Things you do when distracted
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Do you leave tracings of your key on everything you touch to give a thief a template to make one of their own? https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid[^]
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Considering how easy it is to pick a regular lock, I don't see how this makes things worse.
Jeremy Falcon
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I would assume you could do it like the iPhone, and add more than one finger print the scanner would recognize. Could always add them to the system before you leave for vacation. I mean, even garage door openers have a vacation mode, it could too.
Jeremy Falcon
Remains unpractical; let me expand the example - you wake up in the hospital, your cat/dog/crocodile needs to be fed. A key is a simple, cost-effective token, a physical secret.
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Considering how easy it is to pick a regular lock, I don't see how this makes things worse.
Jeremy Falcon
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As with every work morning, I was preoccupied thinking about what I needed to do today and started thinking about one the coding problems left over from Friday. As I walked toward my front door, I pulled out my car key and hit the unlock button. For a split second, I wondered why the front door didn't unlock.
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Remains unpractical; let me expand the example - you wake up in the hospital, your cat/dog/crocodile needs to be fed. A key is a simple, cost-effective token, a physical secret.
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You just like to argue man. Having it being physical in no way makes your situation easier. I got better things to do than argue.
Jeremy Falcon
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Can still be picked with ease.
Jeremy Falcon
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You just like to argue man. Having it being physical in no way makes your situation easier. I got better things to do than argue.
Jeremy Falcon
I tried to rationalize why we still prefer the known way, instead of mucking around with a lock that runs on beta-software :)
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Having it being physical in no way makes your situation easier.
It does; it can easily be transferred and copied, among others. Kinda hard to beat at the price you pay for those.
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Can still be picked with ease.
Jeremy Falcon
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I tried to rationalize why we still prefer the known way, instead of mucking around with a lock that runs on beta-software :)
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Having it being physical in no way makes your situation easier.
It does; it can easily be transferred and copied, among others. Kinda hard to beat at the price you pay for those.
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Beta software is a strawman to argue a theoretical point. In no way did I suggest we let something like VB devs make the software to run it. That being said, if you wake up in the hospital with your leg broken and you don't have friends or family to help, nobody is going to go run and make a copy of a physical key for you either. And adding another user to the keypad actually takes less work than going to the store and making another copy. If you need something to touch in your pocket then you can always tickle the family jewels until tech replaces those too.
Jeremy Falcon
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Beta software is a strawman to argue a theoretical point. In no way did I suggest we let something like VB devs make the software to run it. That being said, if you wake up in the hospital with your leg broken and you don't have friends or family to help, nobody is going to go run and make a copy of a physical key for you either. And adding another user to the keypad actually takes less work than going to the store and making another copy. If you need something to touch in your pocket then you can always tickle the family jewels until tech replaces those too.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Beta software is a strawman to argue a theoretical point. In no way did I suggest we let something like VB devs make the software to run it.
I'd never expected to say this, but that is unfair from the VB point of view. How would the insurance company react when you have a bug in your lock? Don't say that it will be flawless because it is not in VB :)
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
That being said, if you wake up in the hospital with your leg broken and you don't have friends or family to help, nobody is going to go run and make a copy of a physical key for you either.
You usually get multiple as soon as you start occupying a house - they're cheap. But still, in that case you could easily give the original token, and not demand them to make a copy. You could have made one before, and you're not gonna need it there anyway.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
And adding another user to the keypad actually takes less work than going to the store and making another copy.
..I guess that makes sense if you plan to add a lot of users, yes.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
If you need something to touch in your pocket then you can always tickle the family jewels until tech replaces those too.
Let's hope they don't put a password on it, might lock me out of my account forever :laugh: My apologies if I upset you, but I tend to do that to people whenever I communicate. Still, it is a nice question; if it seems such an obvious thing, why has it not yet been introduced? Some people who tend to loose or forget their keys might be very happy with a serious alternative.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Beta software is a strawman to argue a theoretical point. In no way did I suggest we let something like VB devs make the software to run it.
I'd never expected to say this, but that is unfair from the VB point of view. How would the insurance company react when you have a bug in your lock? Don't say that it will be flawless because it is not in VB :)
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
That being said, if you wake up in the hospital with your leg broken and you don't have friends or family to help, nobody is going to go run and make a copy of a physical key for you either.
You usually get multiple as soon as you start occupying a house - they're cheap. But still, in that case you could easily give the original token, and not demand them to make a copy. You could have made one before, and you're not gonna need it there anyway.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
And adding another user to the keypad actually takes less work than going to the store and making another copy.
..I guess that makes sense if you plan to add a lot of users, yes.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
If you need something to touch in your pocket then you can always tickle the family jewels until tech replaces those too.
Let's hope they don't put a password on it, might lock me out of my account forever :laugh: My apologies if I upset you, but I tend to do that to people whenever I communicate. Still, it is a nice question; if it seems such an obvious thing, why has it not yet been introduced? Some people who tend to loose or forget their keys might be very happy with a serious alternative.
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Have fun.
Jeremy Falcon
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Hit the reply button in the CP Lounge?
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As with every work morning, I was preoccupied thinking about what I needed to do today and started thinking about one the coding problems left over from Friday. As I walked toward my front door, I pulled out my car key and hit the unlock button. For a split second, I wondered why the front door didn't unlock.
Answer QA questions here on CodeProject: if I wasn't distracted before I started answering, I am guaranteed to be in that state very quickly as the illusion that the OP actually asks a meaningful question ... or has the slightest intent to really learn anything ... dissolves. To speed-up the onset of distraction I can read the other "solutions" posted by the usual rep-bloating, post-anything, "first responders," first. Actually, it's not that bad, and I learn a lot :)
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
