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Coding - so what's a crime and whats a misdemeanor?

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    But then you have the same problem within the validation method. :laugh:

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    ZurdoDev
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    If it gets long, sure. But it aint hard to do right.

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      But then you have the same problem within the validation method. :laugh:

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      Plus, most people want to see all validation errors at once so you would want to do the whole method anyway. :^)

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        Plus, most people want to see all validation errors at once so you would want to do the whole method anyway. :^)

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        Lost User
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        ..sounds like a large method with multiple responsibilities. How about a class that simply checks one thing; and call that in a loop, adding to a resultset?

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          ..sounds like a large method with multiple responsibilities. How about a class that simply checks one thing; and call that in a loop, adding to a resultset?

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          ZurdoDev
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          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

          How about a class that simply checks one thing; and call that in a loop, adding to a resultset?

          How about we never work on the same code so there will be no problems. ;)

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          • L Lost User

            So, when do you use Systems Hungarian? Or worse, Apps Hungarian? :)

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            glennPattonWork3
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            Shouldn't you ask Nagy?:~

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              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

              How about a class that simply checks one thing; and call that in a loop, adding to a resultset?

              How about we never work on the same code so there will be no problems. ;)

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              RyanDev wrote:

              How about we never work on the same code so there will be no problems. ;)

              :laugh:

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              • G glennPattonWork3

                Shouldn't you ask Nagy?:~

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                I'm not going to ask Nagy anything, he might still be upset about the goulasj :)

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                • J Jorgen Andersson

                  D) Use GOTO. E) Systems Hungarian But I'd like to add, that you also need to know when to break the rules.

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                  Erik Burd
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                  I've used GOTO in driver development when it made sense. Generally speaking I don't use it but when it's needed there's nothing wrong with it.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Yeah...that winds me up. Particularly when they have to put effort into making it harder to use different passwords for every system. :mad:

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    I'm waiting for the first bank to implement Facebook single sign on.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      Misdemeanor: Mixing tabs and spaces. Pick one or the other. Not using a Linting tool. Crime: In addition to not checking user input, not validating parameter input for a routine. Not checking for Null. Having two routines do the the same thing.

                      Jeremy Falcon

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                      • L Lost User

                        Yes, I heard that often :rolleyes:

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                        Matt T Heffron
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                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                        I heard that often

                        Lets say my application wants to see which localized satellite assemblies are installed, so it gets the names of all of the directories in the installation folder and checks which names correspond to valid Country-Culture. The CultureInfo class does not have a method to check if the name is valid. The way to check is to use GetCultureInfo on the directory name and catch the exception if it fails. (It could have returned null if it fails but it doesn't!)

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                        • M Matt L

                          Any code that has implemented some sort of source control shouldn't have any commented code. If your customer wanted to go back to previous functionality, you should review the source code history to retrieve it from there, it should even be wrapped up in a single check-in with all the dependencies that the functionality relies on. You can comment code during development to test other avenues, in fact, I think can use whatever coding practice you like while developing :-\ but it shouldn't get committed into the code base. Sorry if this comes across a bit sour, but I'm working at a place that used to use commented code as source control... They have source control now, but they haven't grasped the concept very well and the code is littered with obsolete, misleading and blatantly wrong comments :wtf: :mad: So... crime.

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                          Chris Losinger
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                          it's often handy to leave commented-out code in place if it shows what was already tried but didn't work. if you're using a third party library, for example, and the docs lead you to think that doing X,Y,Z should work, but after talking with the authors you learn that your situation is special so you really need to do W,X,Z. seeing the incorrect (and well-labeled as incorrect!) code can steer future developers away from making the same mistake.

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                          • M Matt T Heffron

                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            I heard that often

                            Lets say my application wants to see which localized satellite assemblies are installed, so it gets the names of all of the directories in the installation folder and checks which names correspond to valid Country-Culture. The CultureInfo class does not have a method to check if the name is valid. The way to check is to use GetCultureInfo on the directory name and catch the exception if it fails. (It could have returned null if it fails but it doesn't!)

                            "Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed." - G.K. Chesterton

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                            That is not an unexpected exception; you are actively catching the exception and continuing on a known path. That is, if you catch exactly that exception, and not just every exception. Otherwise you might miss it if the user does not have read-rights on that location; that makes for bugs that are difficult to solve, if it is unknown that an unexpected exception is occuring and therewith changing the logic of the application to some unexpected state.

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                              Concatenating constant-strings. Swallowing exceptions. Throwing ex; P/Invokes copied from the web when there's a managed alternative. ..would become a long list.

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                              Kevin McFarlane
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                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              Throwing ex;

                              As I understand it there's no difference between throw and throw ex in Java, but there is in C#. I suppose that will catch out anyone moving from Java to C#.

                              Kevin

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                                That is not an unexpected exception; you are actively catching the exception and continuing on a known path. That is, if you catch exactly that exception, and not just every exception. Otherwise you might miss it if the user does not have read-rights on that location; that makes for bugs that are difficult to solve, if it is unknown that an unexpected exception is occuring and therewith changing the logic of the application to some unexpected state.

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                                Kevin McFarlane
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                                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                That is not an unexpected exception; you are actively catching the exception and continuing on a known path. That is, if you catch exactly that exception, and not just every exception.

                                Yes, it's the swallowing of top-level exceptions that are potentially nasty. I've had to maintain code in which top-level exceptions are swallowed and they swallowed serious errors. To track them down I then had to wade through tons of code. :(

                                Kevin

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                                • N Nelek

                                  GOTO can be useful and there are moments where it is needed. Misusing it can result in spagetti code I know but... I would like to see you coding in LAP (PLC) or assembly without JMP instructions...

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                                  Kevin McFarlane
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                                  There's an example in Code Complete (first edition at least) where they provide a code example using Goto. Apparently almost no-one was able to rewrite the code correctly without using Goto. :)

                                  Kevin

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                                  • Z ZurdoDev

                                    harold aptroot wrote:

                                    Committing commented-out code.

                                    That's called good practice. :-\ Actually, there have been times when business requirements went back to what they were before and so uncommenting the code was quite simple. I don't leave commented code in forever though. After a certain amount of time passes, it can go.

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                                    RyanDev wrote:

                                    Actually, there have been times when business requirements went back to what they were before and so uncommenting the code was quite simple. I don't leave commented code in forever though. After a certain amount of time passes, it can go.

                                    I generally like to submit code in as clean a state as possible. My rule of thumb is that if I have committed commented out code at least once then subsequently I will remove it because I know I can get back to it. There are other cases where I might leave it in longer, e.g., if it seems likely that I may need it after some other piece of functionality is available. In that case, I leave a TODO comment explaining why. Should I subsequently learn that it's no longer needed I purge it.

                                    Kevin

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                                    • Z ZurdoDev

                                      Having multiple return statements in a single function. :thumbsdown:

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                                      Kevin McFarlane
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                                      Having a single return is a guideline that I mostly follow. First I aim for short functions so it tends not to be a problem. Secondly returning initially after a condition check and then again at the end is common and fine. Sometimes it actually reads better that way. But long spaghetti methods with returns all over the place is definitely a no-no. Again, I once had to maintain some code in which the single return rule was followed slavishly. The code was mostly pretty impressive but in one case there was a bug caused precisely by slavishly adhering to this rule.

                                      Kevin

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                                      • R Rob Philpott

                                        Well according to the BBC, the recent Talk Talk hack was a simple SQL injection. This from an 'internet' company. Talk Talk is criminal, sounds right to me. Committing code that doesn't compile can just be a case of not including a file, so I'd say that was a misdemeanor. TFS will kindly do this for you at its will. Personally I'd say excessive use of design patterns turning the simple into the multifaceted complex is a crime. Any type that has the word 'helper' in its title- Crime. var - Crime Indentation with spaces - Crime More than 1 type per file - Crime Inconsistent naming - Crime

                                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                        PJ Arends
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                                        Indentation with tabs: Crime. Sometimes I will read code in Notepad, and there the tab spacing is just too large.

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                                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                                          RyanDev wrote:

                                          Actually, there have been times when business requirements went back to what they were before and so uncommenting the code was quite simple. I don't leave commented code in forever though. After a certain amount of time passes, it can go.

                                          I generally like to submit code in as clean a state as possible. My rule of thumb is that if I have committed commented out code at least once then subsequently I will remove it because I know I can get back to it. There are other cases where I might leave it in longer, e.g., if it seems likely that I may need it after some other piece of functionality is available. In that case, I leave a TODO comment explaining why. Should I subsequently learn that it's no longer needed I purge it.

                                          Kevin

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                          hen subsequently I will remove it

                                          Which means you cannot search for that code anymore.

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