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Do women have a brain to program?

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    [thread this link pointed to was deleted] - admin Anyone care to respond to this article?

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    Andrew McCarter
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    Catherine Björk wrote: Anyone care to respond to this article? Yes. What's the point? It's just another, almost entirely subjective, "Us vs. Them" type scenario - my God is better than your God, my OS is better than your OS, blah blah. Proponents and oponents for and against any and all emotive arguments - irrelevant and idiotic trolls aside. Frankly, it's a waste of time - another vacuous attempt to create substance out of hot air. Of course that's just my opinion ... ho hum.

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      Flame me but: In general, no. The "typical", "average" female seems to be less capable of programming than the "typical", "average" male. I can go on reasoning forever, but the point is: most coders are male. This fails to establish a cause/effect relationship. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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      Tim, you have the best responses on all of codeproject. Thank you for that. haha! Classic. -dork

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        ROTFL! Trolls... :rolleyes: ---

        Not one of them, IMO, should be called beer. Maybe malt flavored mineral water. - Jörgen Sigvardsson on Bud, Coors and Miller

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          Ranjeet Chakraborty
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          Anonymous wrote: No man should ever allow any woman to be their boss because it is degrading! I think he has a female boss who has far more intelligence than him. ;P He sure sounds frustated. :-D My wife is a programmer too and she does a damn good job at it, maybe I should ask her to reply to this jackass or any one with such similar sexist, Talibanised views ! :mad: The kombucha mushroom people, Sitting around all day, Who can believe you, Who can believe you, Let your mother pray... sugar - System of a down

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          • R Roger Wright

            This strikes me as an excellent argument in favor of limiting posts here to identified members. Browsing and learning from the site should be anyone's privelege, but posting should require accountability. "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom

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            Rohit Sinha
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            No no. You'll be putting an end to some excellent fodder for lounge posts. "Look at this stupid article/post. I don't like it, and I'm sure you won't like it either, but let's give it it's 15 minutes of undue fame."
            Regards,

            Rohit Sinha

            ...celebrating Indian spirit and Cricket. 8MB video, really cool!

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            • T Tim Smith

              Flame me but: In general, no. The "typical", "average" female seems to be less capable of programming than the "typical", "average" male. I can go on reasoning forever, but the point is: most coders are male. This fails to establish a cause/effect relationship. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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              peterchen
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              OK - you asked ;) disclaimer: the average result of throwing a 1d6 is 3.5 My two cents: Women tend to be better at doing multiple things in parallel, men are more adapt to focusing on one thing. Basic requirement for getting "into the flow." Men are prone to a reductionist analysis: taking a system apart, understanding the functionality of each part, then understanding their minute interaction, buinding the whole system from the small parts. Women get along more easy with holistic, fuzzy concepts. Control by command, divide and conquer, all "fundamental techniques" (if they can be called this), and so "typically male". "Ideal software components" are minimum state, or state free, and feed forward (without state memory). Cold logic works best woth them. "Moody" software (i.e. state-strong, with feedback loop aka state memory) is a challenge for many men - yet females seem to cope with it easier. "Sexism" can't count as much as in other areas here. Women, if they are not too daft with computers, are very welcome in the community. Of course you qickly come to a chicken-and-egg problem here: usually an indication of 'cause and effect' being an ineffective tool. There are many (even engineering) domains that are much more female-adverse.


              Italian is a beautiful language. amare means to love, and amara bitter.
              sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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              • R Ranjeet Chakraborty

                Anonymous wrote: No man should ever allow any woman to be their boss because it is degrading! I think he has a female boss who has far more intelligence than him. ;P He sure sounds frustated. :-D My wife is a programmer too and she does a damn good job at it, maybe I should ask her to reply to this jackass or any one with such similar sexist, Talibanised views ! :mad: The kombucha mushroom people, Sitting around all day, Who can believe you, Who can believe you, Let your mother pray... sugar - System of a down

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                Imagine what torture it is for a sexist to take commands from a woman who is clearly smarter than him!


                Italian is a beautiful language. amare means to love, and amara bitter.
                sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                  Rob Graham
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                  Just crap from an anonymous idiot who is destined for a series of unhappy marriages. I hope he goes through life losing one promotion after another to a woman. It would be just. Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped. - Elbert Hubbard

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                    ROTFL! Trolls... :rolleyes: ---

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                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                    Exactly. The guy was bored and posted a stupid little troll. What amazes me is that so many people hooked up.

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      I don't think the females have a lesser ability to program at all. I think the current situation (there are more male coders) depends more on cultural behavior. Women were taught to do female things and men were taught to do male things as kids. When I was a teacher at a university, I got this confirmed in the computer labs. The women wanted to program, but they were always scuffed away by more dominating males. Sad but true. However, I think this cultural "women do female stuff, and men do male stuff" is about to change (probably already has). But I would never date, move in with, marry, etc, a programmer. I would hate the boring conversations. I want .NET et al to stay out of my personal life. Getting together with a programmer would not help at all. :) -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.

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                        Imagine what torture it is for a sexist to take commands from a woman who is clearly smarter than him!


                        Italian is a beautiful language. amare means to love, and amara bitter.
                        sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        Hmm.. I thought I was a sexist, but it appears I'm not. I just like sex very much. What's the word for that? :rolleyes: -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.

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                          Hmm.. I thought I was a sexist, but it appears I'm not. I just like sex very much. What's the word for that? :rolleyes: -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.

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                          peterchen
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                          nymphomaniac.


                          Italian is a beautiful language. amare means to love, and amara bitter.
                          sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                            nymphomaniac.


                            Italian is a beautiful language. amare means to love, and amara bitter.
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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            I like the maniac part of that word. :make notes: :-D -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.

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                              I don't think the females have a lesser ability to program at all. I think the current situation (there are more male coders) depends more on cultural behavior. Women were taught to do female things and men were taught to do male things as kids. When I was a teacher at a university, I got this confirmed in the computer labs. The women wanted to program, but they were always scuffed away by more dominating males. Sad but true. However, I think this cultural "women do female stuff, and men do male stuff" is about to change (probably already has). But I would never date, move in with, marry, etc, a programmer. I would hate the boring conversations. I want .NET et al to stay out of my personal life. Getting together with a programmer would not help at all. :) -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.

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                              Ranjeet Chakraborty
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                              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: But I would never date, move in with, marry, etc, a programmer. I would hate the boring conversations. I want .NET et al to stay out of my personal life. Getting together with a programmer would not help at all. DAMN !! Too late for me.;P The kombucha mushroom people, Sitting around all day, Who can believe you, Who can believe you, Let your mother pray... sugar - System of a down

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                                LongRange Shooter
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                                Since the article path was deleted by the admin, I can only discuss this topic based on the subject line. So -- I think that both men and women have a brain to program. The problem is finding just the right amount of voltage to insert into the nuecliae of the neuron transmitters to sufficiently change the existing program without leaving your subject unresponsive. In the event of an unresponsive subject, well that is the equivalent of putting your system in an infinite loop without an 'off' button. _____________________________________________ The world is a dangerous place.
                                Not because of those that do evil,
                                    but because of those who look on and do nothing.

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                                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                  I like the maniac part of that word. :make notes: :-D -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.

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                                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I like the maniac part of that word. Yeah... since the other bit means either a girl or a bug with small genitalia, you'd prolly be best to avoid it... :~ ---

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                                    Imagine what torture it is for a sexist to take commands from a woman who is clearly smarter than him!


                                    Italian is a beautiful language. amare means to love, and amara bitter.
                                    sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                                    Daniel Turini
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                                    peterchen wrote: Imagine what torture it is for a sexist to take commands from a woman who is clearly smarter than him! You mean, marriage? :)


                                    It's not the fall that kills you: it's the sudden stop - Down by Law, Jim Jamursch (1986)

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                                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: But I would never date, move in with, marry, etc, a programmer. I would hate the boring conversations. I want .NET et al to stay out of my personal life. Getting together with a programmer would not help at all. DAMN !! Too late for me.;P The kombucha mushroom people, Sitting around all day, Who can believe you, Who can believe you, Let your mother pray... sugar - System of a down

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                                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                      Hehe, I'm glad someone enjoys it :-D Do you fight over design decisions regularly? :-D -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.

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                                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I like the maniac part of that word. Yeah... since the other bit means either a girl or a bug with small genitalia, you'd prolly be best to avoid it... :~ ---

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                                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                        Exactly. :) What is the male version of nymphomaniac? Could it be there is no male version, because we're in that "state" by default? :~ -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.

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                                          Hehe, I'm glad someone enjoys it :-D Do you fight over design decisions regularly? :-D -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.

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                                          Ranjeet Chakraborty
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                                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Do you fight over design decisions regularly? :laugh::laugh: <dreamworld> Not anymore, she agrees I am always right</dreamworld>;P Carved upon my stone, My body lies but still I roam...

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