Windows 10 Update
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I have a Nexus 7 lying around here that was perfect when we bought it. After 2-3 OS updates it's slow and unusable. I did not know you could force downgrade it.
Regards, Nish
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Yes - it's not difficult - though you lose all your data as the flash needs to be erased. Have a look here: Installing Android 5.1 directly on your Nexus 7 2012 Wifi[^] - it works exactly the same in reverse to wipe out 5.1 and reinstall an earlier version. I use 4.4 as it's the last "totally stable" Nexus 7 release. Just make sure you have good USB ADB drivers, or the "adb reboot bootloader" works fine, but that's that last communications you get with the tablet, and the unlock command just sits there with "waiting for device"... Downgrade takes about ten minutes and a USB cable.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Warning : Upgrade your primary desktop/laptop at your own peril! Driver support is phenomenally sub-par at the moment.
Regards, Nish
Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Drivers do become available - however it is a bit of a gamble. I bought an HP mini PC[^](which, by the way, I think is a fantastic computer and really good value) to replace my security computer and installed Windows 10. I rolled back the changes to Windows 7 out of frustration. 7 days later I tried again and everything worked perfectly - I put it down to webcam drivers having been fixed in the meantime or something connected with webcam drivers.
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Yes - it's not difficult - though you lose all your data as the flash needs to be erased. Have a look here: Installing Android 5.1 directly on your Nexus 7 2012 Wifi[^] - it works exactly the same in reverse to wipe out 5.1 and reinstall an earlier version. I use 4.4 as it's the last "totally stable" Nexus 7 release. Just make sure you have good USB ADB drivers, or the "adb reboot bootloader" works fine, but that's that last communications you get with the tablet, and the unlock command just sits there with "waiting for device"... Downgrade takes about ten minutes and a USB cable.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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You're welcome!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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[^] That will sort it.
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If you're going to go to Win10 DO NOT DO THE UPGRADE! Trust me. Bad things can and will happen and you will probably end up with an unstable system. Instead, backup everything you want to keep and do a wipe and clean install of Win10 from the LATEST image you can get your hands on. The process will go much nicer and use the latest drivers. Then, when it's done, go to the vendor sites for all of your hardware and download and install the OEM's drivers for your hardware and get off Microsoft drivers. Yes, those are supplied by the manufacturer but they are usually a bit behind the latest from the vendor version.
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Dave Kreskowiak -
If you're going to go to Win10 DO NOT DO THE UPGRADE! Trust me. Bad things can and will happen and you will probably end up with an unstable system. Instead, backup everything you want to keep and do a wipe and clean install of Win10 from the LATEST image you can get your hands on. The process will go much nicer and use the latest drivers. Then, when it's done, go to the vendor sites for all of your hardware and download and install the OEM's drivers for your hardware and get off Microsoft drivers. Yes, those are supplied by the manufacturer but they are usually a bit behind the latest from the vendor version.
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Dave KreskowiakDave, I was told here on CP to do the upgrade first, and follow that up with a clean install, for the following reason:
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It is important to do the upgrade first, then follow up with a clean install. When you upgrade your machine is registered with Microsoft as eligible for Win 10, and you won't need an expensive activation code later - during the clean install. Just skip the parts where a clean install asks for the activation code.
I have done this on a few machines, including one that was totally messed up by the upgrade, and after the upgrade I formatted the systems drive and did a clean install. This worked for me every time. Windows 10 was activated immediately after a clean install. Also: I believe the 10586 build is the latest Win 10 version. Using this ISO will spare you a later, lengthy upgrade.
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Dave, I was told here on CP to do the upgrade first, and follow that up with a clean install, for the following reason:
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It is important to do the upgrade first, then follow up with a clean install. When you upgrade your machine is registered with Microsoft as eligible for Win 10, and you won't need an expensive activation code later - during the clean install. Just skip the parts where a clean install asks for the activation code.
I have done this on a few machines, including one that was totally messed up by the upgrade, and after the upgrade I formatted the systems drive and did a clean install. This worked for me every time. Windows 10 was activated immediately after a clean install. Also: I believe the 10586 build is the latest Win 10 version. Using this ISO will spare you a later, lengthy upgrade.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
The one big assumption there is that the machine actually makes it through the upgrade! Mine didn't. The upgrade bricked and I could not get it to restore back to Win7. I had no choice but to wipe the machine and install from DVD.
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Dave Kreskowiak -
The one big assumption there is that the machine actually makes it through the upgrade! Mine didn't. The upgrade bricked and I could not get it to restore back to Win7. I had no choice but to wipe the machine and install from DVD.
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Dave Kreskowiak -
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The last updates for Win10 made it instable so booting is problematic. Maybe the cause is some UEFI Bios new problem on Win10.:confused::confused::confused: Tip: really not NOW - maybe next month
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Yes, but only because I used the image off of MSDN.
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Dave Kreskowiak -
I am the original poster. I have windows 7. When I said 'go away' to windows 10, I meant the continual annoying interfering push when updating 7 to switch to 10! My Linux box is standing by for 2020...
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Dude, Windows 7 is over a decade old now. Let go already! There is no point in holding onto antediluvian technology.
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Dude, Windows 7 is over a decade old now. Let go already! There is no point in holding onto antediluvian technology.
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Dude, Windows 7 is over a decade old now. Let go already! There is no point in holding onto antediluvian technology.
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VE2 wrote:
It has been described as a privacy nightmare
Mainly by people who don't know what they're talking about: When it comes to Windows 10 privacy, don't trust amateur analysts - The Insider News - CodeProject[^]
VE2 wrote:
no pop3 mail client
Don't know where you've got that idea from - the Windows 10 Mail app supports POP3: How to Configure a POP3 Email Account in Windows 10[^] And if you don't like that, Windows Essentials 2012 still works: Windows Essentials - Microsoft Windows[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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VE2 wrote:
It has been described as a privacy nightmare
Mainly by people who don't know what they're talking about: When it comes to Windows 10 privacy, don't trust amateur analysts - The Insider News - CodeProject[^]
VE2 wrote:
no pop3 mail client
Don't know where you've got that idea from - the Windows 10 Mail app supports POP3: How to Configure a POP3 Email Account in Windows 10[^] And if you don't like that, Windows Essentials 2012 still works: Windows Essentials - Microsoft Windows[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
I use POP3 on Windows 10 so I know that was patently false. Talk about 'antediluvian', pretty sure POP3 is older than me. :laugh:
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I use POP3 on Windows 10 so I know that was patently false. Talk about 'antediluvian', pretty sure POP3 is older than me. :laugh:
Camilo Reyes wrote:
pretty sure POP3 is older than me. :laugh:
Unfortunately, I can't say the same. I even pre-date POP1! :sigh:
Post Office Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^]:
POP1 was specified in RFC 918 (1984), POP2 by RFC 937 (1985). POP3 originated with RFC 1081 (1988).
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
