazy. However, I think we (America) need to dedicate some serious recon into this path of action. I should not have to give up my guns because of my bat shit crazy neighbor's actions.

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                                Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                                Slacker007 wrote:

                                I should not have to give up my guns because of my bat sh*t crazy neighbor's actions.

                                Indeed, indeed! Bat shít crazy neighbours would demand owning a gun or two. Cheers!

                                "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                                Ron White, Comedian

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                                  Slacker007 wrote:

                                  I should not have to give up my guns because of my bat sh*t crazy neighbor's actions.

                                  Indeed, indeed! Bat shít crazy neighbours would demand owning a gun or two. Cheers!

                                  "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                                  Ron White, Comedian

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                                  Slacker007
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                                  Are citizens of Germany allowed to own guns?

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                                    Are citizens of Germany allowed to own guns?

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                                    super
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                                    Only rifle for hunting purpose. And for guns in general, Yes only on case by case basis if there is a valid reason

                                    cheers,

                                    Super

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                                      Are citizens of Germany allowed to own guns?

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                                      Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                                      There is quite some buerocratic overhead involved (a massive understatement) to even just own a gun here in Germany, let alone carry one. Actually anything which can be used as a weapon is regulated by German Law. You can browse it here to your hearts content: Weapons Act (WaffG)[^] Cheers!

                                      "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                                      Ron White, Comedian

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                                      • M Manfred Rudolf Bihy

                                        There is quite some buerocratic overhead involved (a massive understatement) to even just own a gun here in Germany, let alone carry one. Actually anything which can be used as a weapon is regulated by German Law. You can browse it here to your hearts content: Weapons Act (WaffG)[^] Cheers!

                                        "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                                        Ron White, Comedian

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                                        Slacker007
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                                        I already researched Germany's gun laws after my reply to you.

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                                        • S Slacker007

                                          I already researched Germany's gun laws after my reply to you.

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                                          Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                                          Well, I hope you enjoyed it! ;P

                                          "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                                          Ron White, Comedian

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