Star Wars **SPOILERS**
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So I've just seen the new Star Wars. I liked it, but I wasn't like "oohhhhh ahhhh". Many times I had the feeling there are A LOT of parallels with A New Hope. A bigger and badder death star that cannot destroy one, but five planets at once, with, again, a tiny hole weak spot that must be hit by X-Wings? Come one! So the ending was even a bit lame (although we do like bigger and badder Death Stars, admit it!). What's bothering me even more though is that The Republic is basically the intergalactic government. In Episode I to III we see it turn from good (well, as good as governments get) to evil (The Republic becomes The Empire). In Episode IV to VI we see the evil government being defeated by a rebel group. So after Episode VI the government turns good again and the rebels now work together with the government (so technically they're not rebels anymore...). Then how is it that a splinter group, The First Order, can get bigger and mightier than the actual government!? Who funds them? And where is the governments army when the splinter group is building this massive weapon that can destroy five planets using the power of a complete sun!? Using up a sun doesn't seem like a good idea by the way, and where do these suns come from anyway? So that weapon is just over the top crap (it already was in Episode IV, but now it's just to big to turn a blind eye). But destroying five planets? Planets that are rich and that probably fund and provide The First Order with supplies (through illegal channels, I'm sure). If that doesn't negatively impact The First Order directly it will certainly impact them indirectly by destroying the entire galactic economy in one blow. And shouldn't Stormtroopers be loyal to The Republic? So The First Order is basically The Republic, but they're not so they destroy The Republic in one blow and now the story fits again? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but the setting just feels kind of wrong. Still fun to watch :)
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Regards, Sander
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So I've just seen the new Star Wars. I liked it, but I wasn't like "oohhhhh ahhhh". Many times I had the feeling there are A LOT of parallels with A New Hope. A bigger and badder death star that cannot destroy one, but five planets at once, with, again, a tiny hole weak spot that must be hit by X-Wings? Come one! So the ending was even a bit lame (although we do like bigger and badder Death Stars, admit it!). What's bothering me even more though is that The Republic is basically the intergalactic government. In Episode I to III we see it turn from good (well, as good as governments get) to evil (The Republic becomes The Empire). In Episode IV to VI we see the evil government being defeated by a rebel group. So after Episode VI the government turns good again and the rebels now work together with the government (so technically they're not rebels anymore...). Then how is it that a splinter group, The First Order, can get bigger and mightier than the actual government!? Who funds them? And where is the governments army when the splinter group is building this massive weapon that can destroy five planets using the power of a complete sun!? Using up a sun doesn't seem like a good idea by the way, and where do these suns come from anyway? So that weapon is just over the top crap (it already was in Episode IV, but now it's just to big to turn a blind eye). But destroying five planets? Planets that are rich and that probably fund and provide The First Order with supplies (through illegal channels, I'm sure). If that doesn't negatively impact The First Order directly it will certainly impact them indirectly by destroying the entire galactic economy in one blow. And shouldn't Stormtroopers be loyal to The Republic? So The First Order is basically The Republic, but they're not so they destroy The Republic in one blow and now the story fits again? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but the setting just feels kind of wrong. Still fun to watch :)
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Regards, Sander
Yes. The "franchise" continues down hill.
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So I've just seen the new Star Wars. I liked it, but I wasn't like "oohhhhh ahhhh". Many times I had the feeling there are A LOT of parallels with A New Hope. A bigger and badder death star that cannot destroy one, but five planets at once, with, again, a tiny hole weak spot that must be hit by X-Wings? Come one! So the ending was even a bit lame (although we do like bigger and badder Death Stars, admit it!). What's bothering me even more though is that The Republic is basically the intergalactic government. In Episode I to III we see it turn from good (well, as good as governments get) to evil (The Republic becomes The Empire). In Episode IV to VI we see the evil government being defeated by a rebel group. So after Episode VI the government turns good again and the rebels now work together with the government (so technically they're not rebels anymore...). Then how is it that a splinter group, The First Order, can get bigger and mightier than the actual government!? Who funds them? And where is the governments army when the splinter group is building this massive weapon that can destroy five planets using the power of a complete sun!? Using up a sun doesn't seem like a good idea by the way, and where do these suns come from anyway? So that weapon is just over the top crap (it already was in Episode IV, but now it's just to big to turn a blind eye). But destroying five planets? Planets that are rich and that probably fund and provide The First Order with supplies (through illegal channels, I'm sure). If that doesn't negatively impact The First Order directly it will certainly impact them indirectly by destroying the entire galactic economy in one blow. And shouldn't Stormtroopers be loyal to The Republic? So The First Order is basically The Republic, but they're not so they destroy The Republic in one blow and now the story fits again? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but the setting just feels kind of wrong. Still fun to watch :)
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
It sounds like a lame pile of crap. Don't think I will bother watching it. Thanks! :)
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So I've just seen the new Star Wars. I liked it, but I wasn't like "oohhhhh ahhhh". Many times I had the feeling there are A LOT of parallels with A New Hope. A bigger and badder death star that cannot destroy one, but five planets at once, with, again, a tiny hole weak spot that must be hit by X-Wings? Come one! So the ending was even a bit lame (although we do like bigger and badder Death Stars, admit it!). What's bothering me even more though is that The Republic is basically the intergalactic government. In Episode I to III we see it turn from good (well, as good as governments get) to evil (The Republic becomes The Empire). In Episode IV to VI we see the evil government being defeated by a rebel group. So after Episode VI the government turns good again and the rebels now work together with the government (so technically they're not rebels anymore...). Then how is it that a splinter group, The First Order, can get bigger and mightier than the actual government!? Who funds them? And where is the governments army when the splinter group is building this massive weapon that can destroy five planets using the power of a complete sun!? Using up a sun doesn't seem like a good idea by the way, and where do these suns come from anyway? So that weapon is just over the top crap (it already was in Episode IV, but now it's just to big to turn a blind eye). But destroying five planets? Planets that are rich and that probably fund and provide The First Order with supplies (through illegal channels, I'm sure). If that doesn't negatively impact The First Order directly it will certainly impact them indirectly by destroying the entire galactic economy in one blow. And shouldn't Stormtroopers be loyal to The Republic? So The First Order is basically The Republic, but they're not so they destroy The Republic in one blow and now the story fits again? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but the setting just feels kind of wrong. Still fun to watch :)
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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So I've just seen the new Star Wars. I liked it, but I wasn't like "oohhhhh ahhhh". Many times I had the feeling there are A LOT of parallels with A New Hope. A bigger and badder death star that cannot destroy one, but five planets at once, with, again, a tiny hole weak spot that must be hit by X-Wings? Come one! So the ending was even a bit lame (although we do like bigger and badder Death Stars, admit it!). What's bothering me even more though is that The Republic is basically the intergalactic government. In Episode I to III we see it turn from good (well, as good as governments get) to evil (The Republic becomes The Empire). In Episode IV to VI we see the evil government being defeated by a rebel group. So after Episode VI the government turns good again and the rebels now work together with the government (so technically they're not rebels anymore...). Then how is it that a splinter group, The First Order, can get bigger and mightier than the actual government!? Who funds them? And where is the governments army when the splinter group is building this massive weapon that can destroy five planets using the power of a complete sun!? Using up a sun doesn't seem like a good idea by the way, and where do these suns come from anyway? So that weapon is just over the top crap (it already was in Episode IV, but now it's just to big to turn a blind eye). But destroying five planets? Planets that are rich and that probably fund and provide The First Order with supplies (through illegal channels, I'm sure). If that doesn't negatively impact The First Order directly it will certainly impact them indirectly by destroying the entire galactic economy in one blow. And shouldn't Stormtroopers be loyal to The Republic? So The First Order is basically The Republic, but they're not so they destroy The Republic in one blow and now the story fits again? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but the setting just feels kind of wrong. Still fun to watch :)
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
What did you think of how the new and supposedly super bad super scary bad guy got beaten first by a stormtrooper specialized in sanitation and then again by a young lady who picked up a light saber for the first time in her life 4 hours earlier?
Regards, Nish
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What did you think of how the new and supposedly super bad super scary bad guy got beaten first by a stormtrooper specialized in sanitation and then again by a young lady who picked up a light saber for the first time in her life 4 hours earlier?
Regards, Nish
Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Yeah, a friend of mine said the exact same thing. I agree that it's odd, but Kylo was hurt, the stormtrooper trained in combat (and he still lost), and the lady was about to lose, but then got some Force injection or whatever. So yeah... I guess I'm ok with it.
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Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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So I've just seen the new Star Wars. I liked it, but I wasn't like "oohhhhh ahhhh". Many times I had the feeling there are A LOT of parallels with A New Hope. A bigger and badder death star that cannot destroy one, but five planets at once, with, again, a tiny hole weak spot that must be hit by X-Wings? Come one! So the ending was even a bit lame (although we do like bigger and badder Death Stars, admit it!). What's bothering me even more though is that The Republic is basically the intergalactic government. In Episode I to III we see it turn from good (well, as good as governments get) to evil (The Republic becomes The Empire). In Episode IV to VI we see the evil government being defeated by a rebel group. So after Episode VI the government turns good again and the rebels now work together with the government (so technically they're not rebels anymore...). Then how is it that a splinter group, The First Order, can get bigger and mightier than the actual government!? Who funds them? And where is the governments army when the splinter group is building this massive weapon that can destroy five planets using the power of a complete sun!? Using up a sun doesn't seem like a good idea by the way, and where do these suns come from anyway? So that weapon is just over the top crap (it already was in Episode IV, but now it's just to big to turn a blind eye). But destroying five planets? Planets that are rich and that probably fund and provide The First Order with supplies (through illegal channels, I'm sure). If that doesn't negatively impact The First Order directly it will certainly impact them indirectly by destroying the entire galactic economy in one blow. And shouldn't Stormtroopers be loyal to The Republic? So The First Order is basically The Republic, but they're not so they destroy The Republic in one blow and now the story fits again? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but the setting just feels kind of wrong. Still fun to watch :)
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
I made the mistake of watching it twice. The first time, it was a really good movie. The second time I started overthinking things and it started to become a bit contrived and unbelievable. Your examples are the tip of the iceberg. I always thought the only thing that could stop a light saber blade was another light saber blade. But apparently the storm troopers have AND CARRY weapons to counter them now? And when there was only one known light saber in the last 30 years - held by their side? Also, the light saber they found couldn't have been Luke's or Vader's. Vader's went down the Death Star shaft with his hand and Luke threw his in afterwards (see Episode VI). I suppose Luke could rebuild one. But then I don't understand why they thought it was Vader's or Kylo Ren should claim it as his. This is basically a rehash of episode IV only with a jedi-in-training that figures things out much faster with no teacher and a dark-lord-in-training that can't seem figure anything out (I never saw Vader stick out his hand and wave it at someone - as if it helps him read minds). I really did not like the big "orc". It took me right out of this movie and put me in "Lord of the Rings". Anyway, still a movie I would recommend seeing on the big screen and not waiting for the DVD.
Brent
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I made the mistake of watching it twice. The first time, it was a really good movie. The second time I started overthinking things and it started to become a bit contrived and unbelievable. Your examples are the tip of the iceberg. I always thought the only thing that could stop a light saber blade was another light saber blade. But apparently the storm troopers have AND CARRY weapons to counter them now? And when there was only one known light saber in the last 30 years - held by their side? Also, the light saber they found couldn't have been Luke's or Vader's. Vader's went down the Death Star shaft with his hand and Luke threw his in afterwards (see Episode VI). I suppose Luke could rebuild one. But then I don't understand why they thought it was Vader's or Kylo Ren should claim it as his. This is basically a rehash of episode IV only with a jedi-in-training that figures things out much faster with no teacher and a dark-lord-in-training that can't seem figure anything out (I never saw Vader stick out his hand and wave it at someone - as if it helps him read minds). I really did not like the big "orc". It took me right out of this movie and put me in "Lord of the Rings". Anyway, still a movie I would recommend seeing on the big screen and not waiting for the DVD.
Brent
Now you've gone and ruined it just a little more :laugh:
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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So I've just seen the new Star Wars. I liked it, but I wasn't like "oohhhhh ahhhh". Many times I had the feeling there are A LOT of parallels with A New Hope. A bigger and badder death star that cannot destroy one, but five planets at once, with, again, a tiny hole weak spot that must be hit by X-Wings? Come one! So the ending was even a bit lame (although we do like bigger and badder Death Stars, admit it!). What's bothering me even more though is that The Republic is basically the intergalactic government. In Episode I to III we see it turn from good (well, as good as governments get) to evil (The Republic becomes The Empire). In Episode IV to VI we see the evil government being defeated by a rebel group. So after Episode VI the government turns good again and the rebels now work together with the government (so technically they're not rebels anymore...). Then how is it that a splinter group, The First Order, can get bigger and mightier than the actual government!? Who funds them? And where is the governments army when the splinter group is building this massive weapon that can destroy five planets using the power of a complete sun!? Using up a sun doesn't seem like a good idea by the way, and where do these suns come from anyway? So that weapon is just over the top crap (it already was in Episode IV, but now it's just to big to turn a blind eye). But destroying five planets? Planets that are rich and that probably fund and provide The First Order with supplies (through illegal channels, I'm sure). If that doesn't negatively impact The First Order directly it will certainly impact them indirectly by destroying the entire galactic economy in one blow. And shouldn't Stormtroopers be loyal to The Republic? So The First Order is basically The Republic, but they're not so they destroy The Republic in one blow and now the story fits again? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but the setting just feels kind of wrong. Still fun to watch :)
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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I made the mistake of watching it twice. The first time, it was a really good movie. The second time I started overthinking things and it started to become a bit contrived and unbelievable. Your examples are the tip of the iceberg. I always thought the only thing that could stop a light saber blade was another light saber blade. But apparently the storm troopers have AND CARRY weapons to counter them now? And when there was only one known light saber in the last 30 years - held by their side? Also, the light saber they found couldn't have been Luke's or Vader's. Vader's went down the Death Star shaft with his hand and Luke threw his in afterwards (see Episode VI). I suppose Luke could rebuild one. But then I don't understand why they thought it was Vader's or Kylo Ren should claim it as his. This is basically a rehash of episode IV only with a jedi-in-training that figures things out much faster with no teacher and a dark-lord-in-training that can't seem figure anything out (I never saw Vader stick out his hand and wave it at someone - as if it helps him read minds). I really did not like the big "orc". It took me right out of this movie and put me in "Lord of the Rings". Anyway, still a movie I would recommend seeing on the big screen and not waiting for the DVD.
Brent
Yeah I loved it as I exited the theater. I came home and re-analyzed what I saw and then I started seeing all these gaping holes :-(
Regards, Nish
Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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I made the mistake of watching it twice. The first time, it was a really good movie. The second time I started overthinking things and it started to become a bit contrived and unbelievable. Your examples are the tip of the iceberg. I always thought the only thing that could stop a light saber blade was another light saber blade. But apparently the storm troopers have AND CARRY weapons to counter them now? And when there was only one known light saber in the last 30 years - held by their side? Also, the light saber they found couldn't have been Luke's or Vader's. Vader's went down the Death Star shaft with his hand and Luke threw his in afterwards (see Episode VI). I suppose Luke could rebuild one. But then I don't understand why they thought it was Vader's or Kylo Ren should claim it as his. This is basically a rehash of episode IV only with a jedi-in-training that figures things out much faster with no teacher and a dark-lord-in-training that can't seem figure anything out (I never saw Vader stick out his hand and wave it at someone - as if it helps him read minds). I really did not like the big "orc". It took me right out of this movie and put me in "Lord of the Rings". Anyway, still a movie I would recommend seeing on the big screen and not waiting for the DVD.
Brent
Yes, it is completely contrived, but set up to be a continuous story with the same characters playing their next parts to keep the original watchers coming back. But, we all know, it's about the special effects. Keep waiting for Star Wars VIII.
