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  • K KarstenK

    Power means responsibility for many people and atomar weapons, so being rich should be easier. :-O

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    Lost User
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    Do you believe in selecting the easy, because it is easy, or do you pick the difficult because it is difficult? Your response will tell me a lot about you. :)

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      I was just looking at the richest people in the world, Bill Gates at #1. But then I noticed Bill Gates rates "only" 6th on the most powerful people in the world. The numbers 1 to 5 on that list are Poetin, Merkel, Obama, the pope, and Xi Jinping. None of them really very rich people. So where would you rather be, #1 on the list of richest people or #1 on the list of most powerful people? Notice that "none" is not an option :) Stress comes with both money and power, but I'm not world changer, so I'd take the money. The only reason I'd like to be on the powerful list is so I can do my evil laugh and people would actually be afraid :D

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

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      Marc Clifton
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      Money can buy power. Power usually wastes money on trying to maintain itself, until there's neither left (the US economy is a good example.) So, I'd go for money, but I wouldn't use it to buy power! Marc

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      • R Ron Anders

        Rich. I'd buy an island for me and my wife and get sufficient monkey butlers. And line the beach with 100 watt plexi stacks with a Les Paul to ward off would be pirates.

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        Sander Rossel
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        Ron Anders wrote:

        monkey butlers

        Are we talking actual monkeys? That would be awesome! :D

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          I'll go for item 2: Happy

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Sander Rossel
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          If the question is rich or powerful then item 2 is actually powerful :^) Unless you're a programmer and start at 0 :D

          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          • 9 9082365

            I think that the parameters of powerful in that listing need adjusting. In a recent documentary shown here Obama, for example, complains bitterly about being President of the United States and in reality able to do nothing about the things that concern him most. The Pope has no real power at all (for many of the same reasons and a lot of others unique to being a religious leader).

            I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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            Sander Rossel
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            You should complain to Forbes about it. If the pope says something many people will blindly follow, that's what power is about, right? So who is powerful according to you?

            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              Ron Anders wrote:

              monkey butlers

              Are we talking actual monkeys? That would be awesome! :D

              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              enhzflep
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              Perhaps a less clumsy version of this little fella: Monkey Butler for real!! - YouTube[^]

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                You should complain to Forbes about it. If the pope says something many people will blindly follow, that's what power is about, right? So who is powerful according to you?

                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                9082365
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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                If the pope says something many people will blindly follow

                That would be a wildly inaccurate representation both now and at any time in the Church's history. In any case, the Pope clearly is not free to say, do or command anything he wants. It is apparent that the present one would wish to be far more reforming than he is currently allowed to be, for example. Real power lies in getting what you want, when you want it, without let or hindrance of any kind. It is almost impossible to achieve without extreme wealth.

                I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                  If the pope says something many people will blindly follow

                  That would be a wildly inaccurate representation both now and at any time in the Church's history. In any case, the Pope clearly is not free to say, do or command anything he wants. It is apparent that the present one would wish to be far more reforming than he is currently allowed to be, for example. Real power lies in getting what you want, when you want it, without let or hindrance of any kind. It is almost impossible to achieve without extreme wealth.

                  I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  I see your point, fair enough. However if Bill Gates wanted to do something with his massive wealth and Obama disagrees Obama could make whatever Bill was planning illegal (or at least try to). It happened before that law makers prevented individuals or companies from doing things they did not agree to. So what about Kim Jong-un? As far as I know he can do anything he wants as long as it stays in North Korea (and even a little outside).

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    I see your point, fair enough. However if Bill Gates wanted to do something with his massive wealth and Obama disagrees Obama could make whatever Bill was planning illegal (or at least try to). It happened before that law makers prevented individuals or companies from doing things they did not agree to. So what about Kim Jong-un? As far as I know he can do anything he wants as long as it stays in North Korea (and even a little outside).

                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    9082365
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                    The belief that making things illegal stops them from happening has a long and noble tradition of being utterly false! It does nothing but provide a means of punishing people after the fact, if you catch them and can prove to the satisfaction of a jury that they done it. No law ever prevents crime - indeed it mostly increases it simply by criminalising more acts!

                    I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      If the question is rich or powerful then item 2 is actually powerful :^) Unless you're a programmer and start at 0 :D

                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      Sander Rossel wrote:

                      Unless you're a programmer and start at 0

                      I'm afraid that the only possible reply to this is: "Well, Duh!"

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        I was just looking at the richest people in the world, Bill Gates at #1. But then I noticed Bill Gates rates "only" 6th on the most powerful people in the world. The numbers 1 to 5 on that list are Poetin, Merkel, Obama, the pope, and Xi Jinping. None of them really very rich people. So where would you rather be, #1 on the list of richest people or #1 on the list of most powerful people? Notice that "none" is not an option :) Stress comes with both money and power, but I'm not world changer, so I'd take the money. The only reason I'd like to be on the powerful list is so I can do my evil laugh and people would actually be afraid :D

                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                        Regards, Sander

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                        agolddog
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                        Meh, what would I do with more money? OTOH, I don't want power either, at least not in the overt sense. Id' rather be the guy behind the scenes. Kind of like Dick Cheney, only without the evil.

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                        • A agolddog

                          Meh, what would I do with more money? OTOH, I don't want power either, at least not in the overt sense. Id' rather be the guy behind the scenes. Kind of like Dick Cheney, only without the evil.

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                          Daniel Pfeffer
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                          Of what earthly use is power, if you don't abuse it? :evil grin:

                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            I see your point, fair enough. However if Bill Gates wanted to do something with his massive wealth and Obama disagrees Obama could make whatever Bill was planning illegal (or at least try to). It happened before that law makers prevented individuals or companies from doing things they did not agree to. So what about Kim Jong-un? As far as I know he can do anything he wants as long as it stays in North Korea (and even a little outside).

                            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                            jRaskell1
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                            Obama does NOT have the power to make anything illegal. That is exclusively the power of the Judicial branch. He has some influence on that realm via nominating individuals for the Supreme and District courts, but those all have to be approved by the Senate, and the President has no direct influence on any judicial decisions made. There are checks and balances in every branch, and at all levels of the governments specifically to prevent any one individual from having too much power, including the President.

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              I was just looking at the richest people in the world, Bill Gates at #1. But then I noticed Bill Gates rates "only" 6th on the most powerful people in the world. The numbers 1 to 5 on that list are Poetin, Merkel, Obama, the pope, and Xi Jinping. None of them really very rich people. So where would you rather be, #1 on the list of richest people or #1 on the list of most powerful people? Notice that "none" is not an option :) Stress comes with both money and power, but I'm not world changer, so I'd take the money. The only reason I'd like to be on the powerful list is so I can do my evil laugh and people would actually be afraid :D

                              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

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                              Ygnaiih
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                              Rich and use my money to hide the #1 part. Then I would buy companies and fire all the kinds of people who create scope creep and add use less features.

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                Rich and unknown. The power I have here on CP is already a considerable responsibility.

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                                sasadler
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                                Yep, I've always wanted to be rich and anonymous. Being famous too would just be a pain in the butt.

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                                • J jRaskell1

                                  Obama does NOT have the power to make anything illegal. That is exclusively the power of the Judicial branch. He has some influence on that realm via nominating individuals for the Supreme and District courts, but those all have to be approved by the Senate, and the President has no direct influence on any judicial decisions made. There are checks and balances in every branch, and at all levels of the governments specifically to prevent any one individual from having too much power, including the President.

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                                  Kyle Moyer
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                                  jRaskell1 wrote:

                                  Obama does NOT have the power to make anything illegal. That is exclusively the power of the Judicial branch.

                                  Not directly, no (and it's actually the legislative branch; judicial only enforces laws (or overturns them if found unconstitutional.)) However the president has an enormous amount of "pull" with congress, and assuming the bill he wants passed isn't terribly insane (like say, legally mandating sex with chickens,) then it's going to be put up to vote. Contrast this with an ordinary citizen's ability to get one of those old shrivs to put a bill up for vote, and I'd say the president has at least 100 times greater chance of getting a bill voted into law. That sounds pretty powerful to me.

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    I was just looking at the richest people in the world, Bill Gates at #1. But then I noticed Bill Gates rates "only" 6th on the most powerful people in the world. The numbers 1 to 5 on that list are Poetin, Merkel, Obama, the pope, and Xi Jinping. None of them really very rich people. So where would you rather be, #1 on the list of richest people or #1 on the list of most powerful people? Notice that "none" is not an option :) Stress comes with both money and power, but I'm not world changer, so I'd take the money. The only reason I'd like to be on the powerful list is so I can do my evil laugh and people would actually be afraid :D

                                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                    Regards, Sander

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                                    Nukes; nukes; nukes; prayer; nukes; $.

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