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  • D dandy72

    At this point they should just call it the Out of Control Panel.

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    Slacker007
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    dandy72 wrote:

    call it the Out of Control Panel.

    that too. :)

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Trying to remove McAfee from a friends lappy after upgrading, resetting, and upgrading again to win 10. And it should be easy, according to McAfee site (hah! Heard that before!) Just go to "Add and Remove Programs" in "Settings" and take it out. So...Windows 10. "Windows button", "Settings" - don't see it, so I'll search, using the Settings search box... Search "add" - "No results for add" Search "Add" - "No results for Add" Search "uni" (as the beginning of "uninstall") - and the first result is "Add or remove programs"... :doh: So...it's a search that only finds things if you look for completely different text? That's a bit surreal, even for MS!

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      Kiriander
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      I've been reaching this panel for years now using command-line fu. Press Win+R, type appwiz.cpl, hit Enter. Viola!

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        That's what I did - but it's the search results that are ... um ... a touch inconsistent... :laugh:

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        Mike Winiberg
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        Try finding all the SQL related stuff when you have SQL Express installed: typing "SQL" finds the SQL Server Management Studio, but not the SQL Serve Configuration Manager. However, once you've opened SSCM, then typing SQL finds it. There is something seriously wierd about the start menu search. It behaves similarly strangely if you search for windows update too...

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        • D dandy72

          I hasn't been called "Add/Remove Programs" since the XP days if I'm not mistaken. From Vista forward, it's called "Programs and features". When I hit Start and start typing "prog", it appears as the second entry (the first one being "Default Programs"). Then again, this whole mess is dynamic. When I start typing "uni", I don't get "App or remove programs" at all. If I type "unin", then I get "App and features", which is the Metro-fied uninstaller (which I had forgotten all about - yuck). Nobody can convince me that searching beats a well-organized menu. I have systems (fast systems) on which I can type the whole name of the shortcut, and I still have to wait a number of seconds after that for it to get displayed before I can click on it.

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          mtiede
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          Or you can just type "add remove" in the start menu or Cortana.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Trying to remove McAfee from a friends lappy after upgrading, resetting, and upgrading again to win 10. And it should be easy, according to McAfee site (hah! Heard that before!) Just go to "Add and Remove Programs" in "Settings" and take it out. So...Windows 10. "Windows button", "Settings" - don't see it, so I'll search, using the Settings search box... Search "add" - "No results for add" Search "Add" - "No results for Add" Search "uni" (as the beginning of "uninstall") - and the first result is "Add or remove programs"... :doh: So...it's a search that only finds things if you look for completely different text? That's a bit surreal, even for MS!

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            JoeSox
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            Yes. Windows 10 seems like it has a mind of its own. For some reason windows explorer will always be on top, so when I open new instances of windows explorer they go behind what I DON'T want to see. :doh: But yes Kaspersky 15 blew up when I upgraded my older i5 laptop and luckily I had a 16 license as they say its Win10 compliant.

            Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 - Last.fm - MyFriendfeed - CPForAndroid++

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            • K Kenneth Haugland

              Searching for items has never been Windows or Microsoft's strong site, just look at Bing. I remembered the first time I used that, and Search up MSDN, the first link was to a site with pictures of naked girls. :)

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              Lilith C
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              We've found that searches in Microsoft Outlook are often incomplete where you'd think that looking for a word in the subject should be simple to do.

              I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Trying to remove McAfee from a friends lappy after upgrading, resetting, and upgrading again to win 10. And it should be easy, according to McAfee site (hah! Heard that before!) Just go to "Add and Remove Programs" in "Settings" and take it out. So...Windows 10. "Windows button", "Settings" - don't see it, so I'll search, using the Settings search box... Search "add" - "No results for add" Search "Add" - "No results for Add" Search "uni" (as the beginning of "uninstall") - and the first result is "Add or remove programs"... :doh: So...it's a search that only finds things if you look for completely different text? That's a bit surreal, even for MS!

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                Mike Marynowski
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                Weird...it works for me. "Settings" in start menu search works (Settings [Trusted Windows Store App] comes up). Search "Add Remove" in start menu brings up "Add or Remove Programs" Search "add" inside settings (where it says "Search settings") shows "Add or remove programs" in the list. That said, Windows has a mind of its own often times, I have no doubt it wasn't working for you. Perhaps it was still indexing all the apps and such on the system? I know at the beginning after I installed Windows I saw it say that results might be incomplete until indexing is done somewhere.

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                • M Mike Marynowski

                  Weird...it works for me. "Settings" in start menu search works (Settings [Trusted Windows Store App] comes up). Search "Add Remove" in start menu brings up "Add or Remove Programs" Search "add" inside settings (where it says "Search settings") shows "Add or remove programs" in the list. That said, Windows has a mind of its own often times, I have no doubt it wasn't working for you. Perhaps it was still indexing all the apps and such on the system? I know at the beginning after I installed Windows I saw it say that results might be incomplete until indexing is done somewhere.

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  It does - but that isn't what I tried. Go into the "Settings" app, and use the search box there...it only finds "add or remove programs" if the search string contains none of the letters in the text... :laugh:

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    It does - but that isn't what I tried. Go into the "Settings" app, and use the search box there...it only finds "add or remove programs" if the search string contains none of the letters in the text... :laugh:

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    Mike Marynowski
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                    The third search I listed in my reply is inside the Settings app. It brings up "add or remove programs" if I type in any of those words.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Trying to remove McAfee from a friends lappy after upgrading, resetting, and upgrading again to win 10. And it should be easy, according to McAfee site (hah! Heard that before!) Just go to "Add and Remove Programs" in "Settings" and take it out. So...Windows 10. "Windows button", "Settings" - don't see it, so I'll search, using the Settings search box... Search "add" - "No results for add" Search "Add" - "No results for Add" Search "uni" (as the beginning of "uninstall") - and the first result is "Add or remove programs"... :doh: So...it's a search that only finds things if you look for completely different text? That's a bit surreal, even for MS!

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      patbob
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                      That's the problem with the whole concept of searching the file system to find the app you want -- you have to know what the developer called it before you can find it. Windows is a lot of things, but one of them is that its light years ahead of linux when it comes to naming applications. It sucks that you had to search for uninstall to find a tool for removing programs, but it could have been worse. Whatever giant snakes have to do with installing drivers, and musical genres have to do with file sharing, still eludes me.

                      We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                      • M mtiede

                        Or you can just type "add remove" in the start menu or Cortana.

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                        dandy72
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                        As far as I can tell this only brings up the metro-fied version of the uninstaller. I much prefer the 'traditional' one - it's much faster to get started and get the whole list than the metro abomination.

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                        • D dandy72

                          As far as I can tell this only brings up the metro-fied version of the uninstaller. I much prefer the 'traditional' one - it's much faster to get started and get the whole list than the metro abomination.

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                          mtiede
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                          Only took mine about 4 seconds to get the specific file I looked for to uninstall. But I wonder why the "new fangled" one takes even 4 seconds to load. Maybe because it is getting more information. Who knows.

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