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Lawmakers who legalized raw milk, got really sick drinking it!

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    After Legalizing It, Legislators Drank Raw Milk, Then Got Really Sick | Mediaite[^]

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      After Legalizing It, Legislators Drank Raw Milk, Then Got Really Sick | Mediaite[^]

      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      That is a spurious news source. Here is a more reputable one (relatively speaking). - West Virginia lawmakers celebrate raw milk, deny being sickened by it[^]

      Regards, Nish


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        That is a spurious news source. Here is a more reputable one (relatively speaking). - West Virginia lawmakers celebrate raw milk, deny being sickened by it[^]

        Regards, Nish


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        Yes, but no way will I dare drink unpasteurized milk! I will leave to the bright politicians who legalized raw milk. And I wish them the best of luck. :-D

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          Yes, but no way will I dare drink unpasteurized milk! I will leave to the bright politicians who legalized raw milk. And I wish them the best of luck. :-D

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          Why would anyone want to legalize it? What's the driving reason behind it, do you know?

          Regards, Nish


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            Why would anyone want to legalize it? What's the driving reason behind it, do you know?

            Regards, Nish


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            What's the driving reason behind it

            Who knows? Probably a bunch of hippies?

            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              Quote:

              What's the driving reason behind it

              Who knows? Probably a bunch of hippies?

              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              :laugh:

              Regards, Nish


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                After Legalizing It, Legislators Drank Raw Milk, Then Got Really Sick | Mediaite[^]

                Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                Remember, this is West Virgina, not to be confused with Virginia. Consider this quote (extracted from the text) by one of their brilliant lawmakers: "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .” That should explain everything.

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  Quote:

                  What's the driving reason behind it

                  Who knows? Probably a bunch of hippies?

                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                  Cornelius Henning wrote:

                  Probably a bunch of hippies?

                  Actually, having lived in WV, I assure you that those insisting on this were about as unlike hippies as one could imagine. WV is primarily composed of good solid conservative bigots - like you'd find in most of the low population states (and Texass). The reason the northern coastal states have large population densities is people trying to get away from the inbred masses and they ran out of running room.


                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Remember, this is West Virgina, not to be confused with Virginia. Consider this quote (extracted from the text) by one of their brilliant lawmakers: "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .” That should explain everything.

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    That should explain everything

                    That is just dumb! Even for a politician. Even if he is from the mountains in the West!

                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                      Cornelius Henning wrote:

                      Probably a bunch of hippies?

                      Actually, having lived in WV, I assure you that those insisting on this were about as unlike hippies as one could imagine. WV is primarily composed of good solid conservative bigots - like you'd find in most of the low population states (and Texass). The reason the northern coastal states have large population densities is people trying to get away from the inbred masses and they ran out of running room.


                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      good solid conservative bigots

                      Different values from hippies, but same IQ range. :-D

                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                        After Legalizing It, Legislators Drank Raw Milk, Then Got Really Sick | Mediaite[^]

                        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                        I used to drink raw milk, when I was a child...but if someone not used to it, it is very heavy (full of fat), so I can imagine that...

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                          I used to drink raw milk, when I was a child...but if someone not used to it, it is very heavy (full of fat), so I can imagine that...

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          I'm afraid you run risks other than just full bodied milk, if you drink it raw. Typhoid Mary infected more than 50 people with typhus (three died) through raw milk, before pasteurization became common practice. Milk is an ideal carrier for various pathogens.

                          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            I used to drink raw milk, when I was a child...but if someone not used to it, it is very heavy (full of fat), so I can imagine that...

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                            As a child in the early 1960s I lived in a hostel where we were served raw milk. In the rural parts where we were, pasteurization was still not common. Yes, I survived, but we seemed to develop digestive tract infections more commonly than kids today. Why run the risk of some serious tummy ailments?

                            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                              As a child in the early 1960s I lived in a hostel where we were served raw milk. In the rural parts where we were, pasteurization was still not common. Yes, I survived, but we seemed to develop digestive tract infections more commonly than kids today. Why run the risk of some serious tummy ailments?

                              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                              I didn't say that I would do it today or to my kids, but than, that was the only milk we had (lived in a farm outside of everything)...I can't remember people got ill or died of it, but I was only a kid...

                              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                I didn't say that I would do it today or to my kids, but than, that was the only milk we had (lived in a farm outside of everything)...I can't remember people got ill or died of it, but I was only a kid...

                                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                Yes, I believe we are in agreement. :)

                                Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                  As a child in the early 1960s I lived in a hostel where we were served raw milk. In the rural parts where we were, pasteurization was still not common. Yes, I survived, but we seemed to develop digestive tract infections more commonly than kids today. Why run the risk of some serious tummy ailments?

                                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                  Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                  1960s

                                  That's the key difference. Farmers were not pumping their cows full of steroids and hormones like they do today. However, even today, there are lot of small farms around where I live that sell raw milk. It's no big deal. But these farmers don't shoot their cows up. :^)

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                                    Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                    1960s

                                    That's the key difference. Farmers were not pumping their cows full of steroids and hormones like they do today. However, even today, there are lot of small farms around where I live that sell raw milk. It's no big deal. But these farmers don't shoot their cows up. :^)

                                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                    I'm afraid you are going off-topic. The issue is whether you should pasteurize milk to get rid of pathogens, like undesirable bacteria. Hormones and antibiotics are a separate issue that has nothing to do with pasteurization.

                                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                      I'm afraid you are going off-topic. The issue is whether you should pasteurize milk to get rid of pathogens, like undesirable bacteria. Hormones and antibiotics are a separate issue that has nothing to do with pasteurization.

                                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                      Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                      I'm afraid you are going off-topic.

                                      Not at all.

                                      Quote:

                                      to expose (a food, as milk, cheese, yogurt, beer, or wine) to an elevated temperature for a period of time sufficient to destroy certain microorganisms, as those that can produce disease or cause spoilage or undesirable fermentation of food, without radically altering taste or quality.

                                      Hormones and steroids add to those "certain microorganisms, that can produce disease."

                                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                        Remember, this is West Virgina, not to be confused with Virginia. Consider this quote (extracted from the text) by one of their brilliant lawmakers: "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .” That should explain everything.

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                        "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .”

                                        Wow. That's the English-language equivalent of javascript code.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                          Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                          I'm afraid you are going off-topic.

                                          Not at all.

                                          Quote:

                                          to expose (a food, as milk, cheese, yogurt, beer, or wine) to an elevated temperature for a period of time sufficient to destroy certain microorganisms, as those that can produce disease or cause spoilage or undesirable fermentation of food, without radically altering taste or quality.

                                          Hormones and steroids add to those "certain microorganisms, that can produce disease."

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                          Let's agree to differ: You can drink your milk raw, and I will only take pasteurized milk, and we both will be happy. :)

                                          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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