The quality of Apple Software. Again.
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I've spent a day trying to transfer an apple machine from my old laptop to a less old iMac. I try to "Restore from Time Machine" but it keeps saying the time machine disk is in use. It's always in use. I have to resort to physically unplugging the time machine just to ensure that it's not being locked - even though the only machine using it is unplugged. I get it started. 40hrs to transfer, so I ditch the WiFi and switched to ethernet. And then had to reboot everything to get it to connect to the ethernet port. Overnight it transfers and everything's fine - except it's not. iPhoto thinks that I've not synced a single photo from my iPhone and so wants to sync everything again. I try and sync with iTunes and iTunes suddenly doesn't know anything about Photos - it keeps wanting to sync with Aperture (you know - that app that's been killed off and replaced by Photos?). So update, reboot, update - while constantly - never-endingly - entering my iCloud password and iMac password every single time. The irony kills me[^]. Except it doesn't actually seem to remember my password. So I just keep adding it, and OK'ing and on we go. The El Capitan update was interupted when I switched from Wifi to Ethernet and it never resumed - just sat their "Waiting" - even after I rebooted (downloaded the installer onto a separate machine and then manually updated. The main issue is that it's not smooth. Not even vaguely. I'm constantly back-tracking and trying new ways to get something done. Updates aren't working and I get "This item isn't available at this time" so I wait, reboot, do something else, try again. Connecting to remote disks is beyond painfully slow. Reboots take forever. Getting updates is hit and miss. And then I switch to my Windows 10 machine and it all just works. Very, very quickly, very smoothly. I used to dread setting up Windows machines and love setting up Macs - and now it's totally opposite. The Mac experience due to their software and inability to handle networking and timeouts sensibly is just beyond painful. I'm on the Latest And Greatest Apple OSs on everything, and it's all just not working. I'm only really on Mac's because the hardware is so nice and so fast. I enjoy switching to MacOS, and in some cases need to (eg synching my iDevices). Maybe it's time to admit it's just not working and break up. That Surface 4 is looking mig
Chris Maunder wrote:
I used to dread setting up Windows machines and love setting up Macs - and now it's totally opposite.
What happens is all the code monkeys bloat one place to failure... and the other rises. The failing location has layoffs and all the code monkeys switch ship. Only the best are retained, and the software company turns out great product, while the code monkeys bloat the competition to failure. So what happens is all the code monkeys bloat the one place to failure... while the other side rises. The failing location has layoffs and all the code monkeys switch ship. Only the best are retained, and the software company turns out great product, while the code monkeys bloat the competition to failure. Then what happens is all the code monkeys bloat the one place to failure... while the other side rises. The failing location has layoffs and all the code monkeys switch ship. Only the best are retained, and the software company turns out great product, while the code monkeys bloat the competition to failure. ...
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You need to tell him not to open the attachments sent from anyone he does not know (I was going to mention some of the senders I get but there are 53 of them this morning)!!!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
You need to tell him...
No. No I don't. Just like I don't need to tell Chris how to operate his computers.
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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I've spent a day trying to transfer an apple machine from my old laptop to a less old iMac. I try to "Restore from Time Machine" but it keeps saying the time machine disk is in use. It's always in use. I have to resort to physically unplugging the time machine just to ensure that it's not being locked - even though the only machine using it is unplugged. I get it started. 40hrs to transfer, so I ditch the WiFi and switched to ethernet. And then had to reboot everything to get it to connect to the ethernet port. Overnight it transfers and everything's fine - except it's not. iPhoto thinks that I've not synced a single photo from my iPhone and so wants to sync everything again. I try and sync with iTunes and iTunes suddenly doesn't know anything about Photos - it keeps wanting to sync with Aperture (you know - that app that's been killed off and replaced by Photos?). So update, reboot, update - while constantly - never-endingly - entering my iCloud password and iMac password every single time. The irony kills me[^]. Except it doesn't actually seem to remember my password. So I just keep adding it, and OK'ing and on we go. The El Capitan update was interupted when I switched from Wifi to Ethernet and it never resumed - just sat their "Waiting" - even after I rebooted (downloaded the installer onto a separate machine and then manually updated. The main issue is that it's not smooth. Not even vaguely. I'm constantly back-tracking and trying new ways to get something done. Updates aren't working and I get "This item isn't available at this time" so I wait, reboot, do something else, try again. Connecting to remote disks is beyond painfully slow. Reboots take forever. Getting updates is hit and miss. And then I switch to my Windows 10 machine and it all just works. Very, very quickly, very smoothly. I used to dread setting up Windows machines and love setting up Macs - and now it's totally opposite. The Mac experience due to their software and inability to handle networking and timeouts sensibly is just beyond painful. I'm on the Latest And Greatest Apple OSs on everything, and it's all just not working. I'm only really on Mac's because the hardware is so nice and so fast. I enjoy switching to MacOS, and in some cases need to (eg synching my iDevices). Maybe it's time to admit it's just not working and break up. That Surface 4 is looking mig
I did downloaded an update on OSX (no, not the new el capitan): it took about 10 HOURS !!! to download 1.3 gig. It was so slow I first thought something was wrong with my internet connection, so I downloaded a full edition of SQL Server from MSDN: that took me about 15 minutes. So I started looking around the internet what could be wrong and to my surprise most fan-boys said it was normal. Anyway, I wondered: do you use your mac for windows development? And if so, do you use it in a dual boot setup, or with parallels desktop?
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
You need to tell him...
No. No I don't. Just like I don't need to tell Chris how to operate his computers.
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
Somebody does need to tell him, apparently. This has nothing to do with Windows.
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I did downloaded an update on OSX (no, not the new el capitan): it took about 10 HOURS !!! to download 1.3 gig. It was so slow I first thought something was wrong with my internet connection, so I downloaded a full edition of SQL Server from MSDN: that took me about 15 minutes. So I started looking around the internet what could be wrong and to my surprise most fan-boys said it was normal. Anyway, I wondered: do you use your mac for windows development? And if so, do you use it in a dual boot setup, or with parallels desktop?
Never had the 10-hour experience before, so not sure how 'normal' it is. When a new OS releases, it can be slow if you try to get it on release day, but not 10 hours slow. At least, not in my experience. The latest XCode was a more than 3GB download, and only took about 15 minutes. So, no, I don't really think that is 'normal'. Yes, dual boot, and with parallels desktop. Mainly got a Mac because I am now doing iOS development, but still am a .NET programmer.
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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Never had the 10-hour experience before, so not sure how 'normal' it is. When a new OS releases, it can be slow if you try to get it on release day, but not 10 hours slow. At least, not in my experience. The latest XCode was a more than 3GB download, and only took about 15 minutes. So, no, I don't really think that is 'normal'. Yes, dual boot, and with parallels desktop. Mainly got a Mac because I am now doing iOS development, but still am a .NET programmer.
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
Same here, only I configured it as a dual boot setup. Are you using visual studio in parallels desktop and if so, are you happy with it? I'm considering using parallels desktop for all my .NET development, but i'm not sure about the experience during development.
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Same here, only I configured it as a dual boot setup. Are you using visual studio in parallels desktop and if so, are you happy with it? I'm considering using parallels desktop for all my .NET development, but i'm not sure about the experience during development.
Both at work and home, I have parallels with Visual Studio. No trouble, has been running great for more than 2 years now. I did have to re-program some of the keyboard shortcuts at work, I use ReSharper and Mac keyboards don't have an 'Insert' key, which is used a lot with ReSharper. But, that's only a minor issue. At home I bought an external keyboard that does have an Insert key.
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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I've spent a day trying to transfer an apple machine from my old laptop to a less old iMac. I try to "Restore from Time Machine" but it keeps saying the time machine disk is in use. It's always in use. I have to resort to physically unplugging the time machine just to ensure that it's not being locked - even though the only machine using it is unplugged. I get it started. 40hrs to transfer, so I ditch the WiFi and switched to ethernet. And then had to reboot everything to get it to connect to the ethernet port. Overnight it transfers and everything's fine - except it's not. iPhoto thinks that I've not synced a single photo from my iPhone and so wants to sync everything again. I try and sync with iTunes and iTunes suddenly doesn't know anything about Photos - it keeps wanting to sync with Aperture (you know - that app that's been killed off and replaced by Photos?). So update, reboot, update - while constantly - never-endingly - entering my iCloud password and iMac password every single time. The irony kills me[^]. Except it doesn't actually seem to remember my password. So I just keep adding it, and OK'ing and on we go. The El Capitan update was interupted when I switched from Wifi to Ethernet and it never resumed - just sat their "Waiting" - even after I rebooted (downloaded the installer onto a separate machine and then manually updated. The main issue is that it's not smooth. Not even vaguely. I'm constantly back-tracking and trying new ways to get something done. Updates aren't working and I get "This item isn't available at this time" so I wait, reboot, do something else, try again. Connecting to remote disks is beyond painfully slow. Reboots take forever. Getting updates is hit and miss. And then I switch to my Windows 10 machine and it all just works. Very, very quickly, very smoothly. I used to dread setting up Windows machines and love setting up Macs - and now it's totally opposite. The Mac experience due to their software and inability to handle networking and timeouts sensibly is just beyond painful. I'm on the Latest And Greatest Apple OSs on everything, and it's all just not working. I'm only really on Mac's because the hardware is so nice and so fast. I enjoy switching to MacOS, and in some cases need to (eg synching my iDevices). Maybe it's time to admit it's just not working and break up. That Surface 4 is looking mig
I bought a MacBook Pro and then I fixed the only thing that was wrong with it. I installed Windows OS.
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I did downloaded an update on OSX (no, not the new el capitan): it took about 10 HOURS !!! to download 1.3 gig. It was so slow I first thought something was wrong with my internet connection, so I downloaded a full edition of SQL Server from MSDN: that took me about 15 minutes. So I started looking around the internet what could be wrong and to my surprise most fan-boys said it was normal. Anyway, I wondered: do you use your mac for windows development? And if so, do you use it in a dual boot setup, or with parallels desktop?
Yeah - slow downloads are crazy. Don't Apple have an iCloud thingy? I use my Macbook Air and iMac with Bootcamp. The iMac is so-so but the Macbook Air (with it's awesome SSD) is brilliant. Very very happy with it. (However, the Surface Pro 4 seems to be a way, way better machine. can't wait!)
cheers Chris Maunder
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<Insert sarcastic comment of choice here> I used to work as a network technician before going fulltime programming. It was BYOD that made me change ships fully. And I'm seeing most of the Apple commercials as deep irony. "It just works" - Until you're not following user case 1A, when it suddenly doesn't just work. There's a reason most people with Macs are using Bootcamp for actual work. And don't get me started on TimeMachine, it works perfectly fine, until you need it. It's flakier than iTunes.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
"It just works" - Until you're not following user case 1A, when it suddenly doesn't just work. Exactly. My use case is running the stuff on a Virtual Machine for development purposes, like on a real developer machine. It's taken me more than 6 months to get it to work, and only then by downloading a pirated version of MacOSX. The OS I paid good money for, just mysteriously doesn't work. Windows is a wet dream by comparison :).
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I bought a MacBook Pro and then I fixed the only thing that was wrong with it. I installed Windows OS.
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The mouse on the Macbook is identical to a Windows mouse (except right click is top click). The Function keys are the same as well. All your really missing is the windows key and print screen which you can perform with a key combination or the snippet tool.
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The mouse on the Macbook is identical to a Windows mouse (except right click is top click). The Function keys are the same as well. All your really missing is the windows key and print screen which you can perform with a key combination or the snippet tool.
What about the middle mouse button? On a conventional laptop, one can "enumlate3buttons", which allows you to press the middle mouse button on a conventional laptop by pressing both buttons together - not ideal, but OK in a pinch (ie lack of a real mouse). From what you describe, it looks like I'd need to play a game of "twister" on the mouse pad in order to do a middle-mouse drag operation, which I do often enough for it to get annoying. The issue about function keys is that on a typical Mac laptop in my experience, you have to press a "fn" modifier key to access them, which sort of defeats their purpose as general programmable keys. Not sure why you'd need a windows key. The only operating system I found a use for that key is Windows 8, and only then to pull up the start menu. That mode of operation was made obsolete by Windows 8.1 and now Windows 10.
