Upgrades
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Do a full backup first (AOMEI is good, and free) Upgrade. Download ISO version. Reformat HDD and install from ISO. Reinstall software. Reload data from backup (AOMEI allows you to load a backup as a virtual drive, so you can do an image restore to get back to your Win 7 setup, or access just the files you want from the backup set) Don't try to miss any stages... :laugh: You will likely get some grief - the 7 -> 10 upgrade can be awkward - but provided you do a proper install after the upgrade you should be able to minimize them. Is it good? Well...a bit. It's uglier than Win 7, any old hardware may not have drivers and it's badly integrated. But it is the way forward unfortunately, so at some point you will have to move.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Upgrade. Download ISO version. Reformat HDD and install from ISO.
Why these steps? I have not updated yet but the November release should accept Windows 7 and 8.1 keys so that the first step can be omitted. That is one reason why I'm waiting.
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I am just wondering something. In the threads below I am reading about people having disasterous times upgrading their machines to Win 10, and then someone replies that they had no problems at all. What is the relative age of the hardware of those with problems compared to those with no problems at all? I am betting the newer the hardware, the less problems being had. My machine is 5 years old and running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not.
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Maybe you should ask for the age of the users instead. ;)
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Upgrade. Download ISO version. Reformat HDD and install from ISO.
Why these steps? I have not updated yet but the November release should accept Windows 7 and 8.1 keys so that the first step can be omitted. That is one reason why I'm waiting.
Because clean installs are always more stable. I'm going to follow his suggestion.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Because clean installs are always more stable. I'm going to follow his suggestion.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
It would be a clean install to skip the first (upgrade) step and then format the HDD.
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Because clean installs are always more stable. I'm going to follow his suggestion.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Upgrade. Download ISO version. Reformat HDD and install from ISO.
Why these steps? I have not updated yet but the November release should accept Windows 7 and 8.1 keys so that the first step can be omitted. That is one reason why I'm waiting.
The question is: how much do you trust MS to get it right? :laugh:
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The question is: how much do you trust MS to get it right? :laugh:
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That's why I'm waiting to know that it is working (at least for others). If it does not work, it requires a re-install and activation of Windows 7 and upgrading that :sigh:
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Do a full backup first (AOMEI is good, and free) Upgrade. Download ISO version. Reformat HDD and install from ISO. Reinstall software. Reload data from backup (AOMEI allows you to load a backup as a virtual drive, so you can do an image restore to get back to your Win 7 setup, or access just the files you want from the backup set) Don't try to miss any stages... :laugh: You will likely get some grief - the 7 -> 10 upgrade can be awkward - but provided you do a proper install after the upgrade you should be able to minimize them. Is it good? Well...a bit. It's uglier than Win 7, any old hardware may not have drivers and it's badly integrated. But it is the way forward unfortunately, so at some point you will have to move.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Is AOMEI a general recommendation? I always used Ghost in the old times, but I don't have access to it anymore.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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I am just wondering something. In the threads below I am reading about people having disasterous times upgrading their machines to Win 10, and then someone replies that they had no problems at all. What is the relative age of the hardware of those with problems compared to those with no problems at all? I am betting the newer the hardware, the less problems being had. My machine is 5 years old and running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
I have two systems, both of which I upgraded to Windows 10 without any serious problems. The only issues were to do with versions of software that did not recognise Windows 10. Shuttle XPC compact system purchased October 2005, Dell Inspiron laptop purchased October 2006. Both are now running without probems.
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Is AOMEI a general recommendation? I always used Ghost in the old times, but I don't have access to it anymore.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
I like it - it's free, it works well, and it does compressed image backups that you can load as virtual drives for individual file restores which is the best of both worlds. It also stores the images as individual files (albeit big files) which means you can copy them to NAS, keep multiple images of several PC's on one backup drive, and so forth. It's also got a nice UI that I find easy to navigate, and creates Win PE bootable images for complete restores. Works for me... Compared to MS's attempt, it's Win 7 compared to DOS 6...:laugh: * No, I don't work for them, get paid by them, or get any gifts to say this. Unfortunately *
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I am just wondering something. In the threads below I am reading about people having disasterous times upgrading their machines to Win 10, and then someone replies that they had no problems at all. What is the relative age of the hardware of those with problems compared to those with no problems at all? I am betting the newer the hardware, the less problems being had. My machine is 5 years old and running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not.
If it runs Win7 why upgrade? I am writing this on Win10 (upraded from 8) and find it little different to Win7 (mind you I run Firefox & Thunderbird (never really trusted Outlook since I got a virus and Outlook turned off the Virus killer!)) so I can't comment on Edge or Mail. The only reason I ended up with 8 was my XP box died and I couldn't get a 7 box with the speed I needed!
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I am just wondering something. In the threads below I am reading about people having disasterous times upgrading their machines to Win 10, and then someone replies that they had no problems at all. What is the relative age of the hardware of those with problems compared to those with no problems at all? I am betting the newer the hardware, the less problems being had. My machine is 5 years old and running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
Other than a weird error[^] (easily fixed) all went fine, and Windows 10 is working as expected. 4, 5 years old home made i5/4gig/regular HDD/regular GPU (and no exotic hardware/peripheral) Remember that people like to bitchcomplain.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I am just wondering something. In the threads below I am reading about people having disasterous times upgrading their machines to Win 10, and then someone replies that they had no problems at all. What is the relative age of the hardware of those with problems compared to those with no problems at all? I am betting the newer the hardware, the less problems being had. My machine is 5 years old and running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
I am on the verge of reinstalling Win7 on a 6 year old desktop. So, why not just go with the hive and go with the latest and greatest? Because I like 7 better than 10. I am familiar/comfortable and productive with it. I have it on a new laptop, and don't see enough new features that make it worthwhile...I don't need Cortana, Edge, or that big ugly start menu! :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not.
If it runs Win7 why upgrade? I am writing this on Win10 (upraded from 8) and find it little different to Win7 (mind you I run Firefox & Thunderbird (never really trusted Outlook since I got a virus and Outlook turned off the Virus killer!)) so I can't comment on Edge or Mail. The only reason I ended up with 8 was my XP box died and I couldn't get a 7 box with the speed I needed!
Mail is a pile of poo - it doesn't event register itself properly as the mail application (because it's a "Metro" app and they don't play nice with desktop ones). So you can right click an image or file, and select "Send to...Mail recipient" and it does a total of nothing. "Forward to" seems to disappear on a regular basis as well... Install Windows Live Mail (from the Windows Essentials download pack) and you get a much better email client that works like Outlook Express used to, only better. Only gripe is that it doesn't show a tray icon for "new mail". Edge is IE for win 10 - run once, install something better, and then ignore it for ever more! :laugh:
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It would be a clean install to skip the first (upgrade) step and then format the HDD.
That's fine if you want to pay for your copy of Win10. But if you want to upgrade for free, MS needs to check if you have a valid OS. this is done during the upgrade. Then it also saves a few hash values representing your hardware, that allows you to make a clean install afterwards.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Because clean installs are always more stable. I'm going to follow his suggestion.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Because clean installs are always more stable.
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Pretty sure that's what Jochen meant. Why do step #1 (ie. upgrade)?
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See my answer to Jochen.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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I obtained my machine two years back and you can probably add a year or two to that in terms of when it came into production and I am one of the zero problems bods. So, yeah, age could have something to do with it. It also seems that desktops do better than laptops. Of course, if what you're really asking is "Can I justify to my spouse/special friend/business partner/mother/bank manager getting a new computer purely for the joy of using W10?" then who am I to say no? ;)
I have found that the "safe boot" mode that is on newer laptops is pretty good at preventing changes in the operating system. Upgrading to Win7 from Win8 was terrible, and going to Win10 from Win7 was almost impossible for me.
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I am just wondering something. In the threads below I am reading about people having disasterous times upgrading their machines to Win 10, and then someone replies that they had no problems at all. What is the relative age of the hardware of those with problems compared to those with no problems at all? I am betting the newer the hardware, the less problems being had. My machine is 5 years old and running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
I've successfully upgraded a celeron-based laptop (Toshiba) which was at least 5 years old. Actually, once Win10 was installed the computer perfomed better than it previously did under win7 -- I don't have actual perf stats, but just seemed better from a user-perspective. Good luck.
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running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not.
If it runs Win7 why upgrade? I am writing this on Win10 (upraded from 8) and find it little different to Win7 (mind you I run Firefox & Thunderbird (never really trusted Outlook since I got a virus and Outlook turned off the Virus killer!)) so I can't comment on Edge or Mail. The only reason I ended up with 8 was my XP box died and I couldn't get a 7 box with the speed I needed!
I upgraded my Win8.1 laptop to Win10. Saw no real difference (obviously). I upgraded an old laptop to Win10 from Win7 and honestly again, there really aren't any features that you get from Win10. The old win7 laptop seemed to perform a bit better after installing win10 -- maybe related to using the disk more efficiently? My point: I agree with you -- Win7 is good enough Win8 nor Win10 get you much, except being current.
