Considering a Mac
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I am considering buying a Mac, and I am wondering who out in CodeProject uses them, particularly for development (of any sort). Any reccomendations on what to get or avoid? Is the Apple warranty extension worth considering? Is getting a refurbished Mac worth it? My absolute max is ~1800. I want it for development purposes primarily, though my wife might actually learn to use for simple day to day stuff. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!
I thought April Fool's Day was a couple days ago. Oh well, I guess fools linger on. :-D On a more serious note, WHY are you considering a Mac? I mean, come on, their OS X was the first operating system to finally implement true pre-emptive task switching. Everything prior to that was using cooperative task switching a la Windows 3.1. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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I am considering buying a Mac, and I am wondering who out in CodeProject uses them, particularly for development (of any sort). Any reccomendations on what to get or avoid? Is the Apple warranty extension worth considering? Is getting a refurbished Mac worth it? My absolute max is ~1800. I want it for development purposes primarily, though my wife might actually learn to use for simple day to day stuff. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!
Jim Crafton wrote: My absolute max is ~1800 I think that will be tough. I use a Mac G4, OS9 at work. They don't tell us what they cost, but it was top-of-the-line, two years ago. One more year and I get an upgrade. I primarily do multi-platform software on the Pc and Mac. I use Codewarrior 6.0 for development on the Mac and VC 6.0 on the PC. There isn't a good cross-platform development tool, although Metrowerks claims PowerPlant is headed in that direction...we'll see. I bought my wife a G4 a couple of years ago. She does graphic design. If I remember correctly it was on the order of $2500. Don't know anything about the refurbs. Don't know if my two cents have been any help, but good luck. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
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Jim Crafton wrote: My absolute max is ~1800 I think that will be tough. I use a Mac G4, OS9 at work. They don't tell us what they cost, but it was top-of-the-line, two years ago. One more year and I get an upgrade. I primarily do multi-platform software on the Pc and Mac. I use Codewarrior 6.0 for development on the Mac and VC 6.0 on the PC. There isn't a good cross-platform development tool, although Metrowerks claims PowerPlant is headed in that direction...we'll see. I bought my wife a G4 a couple of years ago. She does graphic design. If I remember correctly it was on the order of $2500. Don't know anything about the refurbs. Don't know if my two cents have been any help, but good luck. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
Gary Kirkham wrote: primarily do multi-platform software on the Pc and Mac. I use Codewarrior 6.0 for development on the Mac and VC 6.0 on the PC. There isn't a good cross-platform development tool, although Metrowerks claims PowerPlant is headed in that direction...we'll see. I'm buying it partially to be able to port the VCF[^] to it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!
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Gary Kirkham wrote: primarily do multi-platform software on the Pc and Mac. I use Codewarrior 6.0 for development on the Mac and VC 6.0 on the PC. There isn't a good cross-platform development tool, although Metrowerks claims PowerPlant is headed in that direction...we'll see. I'm buying it partially to be able to port the VCF[^] to it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!
You do know the Mac market share is shrinking and is now heading below 2%.
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I am considering buying a Mac, and I am wondering who out in CodeProject uses them, particularly for development (of any sort). Any reccomendations on what to get or avoid? Is the Apple warranty extension worth considering? Is getting a refurbished Mac worth it? My absolute max is ~1800. I want it for development purposes primarily, though my wife might actually learn to use for simple day to day stuff. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!
I also am considering a Mac for my home studio. I heard the G5s will come out by July or so. I'm thinking I'll probably wait until then. That way if I want top of the line it'll be at least a year before it's outdated. Or if I wanted a G4 the prices will drop. nay
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You do know the Mac market share is shrinking and is now heading below 2%.
Joe Woodbury wrote: You do know the Mac market share is shrinking and is now heading below 2%. I don't dispute your figure, and I'm sure it was about 4% a couple of years back. IMHO: Mac's will continue to find niches for quite sometime. Some people are actually proud to own one. Cult mentality I guess. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Joe Woodbury wrote: You do know the Mac market share is shrinking and is now heading below 2%. I don't dispute your figure, and I'm sure it was about 4% a couple of years back. IMHO: Mac's will continue to find niches for quite sometime. Some people are actually proud to own one. Cult mentality I guess. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
Warning Link to the minion's animation, do not use. It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
Colin Davies wrote: I'm sure it was about 4% a couple of years back It was, but it's been shrinking drastically lately. With market share that small, doing any project for the Mac is questionable. (I've never liked the Mac much, but it's been a good counterpoint to Windows. I genuinely wish Apple would port OS X to the PC platform. It would give it new life and drive a stake through the heart of Linux on the desktop. It would also be cool if Apple added a Win32 compatiblity layer.)
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I was going to be funny and post a picture of the type of mac you might wear in a rainstorm and comment on it being a bargain at only $25, but I have since concluded that my week away from the Internet has taken its toll as I was unable to find a single one. That and I really, really need to get out more. :~ Nothing to see here, just a man falling apart at the seems. Move along now...
David Wulff
"i said no to noddy like 20 times but in the end i just couldnt say no to him anymore" - Wishful Thinking
u tarting yourself in a grubby old raincoat for 25 squids would be most amusing, personally i think i could get 50 ;) Bryce --- Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor
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Colin Davies wrote: I'm sure it was about 4% a couple of years back It was, but it's been shrinking drastically lately. With market share that small, doing any project for the Mac is questionable. (I've never liked the Mac much, but it's been a good counterpoint to Windows. I genuinely wish Apple would port OS X to the PC platform. It would give it new life and drive a stake through the heart of Linux on the desktop. It would also be cool if Apple added a Win32 compatiblity layer.)
Joe Woodbury wrote: I genuinely wish Apple would port OS X to the PC platform. It would give it new life and drive a stake through the heart of Linux on the desktop You can't be serious. This would drive a stake through the heart of OSX and apple - remember Next computers? BeOS? No? See why! Linux (or some other things like the BSDs) would live on and slowly fall into neglect when TCPA does no longer allow execution of SW not licensed by Microsoft or the music industry.
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
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I am considering buying a Mac, and I am wondering who out in CodeProject uses them, particularly for development (of any sort). Any reccomendations on what to get or avoid? Is the Apple warranty extension worth considering? Is getting a refurbished Mac worth it? My absolute max is ~1800. I want it for development purposes primarily, though my wife might actually learn to use for simple day to day stuff. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!
I have a powerbook that mostly gets used for office and I occasionally use the terminal for various linux/unix progs that have been ported over. The only real developement I have done was in java :~ And, for java, it wasn't bad... Though personally I wouldn't buy one for developement....
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Joe Woodbury wrote: I genuinely wish Apple would port OS X to the PC platform. It would give it new life and drive a stake through the heart of Linux on the desktop You can't be serious. This would drive a stake through the heart of OSX and apple - remember Next computers? BeOS? No? See why! Linux (or some other things like the BSDs) would live on and slowly fall into neglect when TCPA does no longer allow execution of SW not licensed by Microsoft or the music industry.
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
jhwurmbach wrote: Next computers? BeOS? No? See why! Huh? NeXT was a proprietary platform with terrible quality control. BeOS was an ill planned, poorly marketed system that kept changing platforms and had almost zero developer support from the company itself.
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u tarting yourself in a grubby old raincoat for 25 squids would be most amusing, personally i think i could get 50 ;) Bryce --- Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor
£25? Don't let my high degree of intelligence and social class fool you, I'm as cheap as any half-rate whore. :-O
David Wulff
"i said no to noddy like 20 times but in the end i just couldnt say no to him anymore" - Wishful Thinking