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    Forogar
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    I think the biggest objection I have to WinX, once the installation and update woes are done, is the boring, flat, nearly unusable UI. Who tested this and said, "Yes, this is the way to go". Were they those people who have that strange colourblindness that only lets them see in black and white? Do these people only live in houses painted all white, with white carpets and white, vinyl furniture and white painted shelving and other furniture? ...and if they own a dog, or more likely a cat, it's a white one - with long fluffy fur that needs a lot of maintenance? I hereby start a campaign to bring back Colour and the Aero interface to Windows. Who's with me? Torches and pitchforks can be picked up at the lumberyard!

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      I think the biggest objection I have to WinX, once the installation and update woes are done, is the boring, flat, nearly unusable UI. Who tested this and said, "Yes, this is the way to go". Were they those people who have that strange colourblindness that only lets them see in black and white? Do these people only live in houses painted all white, with white carpets and white, vinyl furniture and white painted shelving and other furniture? ...and if they own a dog, or more likely a cat, it's a white one - with long fluffy fur that needs a lot of maintenance? I hereby start a campaign to bring back Colour and the Aero interface to Windows. Who's with me? Torches and pitchforks can be picked up at the lumberyard!

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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        I think the biggest objection I have to WinX, once the installation and update woes are done, is the boring, flat, nearly unusable UI. Who tested this and said, "Yes, this is the way to go". Were they those people who have that strange colourblindness that only lets them see in black and white? Do these people only live in houses painted all white, with white carpets and white, vinyl furniture and white painted shelving and other furniture? ...and if they own a dog, or more likely a cat, it's a white one - with long fluffy fur that needs a lot of maintenance? I hereby start a campaign to bring back Colour and the Aero interface to Windows. Who's with me? Torches and pitchforks can be picked up at the lumberyard!

        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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        Lost User
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        I played with the Win 10 Preview in a VM for a while about a year ago. I seem to recall MS bringing back Aero in an abbreviated form near the end. Did that survive to the GM? Or are you looking for more Aero?

        There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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          I think the biggest objection I have to WinX, once the installation and update woes are done, is the boring, flat, nearly unusable UI. Who tested this and said, "Yes, this is the way to go". Were they those people who have that strange colourblindness that only lets them see in black and white? Do these people only live in houses painted all white, with white carpets and white, vinyl furniture and white painted shelving and other furniture? ...and if they own a dog, or more likely a cat, it's a white one - with long fluffy fur that needs a lot of maintenance? I hereby start a campaign to bring back Colour and the Aero interface to Windows. Who's with me? Torches and pitchforks can be picked up at the lumberyard!

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          Amarnath S
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          Wanted: Look and feel of XP.

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            I played with the Win 10 Preview in a VM for a while about a year ago. I seem to recall MS bringing back Aero in an abbreviated form near the end. Did that survive to the GM? Or are you looking for more Aero?

            There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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            Dan Neely
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            Mike Mullikin wrote:

            Did that survive to the GM?

            It didn't.[^] I suspect the original reasons of making windows look the same on all platforms (including those that never had glass); and the extra GPU load from transparency having a non-trivial hit on battery life (IIRC 5-10%) kept it dead in W10.

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              I think the biggest objection I have to WinX, once the installation and update woes are done, is the boring, flat, nearly unusable UI. Who tested this and said, "Yes, this is the way to go". Were they those people who have that strange colourblindness that only lets them see in black and white? Do these people only live in houses painted all white, with white carpets and white, vinyl furniture and white painted shelving and other furniture? ...and if they own a dog, or more likely a cat, it's a white one - with long fluffy fur that needs a lot of maintenance? I hereby start a campaign to bring back Colour and the Aero interface to Windows. Who's with me? Torches and pitchforks can be picked up at the lumberyard!

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              Kevin Marois
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              I said the same thing when Win 8 came out. What idiot decided that everything should be 2-tone tiles? The Win 8/10/Phone looks reminds me of Win 3.1

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                Wanted: Look and feel of XP.

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                Avijnata wrote:

                Wanted: Look and feel of XP.

                I was thinking the opposite, getting quite tired of the notification that my firewall is off, or that my AV is not active. It was reminding me of 'You have unused icons on your desktop'. :laugh:

                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                  I think the biggest objection I have to WinX, once the installation and update woes are done, is the boring, flat, nearly unusable UI. Who tested this and said, "Yes, this is the way to go". Were they those people who have that strange colourblindness that only lets them see in black and white? Do these people only live in houses painted all white, with white carpets and white, vinyl furniture and white painted shelving and other furniture? ...and if they own a dog, or more likely a cat, it's a white one - with long fluffy fur that needs a lot of maintenance? I hereby start a campaign to bring back Colour and the Aero interface to Windows. Who's with me? Torches and pitchforks can be picked up at the lumberyard!

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  Forogar wrote:

                  Who tested this and said,

                  Not even relevant. A good UI is one that needs no explanation, works as expected, which is predictable and consistent. One tries to keep the UI the same between versions, to prevent having to re-educate people. It saves time and money, and it is not done to change it for the sake of having a change - that costs time and money without adding value. That was the theory. Then some manager comes explain the real world; we will not add features this version, we will only update the UI. People will not buy the software if it looks like the old software. And sadly, that is true. People do not buy cars or software based on specs, but mainly on looks; and it doesn't need to look "great", just "new and sexy".

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                    Forogar wrote:

                    Who tested this and said,

                    Not even relevant. A good UI is one that needs no explanation, works as expected, which is predictable and consistent. One tries to keep the UI the same between versions, to prevent having to re-educate people. It saves time and money, and it is not done to change it for the sake of having a change - that costs time and money without adding value. That was the theory. Then some manager comes explain the real world; we will not add features this version, we will only update the UI. People will not buy the software if it looks like the old software. And sadly, that is true. People do not buy cars or software based on specs, but mainly on looks; and it doesn't need to look "great", just "new and sexy".

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    People do not buy cars or software based on specs, but mainly on looks

                    I don't know who these people are, but that's stupid. The first thing I consider are the specs, but one of the specs is that I consider is it's gotta look good.

                    Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                      People do not buy cars or software based on specs, but mainly on looks

                      I don't know who these people are, but that's stupid. The first thing I consider are the specs, but one of the specs is that I consider is it's gotta look good.

                      Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                      Look good to whom? :~ I'd rather see a cheaper price than an updated "look and feel and experience".

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                        Forogar wrote:

                        Who tested this and said,

                        Not even relevant. A good UI is one that needs no explanation, works as expected, which is predictable and consistent. One tries to keep the UI the same between versions, to prevent having to re-educate people. It saves time and money, and it is not done to change it for the sake of having a change - that costs time and money without adding value. That was the theory. Then some manager comes explain the real world; we will not add features this version, we will only update the UI. People will not buy the software if it looks like the old software. And sadly, that is true. People do not buy cars or software based on specs, but mainly on looks; and it doesn't need to look "great", just "new and sexy".

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                        Forogar
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                        "new and sexy".

                        What's sexy about flat white?

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                          Look good to whom? :~ I'd rather see a cheaper price than an updated "look and feel and experience".

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                          Forogar
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                          a cheaper price

                          Free sounds like it is cheaper - until you factor in the cost of time installing, repairing, updating, re-installing, re-repairing, re-updating and then the cost of new glasses that dim the bright white so you don't ruin your eyes... mutter, mutter, mutter...

                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                            a cheaper price

                            Free sounds like it is cheaper - until you factor in the cost of time installing, repairing, updating, re-installing, re-repairing, re-updating and then the cost of new glasses that dim the bright white so you don't ruin your eyes... mutter, mutter, mutter...

                            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                            Forogar wrote:

                            What's sexy about flat white?

                            I wouldn't know and never dared ask :laugh:

                            Forogar wrote:

                            Free sounds like it is cheaper - until you factor in the

                            ..costs for an entire department. Microsoft is trying hard to stop people from defaulting to choosing Windows :)

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                              Look good to whom? :~ I'd rather see a cheaper price than an updated "look and feel and experience".

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              To ME of course!

                              Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                "new and sexy".

                                What's sexy about flat white?

                                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                That's what HE said...:~

                                Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                  I think the biggest objection I have to WinX, once the installation and update woes are done, is the boring, flat, nearly unusable UI. Who tested this and said, "Yes, this is the way to go". Were they those people who have that strange colourblindness that only lets them see in black and white? Do these people only live in houses painted all white, with white carpets and white, vinyl furniture and white painted shelving and other furniture? ...and if they own a dog, or more likely a cat, it's a white one - with long fluffy fur that needs a lot of maintenance? I hereby start a campaign to bring back Colour and the Aero interface to Windows. Who's with me? Torches and pitchforks can be picked up at the lumberyard!

                                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  Aero was dropped because it takes more processing power than flat colours which decreases battery life.

                                  This space for rent

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                                    Quote:

                                    "new and sexy".

                                    What's sexy about flat white?

                                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                    Forogar wrote:

                                    What's sexy about flat white?

                                    Context is EVERYTHING[^] ;P

                                    There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                                      Aero was dropped because it takes more processing power than flat colours which decreases battery life.

                                      This space for rent

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                                      It should still be an option that can be turned on if the user wants it.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                        It should still be an option that can be turned on if the user wants it.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                        Forogar
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                                        I concur. Why couldn't it be an option? ...because people would switch it on and then complain about battery life being reduced? I don't think so.

                                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                          Forogar wrote:

                                          What's sexy about flat white?

                                          Context is EVERYTHING[^] ;P

                                          There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                                          I don't see the "flat" part! ;P

                                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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