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For The Love Of God, Please Let Me Override Your Method

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  • S Smart K8

    .NET framework are the third-party libraries. :-\

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Nope; second-party.

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      Nope; second-party.

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      Smart K8
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      You're first-part and second-party is your client (or target audience). ;)

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        Nope; second-party.

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        ZurdoDev
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        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        Nope; second-party.

        Third party. Second party. Who cares? Working with .Net is a party!!!! Yoohooo!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        • Z ZurdoDev

          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          Nope; second-party.

          Third party. Second party. Who cares? Working with .Net is a party!!!! Yoohooo!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          OriginalGriff
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          If it was a party, there would be girls here! :sigh:

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

            Nope; second-party.

            Third party. Second party. Who cares? Working with .Net is a party!!!! Yoohooo!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            Kenneth Haugland
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            Fun Fun Fun![^] :laugh:

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              If it was a party, there would be girls here! :sigh:

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              Lost User
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              I fully agree ;P :laugh:

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                If it was a party, there would be girls here! :sigh:

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                Smart K8
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                AddUsersToRole(women, partyGoers) :D

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                • S Smart K8

                  You're first-part and second-party is your client (or target audience). ;)

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  I'm the first-party; the tools/framework/platform I choose to work on are second-party; any tools that help work with those tools are third-party. Any clients or potential customers would be the zeroth party.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    If it was a party, there would be girls here! :sigh:

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    You're thinking of the after-hours party.

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                    • S Smart K8

                      AddUsersToRole(women, partyGoers) :D

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                      Jeff Buxton
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                      Exception.GirlsNotFound

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                      • R Robert Vandenberg Huang

                        I've received hundred of enterprise libraries directly depending on other third-parties. Do I have to include log4net just because I need to use your library? Do I have to register an unknown unmanaged DLL as a part of my project output just because your code needs to access a system setting? For the love of god, and world peace, please do not make your library directly depend on third-party components. Do let your users override them.

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                        Wonde Tadesse
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                        Quote:

                        Do I have to include log4net just because I need to use your library?

                        Do as the spec says.

                        Wonde Tadesse

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                        • J Jeff Buxton

                          Exception.GirlsNotFound

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                          Smart K8
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                          Oh boy. :doh:

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                          • R Robert Vandenberg Huang

                            I've received hundred of enterprise libraries directly depending on other third-parties. Do I have to include log4net just because I need to use your library? Do I have to register an unknown unmanaged DLL as a part of my project output just because your code needs to access a system setting? For the love of god, and world peace, please do not make your library directly depend on third-party components. Do let your users override them.

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                            Jeremy Falcon
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                            Oh wait, but .NET was supposed to end DLL hell.

                            Jeremy Falcon

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                            • J Jeremy Falcon

                              Oh wait, but .NET was supposed to end DLL hell.

                              Jeremy Falcon

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              GAC!

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                Use of third-party libraries is a cry for help. Plus, libraries shouldn't log. They should just throw Exceptions and the application can log or otherwise do what it likes with them. Another possibility would be for the library to provide an Event that it calls when it encounters something interesting but not fatal.

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                                newton saber
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                                Good points. Good you point these out. We just want the functionality the library provides not all the overhead.

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                                • K Kenneth Haugland

                                  Fun Fun Fun![^] :laugh:

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                                  newton saber
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                                  That is a great tune. Thanks for sharing. Amazing singer and an amazing song. No one else like her.

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                                    That is a great tune. Thanks for sharing. Amazing singer and an amazing song. No one else like her.

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                                    Kenneth Haugland
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                                    Its seen 80 million times, and has 1,6 million downvotes, and 600 thousand upvotes :laugh:

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                                      Its seen 80 million times, and has 1,6 million downvotes, and 600 thousand upvotes :laugh:

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                                      newton saber
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                                      Those numbers only prove that the song is True Art. Everyone loves pop music, which we all know isn't art. But, this has been viewed 80 million times. That forces it to the top of True Art. Everyone else is just a poser & hopeful copier of this great artist. :)

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        Use of third-party libraries is a cry for help. Plus, libraries shouldn't log. They should just throw Exceptions and the application can log or otherwise do what it likes with them. Another possibility would be for the library to provide an Event that it calls when it encounters something interesting but not fatal.

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                                        John Torjo
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                                        "plus, libraries shouldn't log" I don't think this is a realistic assumption. Libraries can have bugs too. In case a bug happens, they would want to know what led to it -> thus, logging. And more to the point, when an error happens in your application - libraries can have huge APIs, complex usage scenarios - in such a case, you + the lib's authors would probably want to know: is there an error in the lib, in your code, both? Without logging, this would be much more complicated. Best, John -- LogWizard - Log viewing can be a joy!

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                                        • N newton saber

                                          Those numbers only prove that the song is True Art. Everyone loves pop music, which we all know isn't art. But, this has been viewed 80 million times. That forces it to the top of True Art. Everyone else is just a poser & hopeful copier of this great artist. :)

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                                          MKJCP
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                                          It's almost as good as a vid of a cat chasing string. Who is this Art guy?

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