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    Why is the Presidents name pronounced "olland"**, rather than "Holland"? Are you all Cockneys in disguise? Also do you get the 'H' sound using a 'J' like the Spanish with Jalepeno. I have a team in Mexico and they say "Je je je" when they mean to laugh ie he he he **According to British Newsreaders in the last few days.

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      Why is the Presidents name pronounced "olland"**, rather than "Holland"? Are you all Cockneys in disguise? Also do you get the 'H' sound using a 'J' like the Spanish with Jalepeno. I have a team in Mexico and they say "Je je je" when they mean to laugh ie he he he **According to British Newsreaders in the last few days.

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      its interesting - Im not a native speaker of any other language than English (and even then, after a drop alcohol ....) I'm not sure if the 'H' in 'Holland' is completely silent - I know there's a definate French pronunciation of the 'o' that may obscure the softer 'H' .. as for Spanish - yes, one quickly learns that 'j' sounds like 'h', 'll' sounds like 'y' etc, but I dont get the reverse you imply to me its all 'potato'/potAto etc - I can mostly make myself understood, and tend to go with the local lingo of wherever I am/whom-ever I am with

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        Why is the Presidents name pronounced "olland"**, rather than "Holland"? Are you all Cockneys in disguise? Also do you get the 'H' sound using a 'J' like the Spanish with Jalepeno. I have a team in Mexico and they say "Je je je" when they mean to laugh ie he he he **According to British Newsreaders in the last few days.

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        PompeyThree wrote:

        Why is the Presidents name pronounced "olland"**, rather than "Holland"?

        Should be obvious for everyone: French people don't use English pronunciation to speak French :-O :-O

        Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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          PompeyThree wrote:

          Why is the Presidents name pronounced "olland"**, rather than "Holland"?

          Should be obvious for everyone: French people don't use English pronunciation to speak French :-O :-O

          Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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          Très inconsidérée.

          Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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            Why is the Presidents name pronounced "olland"**, rather than "Holland"? Are you all Cockneys in disguise? Also do you get the 'H' sound using a 'J' like the Spanish with Jalepeno. I have a team in Mexico and they say "Je je je" when they mean to laugh ie he he he **According to British Newsreaders in the last few days.

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            From what I know, both English and French are not phonetic, and therefore, WYRINHYS*. * What You Read Is Not How You Speak

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              From what I know, both English and French are not phonetic, and therefore, WYRINHYS*. * What You Read Is Not How You Speak

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              :thumbsup:

              Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                Why is the Presidents name pronounced "olland"**, rather than "Holland"? Are you all Cockneys in disguise? Also do you get the 'H' sound using a 'J' like the Spanish with Jalepeno. I have a team in Mexico and they say "Je je je" when they mean to laugh ie he he he **According to British Newsreaders in the last few days.

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                Most French H's are mute[^]- that is, they are not pronounced and the word acts as if it begins with a vowel.

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                  Why is the Presidents name pronounced "olland"**, rather than "Holland"? Are you all Cockneys in disguise? Also do you get the 'H' sound using a 'J' like the Spanish with Jalepeno. I have a team in Mexico and they say "Je je je" when they mean to laugh ie he he he **According to British Newsreaders in the last few days.

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                  The same reason that mercans pronounce 'herbs' as '<glottal stop>erbs'.

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                    PompeyThree wrote:

                    Why is the Presidents name pronounced "olland"**, rather than "Holland"?

                    Should be obvious for everyone: French people don't use English pronunciation to speak French :-O :-O

                    Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                    Mais oui! C'est vrai! But English people don't shouldn't use English pronunciation to speak French either. Which is why it wouldn't be pronounced Holland even if the H was sounded. The final 'e' requires the lengthened vowel in the second syllable. And also why it's a really bad idea to tell the waiter in a French restaurant that you were there because the Hote cuisine was Highly recommended.

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