Is Win10 the biggest Microsoft con since Vista ?

[Richard Deeming]

R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

I will never use an Xbox so will spend some time figuring out how to uninstall that app.

Powershell:

How to Uninstall Windows 10’s Built-in Apps (and How to Reinstall Them)[^]

Get-AppxPackage *xboxapp* | Remove-AppxPackage

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[Lost User]

I simply disabled the Xbox services. Seems to work. :^)

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[Daniel Pfeffer]

1. I haven't measured the boot times, but on modern hardware (SSD drive) both Win7 and Win10 boot quickly enough - I turn on the computer before I sit down, and by the time I've made myself comfortable the login screen is displayed. 2. As long as the foreground applications (and their dependencies) have priority, why should I care what the O/S is doing in the background? 3. Agreed. However, methods to remove these applications exist (one given in this message tree). 4. More telemetry - definitely. Whether that translates into security breaches remains to be seen. OTOH, what is Microsoft doing that Apple and Google haven't done for years? 5. I recently reinstalled Win7 Service Pack 1 on a PC. Over 140 updates were available via Windows Update, which translates into more than 1 update/month. What's your point?

If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

[dandy72]

Member 11720681 wrote:

1 has a much longer boot than 7/8.1

Not here it isn't, but my anecdotes aren't any less valid than yours.

Member 11720681 wrote:

2 has a "phase2 boot" (after the desktop displays it continues to spin the hard drive to complete the boot process)

This bothers you?

Member 11720681 wrote:

3 is loaded with "junk" apps that can't be uninstalled (e.g. OneNote)

I happen to use OneNote. If you're going to complain about junk software, look no further than the Metro apps (or whatever they're called this week)

Member 11720681 wrote:

4 is no more secure than Win7/8.1

What metric do you use to quantify that?

Member 11720681 wrote:

5 requires more 'updates' per month than 7/8.1

I don't know about you, but I tend to get one big fat cumulative update for Windows 10 each Patch Tuesday rather than 7/8's flood of smaller ones which, cumulatively, take longer to install.

[kmoorevs]

I never really had a problem with Vista, and so far, am having no very few problems with 10...maybe I'm just lucky? :) Since I got 10 on a clean SSD, boot time is usually less than 10 seconds.

"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

[Mycroft Holmes]

OriginalGriff wrote:

I'm not going to quibble over 40GB!

Had to laugh, I remember getting excited when I upgraded my 5mb drive to 20mb. true it was in the dark ages!

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

[NetDave]

Also, don't forget to disable "telemetrics and data collection" and to check periodically to make sure the updates haven't re-enabled them.

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[Mycroft Holmes]

Wait for it, subscription service starts next year!

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

[R Giskard Reventlov]

Thanks. Didn't work the first time so I got a list of all the installed apps and then uninstalled anything with xbox.

[GStrad]

Mycroft Holmes wrote:

when I upgraded my 5mb drive to 20mb. true it was in the dark ages!

And I thought it was bad my first HD was 30Mb (and attached to an Atari ST).