What the $ell is wrong with Microsoft? Or VS2015 community
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Yeah, tell me about it. I don't have it enabled at home because of this, but some Security idiot at work mandated it without concern to the implications of using/installing software. It was enabled because we're covered by HIPPA and Security has, understandably, gone ape-shit over data security.
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I've had the same thing. It's usually some extension that didn't install correctly. Yeah, I know. You're thinking "extension!??!", but I no install no steenkin' extención. Au contraire moin freund, VS2015 has many features implemented through extensions. :omg: :wtf:
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Apparently writing an out of process extension is the easiest way to get code out of the main VS process. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Also, it means MS is dogfooding the crap out of their extension API. That can't be a bad thing can it? :-\
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Yeah, tell me about it. I don't have it enabled at home because of this, but some Security idiot at work mandated it without concern to the implications of using/installing software. It was enabled because we're covered by HIPPA and Security has, understandably, gone ape-shit over data security.
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Dave KreskowiakI have to deal with it on my production machine. Having FIPS turned on (yay DoD security reqs) breaks the compile of one of my apps that interops with Excel. Once compiled the app itself runs fine. :wtf: Fortunately the IT guy for the system likes me. He's not allowed to disable it permanently; but if I need to debug/patch something in production he'll turn it off on my computer for the session. Due to lack of time/funds I've never tried running down WTE FIPS has to do with MS Office Interop libraries. :confused:
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charlieg wrote:
hat the $ell is wrong with Microsoft?
Little off-topic but I don't know. I'm still waiting for my Windows 10 mobile upgrade and am beginning to get very very frustrated.
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I have to deal with it on my production machine. Having FIPS turned on (yay DoD security reqs) breaks the compile of one of my apps that interops with Excel. Once compiled the app itself runs fine. :wtf: Fortunately the IT guy for the system likes me. He's not allowed to disable it permanently; but if I need to debug/patch something in production he'll turn it off on my computer for the session. Due to lack of time/funds I've never tried running down WTE FIPS has to do with MS Office Interop libraries. :confused:
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FIPS is probably turned on by Group Policy. The "temporary" turn off can either be a policy applied to your machine or a reg hack to disable it. The problem with the later is that the policy refresh cycle will turn it back on without warning. The policy is only ever checked when a process, like a compiler instance!, is launched. During a solution build it's entirely possible to have the first few projects compile fine then start bombing on the rest of the projects if FIPS is turned back on during the build. That was a fun one to find!
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FIPS is probably turned on by Group Policy. The "temporary" turn off can either be a policy applied to your machine or a reg hack to disable it. The problem with the later is that the policy refresh cycle will turn it back on without warning. The policy is only ever checked when a process, like a compiler instance!, is launched. During a solution build it's entirely possible to have the first few projects compile fine then start bombing on the rest of the projects if FIPS is turned back on during the build. That was a fun one to find!
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Dave KreskowiakDefinitely group policy, the admin toggles it for my pc on the server, then I need to `GPUpdate /force` and cycle logins to run a build. When I'm done for the day I need to call him back so he can re-enable it. As locked down as the system is, I doubt I'd be able to edit any registry keys related to policy, and IIRC any monkeying in the registry is logged and flagged for audit reviews. (I'm pretty sure I've been pinged during audit log review because the admin forgot that he had me run regedit to change something in a non-protected location and it showed up in his logs.)
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Definitely group policy, the admin toggles it for my pc on the server, then I need to `GPUpdate /force` and cycle logins to run a build. When I'm done for the day I need to call him back so he can re-enable it. As locked down as the system is, I doubt I'd be able to edit any registry keys related to policy, and IIRC any monkeying in the registry is logged and flagged for audit reviews. (I'm pretty sure I've been pinged during audit log review because the admin forgot that he had me run regedit to change something in a non-protected location and it showed up in his logs.)
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Wow. That must be fun when software modifies the registry on its own in its normal course of operation.
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Wow. That must be fun when software modifies the registry on its own in its normal course of operation.
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Dave KreskowiakI assume areas that are intended to be churned in normal use are filtered out. What I'm vaguely recalling was something in the gray area between that noise and the security critical sections that I'm locked out of editing. The admin is generally on our side, he locks it down to the extent required by policy as opposed to trying to lock everything he doesn't think will be problematic and only releasing them if it becomes a problem.
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So yesterday I'm firing off my application build scripts, and a couple of the targets barf with some obscure message. Researching, the results say to repair your VS installation. Easy enough. 4 elephanting hours later, I'm presented with a cute dialog with the title: "Setup Completed. However, not all features installed correctly." I will now allow 5 min for the Code Project community to ponder the absurdity of the above statement. I can see walking into my office, then telling my boss, "The code is complete, but it doesn't work." :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: I'm then directed to "log file" - 8000 lines of it, I $hit you not. Full of things that are probably important to people at MS, but me? You want me to cypher your dookie? OR I can select "common issues and workarounds", so I do, and not a single entry refers to my reported issue: "Another version of this product is already installed." :mad:
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So now I'm at the point where nothing will link. I mean, Microsoft said, repair the installation. Now its even worse, so I'm going to try the remove, reboot, re-install route. It's 630pm, I want to go home and relax, but I still need to get my build out the door. It's been "Acquiring" now for 20 minutes. Why can't I just uninstall? sigh
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So yesterday I'm firing off my application build scripts, and a couple of the targets barf with some obscure message. Researching, the results say to repair your VS installation. Easy enough. 4 elephanting hours later, I'm presented with a cute dialog with the title: "Setup Completed. However, not all features installed correctly." I will now allow 5 min for the Code Project community to ponder the absurdity of the above statement. I can see walking into my office, then telling my boss, "The code is complete, but it doesn't work." :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: I'm then directed to "log file" - 8000 lines of it, I $hit you not. Full of things that are probably important to people at MS, but me? You want me to cypher your dookie? OR I can select "common issues and workarounds", so I do, and not a single entry refers to my reported issue: "Another version of this product is already installed." :mad:
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Ah Microsoft, Microsoft - you provide so much information, you hide the obvious. Googling for the error messages I was seeing revealed all sorts of really bizarre solutions. When MS tells you to edit the registry, you know there has to be a few Charlie Foxtrots going on over there... Even so, my woes seem to be related to a mixed version development arrangement. Since I'm a small company, I qualify for certain products that developers for large companies aren't allowed to use for free. And my local customer loves the word "free", and "do we have to?" always comes up. So, I work in a VC6, VS2005, VS2008, VS2010, VS2012, and VS2015 development environment. What could go wrong? It used to be that if you tried to open a solution with a newer version of VS, it would ask to convert it. This was your clue. Using VS 2015, it did not ask. So, when some developer used 2012 to work on this project, that's what got committed to SVN. That's what I picked up. Converting the project to 2015 allows me to build. Still, no where did I see in all of the google hits a note to check your project versions. Documented here. Come get it google. :doh:
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