am I the only guy annoyed with Microsoft?
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I'm considering linux, but what about the grandmas that use the computer program I wrote for windows? It's them I'm concerned about.
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Hey - don't blame Micro$oft for you becoming an early adopter. Anyone who didn't learn their lesson with MS DOS 6.0 is just easy meat for the bit-grinder.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Early adopter? Yeah, that's me. But we're on win10 SP1, aren't we? So you're sayin all the grammas out there are early adopters? They are gonna wanna vent...
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Where's the rage i expected to find in here? Doesn't anybody have a grandma that they've had to help through this win10 SP1 thing? Yes grandma. Start / Power / Restart, then wait 45 minutes. It will finally work again. No. It'll be no better than before. But it will work again. At least windows explorer remembers where you f***-ing put it. Is there anything else in this damn service pack??? Doesn't this win10 stuff ANGER anybody besides me??? I mean, wtf??? The old control panel isn't gone, but there IS a huge new one to wade through. And it's dog slow. Full of thrilling ........ animations. And the start menu is back. But it's now DOG slow. Are there any good parts to windows 10? At all? I mean, isn't this exactly how you're NOT supposed to deliver software? Does Microsoft feel no shame? wtf?
I have never understood hatred towards Microsoft. They don't create perfect software but not only have they have always made the best software they also make it the easiest to build on top of their software and improve it. There is no one that even comes close to being as good as Microsoft. Many of us have had good paying careers because of what Microsoft does. If you are this upset at using Microsoft products, you might just kill yourself using someone else's products. :^)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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So you know a large population of grammas that have configured their PC thusly? No. No ya don't :)
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So you know a large population of grammas that have configured their PC thusly? No. No ya don't :)
Well then you're screwed. May as well enjoy the torture. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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I have never understood hatred towards Microsoft. They don't create perfect software but not only have they have always made the best software they also make it the easiest to build on top of their software and improve it. There is no one that even comes close to being as good as Microsoft. Many of us have had good paying careers because of what Microsoft does. If you are this upset at using Microsoft products, you might just kill yourself using someone else's products. :^)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Agreed. At least about the "there's nothing better" part. But so far win7 is better than everything after it. Microsoft has since delivered win8, win8 SP1, win10, win10 SP1. That's =4= major releases that are no better than win7. It makes me think Microsoft no longer knows what it's doing. If you put out 4 releases of YOUR software, would you want that same track record? That's shameful. I'm pretty sure they deserve my rage.
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Agreed. At least about the "there's nothing better" part. But so far win7 is better than everything after it. Microsoft has since delivered win8, win8 SP1, win10, win10 SP1. That's =4= major releases that are no better than win7. It makes me think Microsoft no longer knows what it's doing. If you put out 4 releases of YOUR software, would you want that same track record? That's shameful. I'm pretty sure they deserve my rage.
stephen.hazel wrote:
But so far win7 is better than everything after it.
Maybe. I have seen others here also saying they've had a lot of trouble with win 10. I have had no problems with it and am quite fine with it. Could be your drivers, or other programs you have installed, who knows. Could be I'm just lucky.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Well then you're screwed. May as well enjoy the torture. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
Yep. That's some truth right there. Ok, back ta work :)
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I voted this up, but in all fairness, MS isn't saying it's a Beta - even though we all know it is. They're acting like she's good to go.
Jeremy Falcon
Thanks and I agree with you about Microsoft not saying it's Beta. I made a simple calculation - how much will it cost me to install a potentially unstable OS that wreaks havoc over my computer against waiting and potentially having to pay for an upgrade to a stable system. The maths was pretty easy for me - it will be cheaper to pay for the upgrade later than get it 'free' now.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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stephen.hazel wrote:
But so far win7 is better than everything after it.
Maybe. I have seen others here also saying they've had a lot of trouble with win 10. I have had no problems with it and am quite fine with it. Could be your drivers, or other programs you have installed, who knows. Could be I'm just lucky.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
All I'm sayin is I remember my beloved Amiga 500. I loved that thing SO MUCH, but when Commodore died... I kept writing software for it as I watched the number of users dwindle and was forced to realize the futility of not hopping onto Windows95. I think what's underlying my rage is fear that Microsoft will do the same thing to me. HOW COULD YOU DO THAT TO ME COMMODORE ??? WHY DID YOU MAKE ME A CLONE ??? Ok. I think the vent meter has a lower pressure reading. whew.
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I have never understood hatred towards Microsoft. They don't create perfect software but not only have they have always made the best software they also make it the easiest to build on top of their software and improve it. There is no one that even comes close to being as good as Microsoft. Many of us have had good paying careers because of what Microsoft does. If you are this upset at using Microsoft products, you might just kill yourself using someone else's products. :^)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
I have never understood hatred towards Microsoft.
Simple; in the early days of DOS there were few remarks; but when Win3.1 hit the market, every hobbyist could look like a pro by nodding wisely at a failing system and sighing "Microsoft", like the sages they were.
RyanDev wrote:
There is no one that even comes close to being as good as Microsoft.
Yup. Dominated the market for years. They defined design into things I can understand, even UI-design - focussing on things like repeatability, recognizability, usability and a lot of other ties. The "common controls" are the most used, that's saying a lot.
RyanDev wrote:
If you are this upset at using Microsoft products, you might just kill yourself using someone else's products. :^)
Things change; they always do. It is not the old Microsoft that favored developers, it is a new beast. We'll see how it goes, but I like the idea that it will become more interesting in the OS market than it has been for some time.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
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RyanDev wrote:
I have never understood hatred towards Microsoft.
Simple; in the early days of DOS there were few remarks; but when Win3.1 hit the market, every hobbyist could look like a pro by nodding wisely at a failing system and sighing "Microsoft", like the sages they were.
RyanDev wrote:
There is no one that even comes close to being as good as Microsoft.
Yup. Dominated the market for years. They defined design into things I can understand, even UI-design - focussing on things like repeatability, recognizability, usability and a lot of other ties. The "common controls" are the most used, that's saying a lot.
RyanDev wrote:
If you are this upset at using Microsoft products, you might just kill yourself using someone else's products. :^)
Things change; they always do. It is not the old Microsoft that favored developers, it is a new beast. We'll see how it goes, but I like the idea that it will become more interesting in the OS market than it has been for some time.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
but I like the idea that it will become more interesting in the OS market than it has been for some time.
yeah, me too. I'm kinda rooting for Android. It's got a looooong ways to go to be a real desktop os, but I like the quality I'm seeing. If all the dang desktop linuxes could converge to ONE desktop linux, they might have a chance. But they kinda don't seem to be. (I don't even know. Haven't been keepin tabs on desktop linuxes.)
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Where's the rage i expected to find in here? Doesn't anybody have a grandma that they've had to help through this win10 SP1 thing? Yes grandma. Start / Power / Restart, then wait 45 minutes. It will finally work again. No. It'll be no better than before. But it will work again. At least windows explorer remembers where you f***-ing put it. Is there anything else in this damn service pack??? Doesn't this win10 stuff ANGER anybody besides me??? I mean, wtf??? The old control panel isn't gone, but there IS a huge new one to wade through. And it's dog slow. Full of thrilling ........ animations. And the start menu is back. But it's now DOG slow. Are there any good parts to windows 10? At all? I mean, isn't this exactly how you're NOT supposed to deliver software? Does Microsoft feel no shame? wtf?
Eh... I give much simpler instructions. "See that thingy that's asking you to upgrade to Windows 10? Click the button. Follow the instructions, then go watch TV for a couple hours. When you get back, it'll probably be ready for you to follow a few more instructions, and you're done." Honestly, as operating system upgrades go, this is about the smoothest one I've ever seen. Had a couple minor annoyances right after the install, but 95% of things just worked exactly as before. It starts up faster, it never BSODs (I was getting those 2-3 times a week before I upgraded - Probably a corrupted driver somewhere), and it does all of that tedious upgrading while I'm at the office, instead of whining at me to reboot when I'm in the middle of a game. It's not perfect, but it's an improvement... And it was free.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
but I like the idea that it will become more interesting in the OS market than it has been for some time.
yeah, me too. I'm kinda rooting for Android. It's got a looooong ways to go to be a real desktop os, but I like the quality I'm seeing. If all the dang desktop linuxes could converge to ONE desktop linux, they might have a chance. But they kinda don't seem to be. (I don't even know. Haven't been keepin tabs on desktop linuxes.)
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Eh... I give much simpler instructions. "See that thingy that's asking you to upgrade to Windows 10? Click the button. Follow the instructions, then go watch TV for a couple hours. When you get back, it'll probably be ready for you to follow a few more instructions, and you're done." Honestly, as operating system upgrades go, this is about the smoothest one I've ever seen. Had a couple minor annoyances right after the install, but 95% of things just worked exactly as before. It starts up faster, it never BSODs (I was getting those 2-3 times a week before I upgraded - Probably a corrupted driver somewhere), and it does all of that tedious upgrading while I'm at the office, instead of whining at me to reboot when I'm in the middle of a game. It's not perfect, but it's an improvement... And it was free.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)sooooo you don't mind that loads of the people who use your software have had to wade through win8, 8sp1, win10, 10sp1 ?? sorry customer. sucks to be you. 10SP1 isn't as broken as win10, it's install didn't blow up for me, and it was free. wheeeeeere is the rage i expected ?? We are on WINDOWS 10 SP1 !!
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works fine, eh? so it doesn't bother you that you've had to wait 2 hours for win10 and SP1 to install? Restart your pc and boom - it's gone for 45 minutes no warning. That doesn't bother you? and you've got an os that's basically win7 plus bloat plus a windows update that's a lot bumpier? I don't know about you, but I'm getting worried about microsoft. This was supposed to be the GOOD one of the every other release cycle. Seriously, has the emperor decided he likes his new "clothes" ??? Do we have to go looking for an emperor that isn't fricken insane? I am pretty p***ed... This is not how the company that builds my OS should be.
stephen.hazel wrote:
so it doesn't bother you that you've had to wait 2 hours for win10 and SP1 to install?
It bothers me more when relatives get their pre-10 machines still get owned by some malware through some security vulnerability that was patched months ago, because they never applied the patch. And then I'm left cleaning the mess. Consumers have proven time and again they can't be trusted to keep their systems up to date. So I'd rather see grandma have to wait for forced updates to get installed before she can get to her cat videos, than seeing her system never getting patched at all.
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Agreed. At least about the "there's nothing better" part. But so far win7 is better than everything after it. Microsoft has since delivered win8, win8 SP1, win10, win10 SP1. That's =4= major releases that are no better than win7. It makes me think Microsoft no longer knows what it's doing. If you put out 4 releases of YOUR software, would you want that same track record? That's shameful. I'm pretty sure they deserve my rage.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
but I like the idea that it will become more interesting in the OS market than it has been for some time.
yeah, me too. I'm kinda rooting for Android. It's got a looooong ways to go to be a real desktop os, but I like the quality I'm seeing. If all the dang desktop linuxes could converge to ONE desktop linux, they might have a chance. But they kinda don't seem to be. (I don't even know. Haven't been keepin tabs on desktop linuxes.)
stephen.hazel wrote:
I'm kinda rooting for Android. It's got a looooong ways to go to be a real desktop os, but I like the quality I'm seeing
We must not be reading the same articles, because all I keep reading about is how badly vulnerable Android is, and there's no clean solution because its users are at the mercy of their carriers. Also, desktop OS? I've seen the x86 Android emulators, but I'm guessing you're talking about something else entirely...?
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sooooo you don't mind that loads of the people who use your software have had to wade through win8, 8sp1, win10, 10sp1 ?? sorry customer. sucks to be you. 10SP1 isn't as broken as win10, it's install didn't blow up for me, and it was free. wheeeeeere is the rage i expected ?? We are on WINDOWS 10 SP1 !!
Is it really that satisfying to be a victim?
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