What's your opinion on the StackOverflow website?
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Ever tried to contribute and respond to a question on the StackOverflow website? Every time I respond, I get some douche who tries to copy and edit my solution, take credit for my wisdom, and then have me banned from the site by down voting me. I recently had someone try to edit my solution and modify it as her own, only to have it denied by the last reviewer in the chain. Thankfully I didn't lose what little reputation points I had accumulated. What has been your experience?
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Ever tried to contribute and respond to a question on the StackOverflow website? Every time I respond, I get some douche who tries to copy and edit my solution, take credit for my wisdom, and then have me banned from the site by down voting me. I recently had someone try to edit my solution and modify it as her own, only to have it denied by the last reviewer in the chain. Thankfully I didn't lose what little reputation points I had accumulated. What has been your experience?
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Ever tried to contribute and respond to a question on the StackOverflow website? Every time I respond, I get some douche who tries to copy and edit my solution, take credit for my wisdom, and then have me banned from the site by down voting me. I recently had someone try to edit my solution and modify it as her own, only to have it denied by the last reviewer in the chain. Thankfully I didn't lose what little reputation points I had accumulated. What has been your experience?
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This place was *) open, friendly, and generally technically more competent.
*) was ... past or not? Help a english language noob to understand this Thank you in advance. Bruno
Griff meant that it was until he came here and ruined it. Can't move for bluddy sheep here, these days...
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'm not mem of SO. But it seems to be not that bad. Why? I can't give you a statistics, but I think to remember very lot of answers here, which reffer to StackOverflow ;)
0x01AA wrote:
I think to remember very lot of answers here, which reffer to StackOverflow
Sure, but "For God's sake, don't follow the cr@ppy advice they gave you on stack overview" counts as a favourable reference.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Well, if you are doing iOS development StackOverflow is effectively the official documentation. I don't really understand why they make so hard to post comments though.
Yes, who would have expected apple users to be snooty and immature?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Griff meant that it was until he came here and ruined it. Can't move for bluddy sheep here, these days...
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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0x01AA wrote:
I think to remember very lot of answers here, which reffer to StackOverflow
Sure, but "For God's sake, don't follow the cr@ppy advice they gave you on stack overview" counts as a favourable reference.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Ever tried to contribute and respond to a question on the StackOverflow website? Every time I respond, I get some douche who tries to copy and edit my solution, take credit for my wisdom, and then have me banned from the site by down voting me. I recently had someone try to edit my solution and modify it as her own, only to have it denied by the last reviewer in the chain. Thankfully I didn't lose what little reputation points I had accumulated. What has been your experience?
Yep, all the time. I answer more questions than I seek answers, in fact. Don't understand what you mean by the second line. The post times are obvious so one can tell which answer was posted first, down-votes dont do anything like get you banned. They cost the voter (unlike here). People modify answers all the time. If the editors rep is too low, any change is first vetted. As you experienced, these edit suggestions are often rejected. Again, who posted and who edited the question is clear. Full edit history is available to those with sufficient privileges. Who cares about the points? Points, like personal weight measurements greatest value is in providing a trend over time. Individual ups and downs are essentially meaningless. I've had good days, I've had great days, I've had WTF!? days there too. Every single one has ended with a little more knowledge packed away into the grey matter. Stack Overflow and Code Project have quite different aims with rather different audiences. StackOverflow is much more business-like, i.e salutations not welcomed, thanks neither all combined with the horrors that essentially anonymous internet posting brings. CodeProject on the other hand is far more relaxed and convivial in nature and the expectation is that communications will use superlatives, be somewhat intimate, friendly and more human-friendly. Again, and like SO, all combined with the horrors that essentially anonymous internet posting brings. I wouldn't ask my mates what they think I should use to create a templating system to automatically process remit documents that are received as PDFs. Likewise, I wouldn't ask the mob at work if they've got any suggestions for reducing the cloudiness and off flavours produced when fermenting apple/pear juice in temperatures that fluctuate wildly, when the yeast prefers quite a cold environment. Different strokes for different folks.. I just try to treat SO like an office without a water-cooler and one that's full of people that are busy. I've been bitten once by someone having a bad day. It was rather cathartic, to be honest. Compared to some of the places I hang around, it's a kindergarten full of people with impeccable manners.
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I contributed once with a reasonable answer. My goodness did I regret that - the flamers set in and it became some playground bully fest of a who can be the biggest jerk. Needless to say I cancelled my account and now merely use it when google takes me there. There is a serious problem with the ethos of those running the site to as I constantly see good questions being asked and moderators shutting down the question as it has not been phrased correctly - seriously :wtf:! Its one saving grace is that there are a number of technically very helpful solutions to problems on the site.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
exactly my experience!
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Ever tried to contribute and respond to a question on the StackOverflow website? Every time I respond, I get some douche who tries to copy and edit my solution, take credit for my wisdom, and then have me banned from the site by down voting me. I recently had someone try to edit my solution and modify it as her own, only to have it denied by the last reviewer in the chain. Thankfully I didn't lose what little reputation points I had accumulated. What has been your experience?
I've posted ~380 answers over the years. The only slightly dodgy experience I've had was when another user accused me of plagiarising my answer from CodeProject, because I'd posted the same code here in response to a similar question. :doh: Other users editing your answers doesn't mean they're trying to pass it off as their own; it just means they think they can improve it. If the edit is accepted, your name will still be shown as the original poster of the answer, and you'll still get points when the answer is up-voted. If someone copies your answer and re-posts it, you should use the "flag" option to report it to the moderators. If it happens frequently, start a thread on Meta Stack Overflow[^].
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Yep, all the time. I answer more questions than I seek answers, in fact. Don't understand what you mean by the second line. The post times are obvious so one can tell which answer was posted first, down-votes dont do anything like get you banned. They cost the voter (unlike here). People modify answers all the time. If the editors rep is too low, any change is first vetted. As you experienced, these edit suggestions are often rejected. Again, who posted and who edited the question is clear. Full edit history is available to those with sufficient privileges. Who cares about the points? Points, like personal weight measurements greatest value is in providing a trend over time. Individual ups and downs are essentially meaningless. I've had good days, I've had great days, I've had WTF!? days there too. Every single one has ended with a little more knowledge packed away into the grey matter. Stack Overflow and Code Project have quite different aims with rather different audiences. StackOverflow is much more business-like, i.e salutations not welcomed, thanks neither all combined with the horrors that essentially anonymous internet posting brings. CodeProject on the other hand is far more relaxed and convivial in nature and the expectation is that communications will use superlatives, be somewhat intimate, friendly and more human-friendly. Again, and like SO, all combined with the horrors that essentially anonymous internet posting brings. I wouldn't ask my mates what they think I should use to create a templating system to automatically process remit documents that are received as PDFs. Likewise, I wouldn't ask the mob at work if they've got any suggestions for reducing the cloudiness and off flavours produced when fermenting apple/pear juice in temperatures that fluctuate wildly, when the yeast prefers quite a cold environment. Different strokes for different folks.. I just try to treat SO like an office without a water-cooler and one that's full of people that are busy. I've been bitten once by someone having a bad day. It was rather cathartic, to be honest. Compared to some of the places I hang around, it's a kindergarten full of people with impeccable manners.
The first time I responded to a question I posted a simple one-line solution. Some douchebag copied and pasted my solution added some other irrelevant BS comment, took credit for it, and somehow I ended up with -10 reputation points or some such nonsense. The guy was some kind of know-it-all-douche who must have spent his entire life on that website. I had to plead with the site admin to get me back to zero so I could participate. Then I tried posting a response to someone's question, and something similar happened, but I didn't get the negative points. The third time, some other douche, copied my solution, and modified it to something of lesser quality. The douche's solution got approved by two or three other reviewers, but got the smack down by the last one. The site is full of really bad examples, lots of spaghetti code, and too many dumb comments some of which are "idk... try googling, blah, blah, blah" or comments that digress into something totally irrelevant. About 5 years ago I asked the site admins to try and clean up the site and implement some simple way of eliminating and deleting all the crappy solutions that would likely get you a "C" or below grade in a college CS101 class (at least at the schools I attended). I really wanted them to get rid of the comments and discussions that don't add any value. "... ain't nobody got time..." to read through all the B.S. just to get to a useful nugget. That's my experience with that site.
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The first time I responded to a question I posted a simple one-line solution. Some douchebag copied and pasted my solution added some other irrelevant BS comment, took credit for it, and somehow I ended up with -10 reputation points or some such nonsense. The guy was some kind of know-it-all-douche who must have spent his entire life on that website. I had to plead with the site admin to get me back to zero so I could participate. Then I tried posting a response to someone's question, and something similar happened, but I didn't get the negative points. The third time, some other douche, copied my solution, and modified it to something of lesser quality. The douche's solution got approved by two or three other reviewers, but got the smack down by the last one. The site is full of really bad examples, lots of spaghetti code, and too many dumb comments some of which are "idk... try googling, blah, blah, blah" or comments that digress into something totally irrelevant. About 5 years ago I asked the site admins to try and clean up the site and implement some simple way of eliminating and deleting all the crappy solutions that would likely get you a "C" or below grade in a college CS101 class (at least at the schools I attended). I really wanted them to get rid of the comments and discussions that don't add any value. "... ain't nobody got time..." to read through all the B.S. just to get to a useful nugget. That's my experience with that site.
Fair call. I think in reality SO, like so many other institutions, has become a victim of its own success. The internet in general, newsgroups have all received good content from some of the newer users who only found them as a result of an increasing profile. Unfortunately, it is the lazy and inept that seem to become members as a result of this increasingly visible profile. The net result being that while the quantity of good content continues to grow, the signal to noise ratio declines. Code Project is no different in my opinion - it's a wildly different place than it was when I joined some 10 years ago or so. I used to adore reading the articles written by Hans Dietrich and others of the same calibre. These days however, I rarely even bother to look for articles - much of the content I'm dissinterested in, a lot of the remainder seems poorly written and more suited to a magazine at the fish'n'chip shop than a reference book at the library. I still remember with fondness travelling some 25 kms by train to go and read Michael Abrash's "The Black Art of Graphics Programming" at the uni I once attended, also some of Dianna Gruber's stuff was top-shelf. Oh how I miss the good old days of DDJ...
