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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    Good 'ol Oracle... :sigh: So I got this table with this column, VARCHAR2 NOT NULL, has been that way for years and it's used in applications, procedures and services. Now a recent change in the software and functionality allows this value to be empty. No problem, I'll just make it an empty string as to not break existing functionality (don't look at me like that, you've all done it!). Unfortunately in Oracle NULL == '' :omg: :wtf: :confused::~ X| :doh: :sigh: So now I have to change the table definition (and the software, services and procedures) to allow for NULL... :sigh: The more I work with Oracle the less I like it... :(

    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

    Regards, Sander

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    Slacker007
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    I like Oracle, probably more than SQL Server. Just took some getting used to, for me, at least. My current projects use SQL Server. It's what we do. It's what I do. Oracle, SQL Server, Visual Studio, it's all good. :)

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Good 'ol Oracle... :sigh: So I got this table with this column, VARCHAR2 NOT NULL, has been that way for years and it's used in applications, procedures and services. Now a recent change in the software and functionality allows this value to be empty. No problem, I'll just make it an empty string as to not break existing functionality (don't look at me like that, you've all done it!). Unfortunately in Oracle NULL == '' :omg: :wtf: :confused::~ X| :doh: :sigh: So now I have to change the table definition (and the software, services and procedures) to allow for NULL... :sigh: The more I work with Oracle the less I like it... :(

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      W Balboos GHB
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      If you had consulted an oracle you'd have foreseen the problems.

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        Good 'ol Oracle... :sigh: So I got this table with this column, VARCHAR2 NOT NULL, has been that way for years and it's used in applications, procedures and services. Now a recent change in the software and functionality allows this value to be empty. No problem, I'll just make it an empty string as to not break existing functionality (don't look at me like that, you've all done it!). Unfortunately in Oracle NULL == '' :omg: :wtf: :confused::~ X| :doh: :sigh: So now I have to change the table definition (and the software, services and procedures) to allow for NULL... :sigh: The more I work with Oracle the less I like it... :(

        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        Being Christmas and all I suddenly thought of: Oracle Oracle on the wall Who's the fairest of them all? :|

        Life is too shor

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          Good 'ol Oracle... :sigh: So I got this table with this column, VARCHAR2 NOT NULL, has been that way for years and it's used in applications, procedures and services. Now a recent change in the software and functionality allows this value to be empty. No problem, I'll just make it an empty string as to not break existing functionality (don't look at me like that, you've all done it!). Unfortunately in Oracle NULL == '' :omg: :wtf: :confused::~ X| :doh: :sigh: So now I have to change the table definition (and the software, services and procedures) to allow for NULL... :sigh: The more I work with Oracle the less I like it... :(

          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          kmoorevs
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          It's one of joys of development...the challenge! What should be simple almost never is! Good luck! :)

          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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          • W W Balboos GHB

            If you had consulted an oracle you'd have foreseen the problems.

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Sander Rossel
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            I did, but I had trouble making an ad-hoc query and then she wanted a package... X|

            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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              It's one of joys of development...the challenge! What should be simple almost never is! Good luck! :)

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              Sander Rossel
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              kmoorevs wrote:

              What should be simple almost never is!

              That pretty much sums up our profession! :thumbsup: :laugh:

              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                I did, but I had trouble making an ad-hoc query and then she wanted a package... X|

                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                W Balboos GHB
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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                she wanted a package

                That's generally true of women . . .

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  Good 'ol Oracle... :sigh: So I got this table with this column, VARCHAR2 NOT NULL, has been that way for years and it's used in applications, procedures and services. Now a recent change in the software and functionality allows this value to be empty. No problem, I'll just make it an empty string as to not break existing functionality (don't look at me like that, you've all done it!). Unfortunately in Oracle NULL == '' :omg: :wtf: :confused::~ X| :doh: :sigh: So now I have to change the table definition (and the software, services and procedures) to allow for NULL... :sigh: The more I work with Oracle the less I like it... :(

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  If it's of any consolation, it's even worse the other direction. If you're used to Oracle and have to work on SQL Server, it's like working with the cousin from the country side

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    So you're dealing with a legacy to support ancient implementations, a possible future where this will be changed, and no way to set a global configuration to change the behavior now for compliant implementations. Yeah, that is a real suck.

                    It really is :sigh:

                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    Well wipe your chin when you're done!

                    Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                    • J Jorgen Andersson

                      If it's of any consolation, it's even worse the other direction. If you're used to Oracle and have to work on SQL Server, it's like working with the cousin from the country side

                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      Now don't you go talkin' ill 'bout dat there SQL Server! And wot's wrong with ma cousin Betty Jo? We two gettin' married next summer! ;p

                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      • W W Balboos GHB

                        If you had consulted an oracle you'd have foreseen the problems.

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        That's if you can afford the oracle's consultation fees

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                        • J Jan Steyn

                          That's if you can afford the oracle's consultation fees

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                          W Balboos GHB
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                          Well, the only way to know for sure is to ask the oracle.*

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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