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    zephaneas
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    I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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      I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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      OriginalGriff
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      If you are moving from 8.1 to 10, then none. From 7 to 10 can be a PITA...and 10 is still an ugly OS in comparison. There are some posts of mine in this forum earlier this year which describe the hassles I had.

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        If you are moving from 8.1 to 10, then none. From 7 to 10 can be a PITA...and 10 is still an ugly OS in comparison. There are some posts of mine in this forum earlier this year which describe the hassles I had.

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        Ya I'd be going from 7 to 10

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          If you are moving from 8.1 to 10, then none. From 7 to 10 can be a PITA...and 10 is still an ugly OS in comparison. There are some posts of mine in this forum earlier this year which describe the hassles I had.

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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          Weylyn Cadwell
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          I personally think some of the things on 10 look a lot better than 7 (just a change of scenery), but the things that are absolutely ugly just outshine the pretty features. Honestly, they should just make 7 more efficient, and then give it a facelift, rather than changing everything that people love about it.

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            I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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            Dan Neely
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            Not as long as you have a recent backup to use for recovery purposes if something gets elephanted up; or you just decide you don't like it. You might want to wait one more day though; the Theshold 2[^] update is supposed to launch with tomorrows patch Tuesday. It has assorted quality of life updates and is a rollup patch; so you shouldn't need to do any extra post-install patching after the upgrade.

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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              Silvabolt
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              I don't mind the new UI and all, but some important things seem slower (at least on my laptop). Sometimes when you click the start button, it does not open immediately. PC searching functionality seems slower as well (even if I disable the web search).

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                I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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                Mike Hankey
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                zephaneas wrote:

                Any reason not to upgrade?

                It's Win10!

                New version: WinHeist Version
                You didn't fall from the stupid tree you got dragged through the whole dumbass forest.

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                • Z zephaneas

                  I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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                  Dr Walt Fair PE
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                  I've been using Win10 on 2 desktops and my 3 surfaces since the day it was made availavle. No issues to rerport!

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                  Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                    Not as long as you have a recent backup to use for recovery purposes if something gets elephanted up; or you just decide you don't like it. You might want to wait one more day though; the Theshold 2[^] update is supposed to launch with tomorrows patch Tuesday. It has assorted quality of life updates and is a rollup patch; so you shouldn't need to do any extra post-install patching after the upgrade.

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    dandy72
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                    I was gonna bring that up - some are expecting it to be included as part of tomorrow's set of patches, but MS has never confirmed it - but it is expected to be out this month. So either way, I'd wait for that to be available.

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                    • Z zephaneas

                      I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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                      ZurdoDev
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                      I've had no issues with Win10 at all. Go for it. :thumbsup:

                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      • Z zephaneas

                        I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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                        Frank Alviani
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                        I have it on my main game machine at home with no issues at all. I did the upgrade 32-bit -> clean install 64-bit path to add more RAM to my system, and all seems well.

                        My long term goal is to live forever. So far, so good...

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                        • Z zephaneas

                          I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          Upgraded my laptop from 8.1 to 10... And nothing changed. Upgraded my desktop from 7 to 10... My BSOD problems vanished, and it generally feels a little faster and more stable. On the other hand, it likes to shuffle windows between monitors when I turn on the connected TV, often comes up out of hibernate at random times of the day or night (Even though I turned off wake-on-LAN), and likes to pop up web search results instead of applications when I hit the start key and type a few letters of an application name. But in terms of things exploding and eating all of my data... Nope, went nice and smoothly. Considering Microsoft's track record with OS updates, I was actually fairly impressed.

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                            I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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                            Brisingr Aerowing
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                            The only issues I've had with Win10 are from third-party idiots vendors testing in production. (I'm looking at you, NVidia). I've also had to help people who had Win10 and were having crashes and found that ALL of them were running programs written for Windows 98/ME! I told them to wait for the singularity, to which one suggested defragging the keyboard! ( :doh: )

                            What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

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                              The only issues I've had with Win10 are from third-party idiots vendors testing in production. (I'm looking at you, NVidia). I've also had to help people who had Win10 and were having crashes and found that ALL of them were running programs written for Windows 98/ME! I told them to wait for the singularity, to which one suggested defragging the keyboard! ( :doh: )

                              What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

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                              OriginalGriff
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                              De-fragging the keyboard isn't that stupid an idea. If you turn the average keyboard upside down and give it a good shake, it's revolting what fragments fall out... :~

                              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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                                Joe Woodbury
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                                My MSI based home system did not "like" Windows 10. Even with a clean install, after a few boots, it would claim the disk was corrupted and go to the repair menu. Yet, there, it would say everything was fine. After a few rounds of this, it would stop booting all together. I suspect there's a firmware issue with the SATA controller. (And even if not, I'm using that as an excuse to build a Skylake based system early next year.) I went back to Windows 8.1 (which I actually like.)

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                                  I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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                                  Lost User
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                                  I did the following and it is working out excellent for me: I downloaded the Win 10 ISO file and burnt it onto a DVD to make my own "OEM" disc. The ISO is available from MS as a free download. Before using the ISO disc, I upgraded my existing Win 8.1 to Win 10. Double checked that Win 10 was activated. (This step is essential if you don't want to pay for an OEM license.) Once Microsoft is happy that you have an activated Win 10 setup on your computer you can do a "clean" install with the ISO disc: First I deleted all partitions on my systems drive - and yes - you will lose all data so backup important data before you go deleting partitions. Now first create a small recovery partition. Windows will create it, if you skip this step, but Windows is inclined to make the partition too small and after a while it will refuse to create shadow copies of your systems drive, because the recovery partition is too small. Making this partition around 2GB is plenty. Important: Mark the recovery partition as "active". No need to assign a drive letter to this partition. Create a systems partition to fill the rest of the drive. You can assign drive letter C:\ to this partition. Mark it as a primary partition (NOT active). Windows will automatically go on this, large, partition. Install Windows 10 from the ISO disc. Skip the two steps where it asks for an activation code. This will give you a "clean" Windows 10 installation. Once Windows 10 is up and running, verify that it is activated. Provided you first upgraded from 7 or 8, activation should happen automatically. Then you can install all your apps. The whole process took me about 8 hours, allowing for all the updates. Note: You may want to first create an image of your old systems drive, in case you want to revert to 7 or 8. There is no other way to "undo" this clean install of 10.

                                  How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                                    Ya I'd be going from 7 to 10

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                                    Chris Maunder
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                                    I went from 7 to 10 on all my machines with zero issues. Reasonably quick and very painless. Do yourself a favour [^]though.

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Font rendering is messed up if you enable DPI scaling. There are some fixes though.

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                                        I went from 7 to 10 on all my machines with zero issues. Reasonably quick and very painless. Do yourself a favour [^]though.

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Did you not try Classic Shell from CP member Ivo Beltchev, it is a pretty good product, I use it myself, and he has an article here on the subject.

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                                        • Z zephaneas

                                          I've been curious about Win 10, so I think I'm going to install it on my laptop. Then I can evaluate it without mucking up my Dev PC, and if all goes well, I can use my laptop as a Win 10 test area. Any reason not to upgrade?

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                                          codymj
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                                          I've also been using Windows 10 for awhile now. I don't use Windows much and I thought 7 was good. So far, nothing wrong with Windows 10 for me.

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