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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    Didn't go very well. Installed Ubuntu in VMWare player, worked fine. Downloaded some updates, restarted, works not so fine. It hanged at startup on "Stopping Restore Sound Card State". Removed the virtual sound card and it now hangs on "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility". I guess the same goes for Linux as for Windows, don't install updates :sigh:

    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

    Regards, Sander

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    SirWernich
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    i had many first times... 1: managed to install solaris in 2005 - somehow got a gui once and never again. no idea what was going on. gave up. 2: installed some sort of linux distro we used as a firewall as work in 2009. didn't know what was going on; no gui. gave up. 3: installed centos in 2013. made an enormous cockup while trying to be clever with the partitions. spent two days trying to fix the grub bootloader and editing various things using vim. had no idea what i was doing and didn't get it right. enjoyed all of it for some reason. reinstalled successfully and played around with it for a bit and now i like linux, but i hardly ever get a chance to use it. but i try.

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Didn't go very well. Installed Ubuntu in VMWare player, worked fine. Downloaded some updates, restarted, works not so fine. It hanged at startup on "Stopping Restore Sound Card State". Removed the virtual sound card and it now hangs on "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility". I guess the same goes for Linux as for Windows, don't install updates :sigh:

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      sir_download_alot
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      Never really understood why I have to get back to the console area...

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        Never really understood why I have to get back to the console area...

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        Sander Rossel
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        Me neither, I hate the console. Makes me feel like I live in the 70's/80's, and I didn't. Still, Linux is free so it's easy and cheap to spin up a VM for personal use :D

        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        • B Brisingr Aerowing

          VMWare player? I see your problem. Try VirtualBox. I have had much better experiences with it. VMWare never worked for me. From crashes to corrupted VMs, there was no end to the problems.

          What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

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          Sander Rossel
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          I'll check it out :D

          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          • S Super Lloyd

            I have Hyper-V up and running. (you do have to tinker with BIOS option) With my fine Hyper-V I installed run Linux Ubuntu no worries! Then I forgot about it and never went back to it! :laugh:

            All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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            Sander Rossel
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            I had to turn off Hyper-V. I think VMWare and Hyper-V don't work well together, if you want one you'll have to turn off the other. There was this quick command that turned it on or off... I needed it for a Windows Phone Emulator, that wasn't fun as I really need both. Spend an afternoon editing some code, restarting, testing, restarting, editing, restarting, etc. :laugh:

            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            • L Lost User

              My first Linux experiences went very well: - Installed Mint. - Installed Wine. To my surprise: W32 App including SQL Server works perfect.

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              Sander Rossel
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              Unfortunately Mint doesn't give me the right screen resolution and it ignores the VMWare Player. Other than that it seems to work fine.

              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              • 9 9082365

                raddevus wrote:

                This _IS_ the _YEAR_ of the LINUX DESKTOP!!!!!

                Again?

                I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                GStrad
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                If I had a pound for every year that has been the year of the linux desktop, I could probably buy a few beers.

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  Unfortunately Mint doesn't give me the right screen resolution and it ignores the VMWare Player. Other than that it seems to work fine.

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  Lost User
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                  I installed it on Oracle VM VirtualBox. What Screen Resolution it does not allow? Maybe you find a solution here: Add new screen resolution in Linux Mint - Linux Mint Community[^]

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                  • L Lost User

                    I installed it on Oracle VM VirtualBox. What Screen Resolution it does not allow? Maybe you find a solution here: Add new screen resolution in Linux Mint - Linux Mint Community[^]

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                    User 12302808
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                    no matter what: make sure you get the extensions installed - then all should be fine

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      Didn't go very well. Installed Ubuntu in VMWare player, worked fine. Downloaded some updates, restarted, works not so fine. It hanged at startup on "Stopping Restore Sound Card State". Removed the virtual sound card and it now hangs on "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility". I guess the same goes for Linux as for Windows, don't install updates :sigh:

                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      User 12302808
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                      Well had similar experiences. Let me tell you what happened: tried Ubuntu, Arch, OpenSUSE and Mint in VM - installed Mint for dual boot - started windows less and less - last xmas (!) I had enough and removed the stupid windows partition to make space for my steam games - now I am a very Happy Linux user :D I'm fine with this: Windows at work, Linux at home - besides VisualStudio I miss nothing on Linux - the other way ... well let's say I am at the point where I happily install emacs just to get eshell ^^ IMO if you are a programmer that is not married to Microsoft (you don't develop .net or work in an AD environment) then you should go for Linux - it's just the saner choice.

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                        Well had similar experiences. Let me tell you what happened: tried Ubuntu, Arch, OpenSUSE and Mint in VM - installed Mint for dual boot - started windows less and less - last xmas (!) I had enough and removed the stupid windows partition to make space for my steam games - now I am a very Happy Linux user :D I'm fine with this: Windows at work, Linux at home - besides VisualStudio I miss nothing on Linux - the other way ... well let's say I am at the point where I happily install emacs just to get eshell ^^ IMO if you are a programmer that is not married to Microsoft (you don't develop .net or work in an AD environment) then you should go for Linux - it's just the saner choice.

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                        Codeman the Barbarian
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                        I basically had the exact same experience, just add a few more distos to the tried list. Even had a spare laptop and installed them right to hardware. Now I'm running Mint in Dual boot, and only use Windows for games. Mint is my daily machine. I even have VMware workstation on my Linux host and run a Win VM for .NET programming.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          Didn't go very well. Installed Ubuntu in VMWare player, worked fine. Downloaded some updates, restarted, works not so fine. It hanged at startup on "Stopping Restore Sound Card State". Removed the virtual sound card and it now hangs on "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility". I guess the same goes for Linux as for Windows, don't install updates :sigh:

                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          DarkChuky CR
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                          I remember when I did it... the installation and config was not bad, it went well.... the problem was when I start using it... dude, totally lost, and the applications and easy stuff I used to do in Win, were totally a mess. In my case I installed a fresh version in a separated Hard Disk, so no boot issues at all, I just chose what HDD want to start from the Bios Boot sequence, that allowed no intrusion from Win into Linux, or Linux on Win (I could remove anyone without problems) Then even if it was a more stable, OS, my final user experience was so bad, that I toke me some minutes to understand that no one in my home or office would be able to use it, they will not be able to find the apps or do their work. You can compare it to today's Windows Phone vs (Android or Iphone) even when Windows Phone requires less Hardware and resources, is faster, you can call it Better, people doesn't like it cause they don't know how to use it, even when you teach them how to use, they will not like it cause the rest of the world is not using it!!!

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                            My first Linux experiences went very well: - Installed Mint. - Installed Wine. To my surprise: W32 App including SQL Server works perfect.

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                            sasadler
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                            Yeah, my Mint Linux experience was good too. The only thing that wasn't working after the install was the printer. Just had to go to the Brother's website, download and install. So far (about 3 months now) everything is working great. It helps that I pretty much just use open source/cross platform applications for my normal computing needs (Firefox, Thunderbird, Octave, Libre Office, g++, etc). I really like being in control of my own freaking computer!

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                              I remember when I did it... the installation and config was not bad, it went well.... the problem was when I start using it... dude, totally lost, and the applications and easy stuff I used to do in Win, were totally a mess. In my case I installed a fresh version in a separated Hard Disk, so no boot issues at all, I just chose what HDD want to start from the Bios Boot sequence, that allowed no intrusion from Win into Linux, or Linux on Win (I could remove anyone without problems) Then even if it was a more stable, OS, my final user experience was so bad, that I toke me some minutes to understand that no one in my home or office would be able to use it, they will not be able to find the apps or do their work. You can compare it to today's Windows Phone vs (Android or Iphone) even when Windows Phone requires less Hardware and resources, is faster, you can call it Better, people doesn't like it cause they don't know how to use it, even when you teach them how to use, they will not like it cause the rest of the world is not using it!!!

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                              Sander Rossel
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                              DarkChuky CR wrote:

                              You can compare it to today's Windows Phone vs (Android or Iphone)

                              Windows Phone is my favorite actually! Very easy to use. To bad it's missing the apps :( I had more trouble getting used to Android. Everything Apple is a disaster by default :)

                              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

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                                Well had similar experiences. Let me tell you what happened: tried Ubuntu, Arch, OpenSUSE and Mint in VM - installed Mint for dual boot - started windows less and less - last xmas (!) I had enough and removed the stupid windows partition to make space for my steam games - now I am a very Happy Linux user :D I'm fine with this: Windows at work, Linux at home - besides VisualStudio I miss nothing on Linux - the other way ... well let's say I am at the point where I happily install emacs just to get eshell ^^ IMO if you are a programmer that is not married to Microsoft (you don't develop .net or work in an AD environment) then you should go for Linux - it's just the saner choice.

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                                Sander Rossel
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                                I develop .NET with SQL Server back-ends :D I want some Linux to try something else for a change and to mess around with some tools like Docker, Jenkins, what have you, without messing up my working machine. I'm currently at Mint, but I get some issues with screen resolutions...

                                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  DarkChuky CR wrote:

                                  You can compare it to today's Windows Phone vs (Android or Iphone)

                                  Windows Phone is my favorite actually! Very easy to use. To bad it's missing the apps :( I had more trouble getting used to Android. Everything Apple is a disaster by default :)

                                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                  Regards, Sander

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                                  DarkChuky CR
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                                  Agree, as Android had growth to become a more complex OS, it now suffer from the issues of bigger OS: more memory, more processor, too much default background process, less battery life, and developers are like we got a lot of memory, who cares!!!.... I got one Lumia 625 for free, and I was like WTF how can this phone do all this with just 512MB!!! now got my hands in a lumia 1520 and I'm like what a beast!!! I wanted it to try to develop some Apps, and now I'm using it as my main phone, it's quicker, easier and faster, only current issues is Whatsapp not being able to save pictures in a different folder, dude everything is spaming in the photos app, but everything else is awesome, got all the apps I was using for real in my old Note 2. (now my Note 2 is taking vacations, it's safely stored in my home desk)

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    Didn't go very well. Installed Ubuntu in VMWare player, worked fine. Downloaded some updates, restarted, works not so fine. It hanged at startup on "Stopping Restore Sound Card State". Removed the virtual sound card and it now hangs on "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility". I guess the same goes for Linux as for Windows, don't install updates :sigh:

                                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                    Regards, Sander

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                                    Big Daddy Farang
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                                    Something eerily similar happened to me on Tuesday. I've been running Ubuntu in VMware for several months for development in Qt targeting a small device. After accepting available updates, I agreed to "restart now." It failed to boot. A more Linux-knowledgeable colleague got it working again for me. He backed out the kernel update, which in my case was linux-image-3.19.0.51-generic. Here’s a possibly helpful link: boot - How to delete a non-working kernel after update? - Ask Ubuntu[^]

                                    BDF The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer. -- PaulowniaK

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                                    • K kmoorevs

                                      I haven't touched it in over 5 years. Once you get over the novelty aspect and need to do something simple like install a driver, you realize it's just not worth it. OK, I've gotten it to boot, now what do I do with it? :omg: Install Wine so I can run Windows apps? :laugh:

                                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                      Herbie Mountjoy
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                                      I have three versions of Linux on VirtualBox. Don't know why. I open them up occasionally to see if they are still there. I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        I'll check it out :D

                                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                        Regards, Sander

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                                        Coop32
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                                        More or less I have been using all those abovementioned Linux distributives for nearly ten years in a row, and my only claim is that I had not discovered all those a decade earlier. Moreover, throughout these ten years I have never had to ask for any technical/operating support from any distributive vendor. During these years I changed one distributive after another, like many of us still practise, and obviously I have finally found the one I appreciate the most in all senses. I prefer CentOS with its native control panels. I want nothing more, because I need nothing less.

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