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  • S Sascha Lefevre

    Strangely, neither. 360° ^= 2.06 or something thereabouts.

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    Works for me: Dropbox - waveAt0.png[^] Dropbox - waveAt0Added.png[^] Dropbox - waveAtPi.png[^] Dropbox - waveAtPiAdded.png[^]

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      Works for me: Dropbox - waveAt0.png[^] Dropbox - waveAt0Added.png[^] Dropbox - waveAtPi.png[^] Dropbox - waveAtPiAdded.png[^]

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      Yes, now that I've learned how to click the "pi" button on Microsoft Calc, I'm home free.

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        Works for me: Dropbox - waveAt0.png[^] Dropbox - waveAt0Added.png[^] Dropbox - waveAtPi.png[^] Dropbox - waveAtPiAdded.png[^]

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        Sascha Lefevre
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        Looks like there's something weird going on with frequency and phase shift: Take 3.1415 as phase shift and then look at the graphs for the frequencies 1 and 2.. That 2.06 value I got with a frequency of 3: Look at phase shifts 0, 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2.06 ..

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Radians, not degrees, I think: try 3.1415

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            I am looking for a website which will allow me to add sine waves. Can someone tell me what question to ask Google ? I know several questions that ***don't*** work. I want to... - Input the frequency - Input the phase angle - Input the amplitude (nice to have, not required) - Click on a button - See the resulting wave form (save as PNG or whatever would be nice) These phrases and questions don't work... - *free online graphing tool to add two sine waves together - online graph, adding two sine waves together - add two sine waves together - add two sound waves together - Add two frequencies - Online Tone generator* Certainly I'm not the only guy on the internet who has ever wanted this. What question do I ask ? How do I phrase it ?

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            IMHO, having the words - 'superpose', 'superposition' - may yield better results.

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            • S Sascha Lefevre

              Looks like there's something weird going on with frequency and phase shift: Take 3.1415 as phase shift and then look at the graphs for the frequencies 1 and 2.. That 2.06 value I got with a frequency of 3: Look at phase shifts 0, 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2.06 ..

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              It looks fine for me: 2.06 radians as a phase shift with a frequency of 3 looks about right given that

              3 * (2.06 / 2) = 3.09 ~= π

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                Wikipedia:

                In general, mathematically important relationships between the sine and cosine functions and the exponential function (see, for example, Euler's formula) are substantially simplified when angles are expressed in radians, rather than in degrees, grads or other units. Therefore, in most branches of mathematics beyond practical geometry, angles are generally assumed to be expressed in radians.

                And that's the case in .NET or JavaScript and Java and PHP too...All except radians and not degrees...

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                360 degrees is just for the stupid humans since we like whole numbers. Non-rational numbers aren't so nice for us. Pi is a number to describe the relations in a circle, and it is basically how Sinus and Cosinus are defined.

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                  I am looking for a website which will allow me to add sine waves. Can someone tell me what question to ask Google ? I know several questions that ***don't*** work. I want to... - Input the frequency - Input the phase angle - Input the amplitude (nice to have, not required) - Click on a button - See the resulting wave form (save as PNG or whatever would be nice) These phrases and questions don't work... - *free online graphing tool to add two sine waves together - online graph, adding two sine waves together - add two sine waves together - add two sound waves together - Add two frequencies - Online Tone generator* Certainly I'm not the only guy on the internet who has ever wanted this. What question do I ask ? How do I phrase it ?

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                  Kenneth Haugland
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                  If you have problems finding this on google, you might just as well create a program that does it :D

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                    Nice catch. Thank you and you are voted up My physics is messed up. If I add two sine waves, same amplitude, same frequency, but off by 180 degrees, I'm supposed to get zero. Wave Adder gives me a much lower amplitude, but not zero. Am I missing something ? Maybe congress changed the laws of physics.

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                    Maybe congress changed the laws of physics.

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                    • K Kenneth Haugland

                      360 degrees is just for the stupid humans since we like whole numbers. Non-rational numbers aren't so nice for us. Pi is a number to describe the relations in a circle, and it is basically how Sinus and Cosinus are defined.

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                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                      how Sinus and Cosinus are defined

                      Are you sure about that? The ratio of sides of a triangle is totally independent of the units used to measure the angle.

                      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                      • K Kenneth Haugland

                        360 degrees is just for the stupid humans since we like whole numbers. Non-rational numbers aren't so nice for us. Pi is a number to describe the relations in a circle, and it is basically how Sinus and Cosinus are defined.

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                        I think that 2π is very nice...

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                        • K Kenneth Haugland

                          360 degrees is just for the stupid humans since we like whole numbers. Non-rational numbers aren't so nice for us. Pi is a number to describe the relations in a circle, and it is basically how Sinus and Cosinus are defined.

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                          That's why I bought a watch in 2 PI :laugh:

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            It looks fine for me: 2.06 radians as a phase shift with a frequency of 3 looks about right given that

                            3 * (2.06 / 2) = 3.09 ~= π

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                            The effect of the phase shift should be independent of the frequency. A phase shift of π will always "flip" a sine graph horizontally. Now enter a frequency of 2 and look at the graphs for a phase shift of 0 and then 3.141 :laugh:

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                              I think that 2π is very nice...

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                              I prefer ><(((o> π

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                              • S Sascha Lefevre

                                The effect of the phase shift should be independent of the frequency. A phase shift of π will always "flip" a sine graph horizontally. Now enter a frequency of 2 and look at the graphs for a phase shift of 0 and then 3.141 :laugh:

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                                See what you mean, but I see what they are doing as well.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  I prefer ><(((o> π

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                                  I meant apple π and cherry π :-D

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                                    See what you mean, but I see what they are doing as well.

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                                    Sascha Lefevre
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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    but I see what they are doing as well.

                                    Don't think so: f=2, p=0 -> draw yellow, add, add -> double amplitude f=2, p=0 -> draw yellow, add; f=2, p=3.141 -> add -> double amplitude, should be flat.

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                                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                      how Sinus and Cosinus are defined

                                      Are you sure about that? The ratio of sides of a triangle is totally independent of the units used to measure the angle.

                                      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                                      Well, its all connected: Sin(2*pi*n) = 0 Without pi the Taylor series is sin and cosine is pretty much useless in Fourier Transform for instance.

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                                        I meant apple π and cherry π :-D

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                                        OriginalGriff
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                                        Wouldn't that be iπ?

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                                          I think that 2π is very nice...

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                                          Shakespeare Geometry: 2π or not 2π? (That is the question.)

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