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  • R regerteast

    HE is Risen :-D :-D Atheism's Attack on Christianity Destroying American Liberty[^] The ‘freedom loving’ Atheist (if there is such a thing) may need to declare a truce with Christians and start focusing on the Marxist-Communist takeover of this country. Despite (the poster-boy for religious right demonization) former President George W. Bush’s perceived offenses, it’s the secular-commies in charge who are the true threat to American freedom and prosperity.

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    I celebrate with you this version of the timeless myth of human sacrifice for humanity's "greater good" in the struggle between good and evil. What profound paradox that this (patriarchal, sky-god) type of myth, and the institutional structures built around it, are responsible for more bloodshed, more human suffering, more loss of human potential, than the other myths that so-called Homo Sapiens uses to avoid facing the fact that we are a violent, territorial, destructive (to self, and to all other species, and biota) aberration of evolution (if you are an anthropomorph ... quite possible if this myth is salient for you ... then you can substitute "fulfillment" for "aberration"). But, wait: I said "paradox;" where's the "other side" to complete the dysjunctive conjugation ? Here: this myth, like others, can engender the best within humanity; within its context remarkable individuals can flourish who become exemplars of service, cosmic insight, and selfless behavior. For many people, this myth, and others, are as necessary for survival ... in a world where basic existence is threatened daily ... as food and water: sanity, and the ability to cope, depend on it. So, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that I "celebrate" with you. And, I write this in probably dim awareness that the myths of "no myth," science, rationality, marxism, nihilism, are as real as any myth, albeit pursuing one of those myths leads to a different labyrinth of paradoxes. Oh: "science;" how about quantum mechanics ? There's a set of paradoxes that virtually beg to be packaged into a religion by some prophet, or other. Perhaps we are all, right now, being tickled by a half-dead-half-alive cat's whisker in its temple, while chanting "meow" beneath statues of Saint Schrodinger ? The impossible quest by individuals to abandon all myth has interesting consequences that, I believe, are also paradoxical. "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." Christian "Sacred" Text, King James Version, 1 Corinthians 1:21

    «The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard

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      He doesn't appear to have posted since 2011 but his rep graph is still moving, so presumably he still logs in: CaptainSeeSharp - Professional Profile - CodeProject[^] Probably an all time low total rep though! :laugh:

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      He is risen.

      «The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard

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        He doesn't appear to have posted since 2011 but his rep graph is still moving, so presumably he still logs in: CaptainSeeSharp - Professional Profile - CodeProject[^] Probably an all time low total rep though! :laugh:

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        Wow! Just wow. I think you just made my hour. The word resilient springs to mind, though I suspect it to be too complimentary and the truth is far less impressive. Hope chocolate egg weekend is working out nicely in your neck of the woods. :)

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          I celebrate with you this version of the timeless myth of human sacrifice for humanity's "greater good" in the struggle between good and evil. What profound paradox that this (patriarchal, sky-god) type of myth, and the institutional structures built around it, are responsible for more bloodshed, more human suffering, more loss of human potential, than the other myths that so-called Homo Sapiens uses to avoid facing the fact that we are a violent, territorial, destructive (to self, and to all other species, and biota) aberration of evolution (if you are an anthropomorph ... quite possible if this myth is salient for you ... then you can substitute "fulfillment" for "aberration"). But, wait: I said "paradox;" where's the "other side" to complete the dysjunctive conjugation ? Here: this myth, like others, can engender the best within humanity; within its context remarkable individuals can flourish who become exemplars of service, cosmic insight, and selfless behavior. For many people, this myth, and others, are as necessary for survival ... in a world where basic existence is threatened daily ... as food and water: sanity, and the ability to cope, depend on it. So, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that I "celebrate" with you. And, I write this in probably dim awareness that the myths of "no myth," science, rationality, marxism, nihilism, are as real as any myth, albeit pursuing one of those myths leads to a different labyrinth of paradoxes. Oh: "science;" how about quantum mechanics ? There's a set of paradoxes that virtually beg to be packaged into a religion by some prophet, or other. Perhaps we are all, right now, being tickled by a half-dead-half-alive cat's whisker in its temple, while chanting "meow" beneath statues of Saint Schrodinger ? The impossible quest by individuals to abandon all myth has interesting consequences that, I believe, are also paradoxical. "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." Christian "Sacred" Text, King James Version, 1 Corinthians 1:21

          «The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard

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          :omg: As always Bill, you make the Mariana Trench seem like a surface scratch. It's always a privilege to read your esteemed thoughts.

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            HE is Risen :-D :-D Atheism's Attack on Christianity Destroying American Liberty[^] The ‘freedom loving’ Atheist (if there is such a thing) may need to declare a truce with Christians and start focusing on the Marxist-Communist takeover of this country. Despite (the poster-boy for religious right demonization) former President George W. Bush’s perceived offenses, it’s the secular-commies in charge who are the true threat to American freedom and prosperity.

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            Wrong forum. Take it to the Soapbox.

            This space for rent

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            • B BillWoodruff

              He is risen.

              «The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard

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              So it would appear...sound the alarm: nutjob wacko troll alert! :laugh:

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                Is your "real" name Captain SeeSharp?

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                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                I had forgotten that name... and a few others.

                Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Is your "real" name Captain SeeSharp?

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  Aw, Jeeze! I see it, now that you mention it. Or mine eyes have seen the light, or whatever.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • B BillWoodruff

                    I celebrate with you this version of the timeless myth of human sacrifice for humanity's "greater good" in the struggle between good and evil. What profound paradox that this (patriarchal, sky-god) type of myth, and the institutional structures built around it, are responsible for more bloodshed, more human suffering, more loss of human potential, than the other myths that so-called Homo Sapiens uses to avoid facing the fact that we are a violent, territorial, destructive (to self, and to all other species, and biota) aberration of evolution (if you are an anthropomorph ... quite possible if this myth is salient for you ... then you can substitute "fulfillment" for "aberration"). But, wait: I said "paradox;" where's the "other side" to complete the dysjunctive conjugation ? Here: this myth, like others, can engender the best within humanity; within its context remarkable individuals can flourish who become exemplars of service, cosmic insight, and selfless behavior. For many people, this myth, and others, are as necessary for survival ... in a world where basic existence is threatened daily ... as food and water: sanity, and the ability to cope, depend on it. So, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that I "celebrate" with you. And, I write this in probably dim awareness that the myths of "no myth," science, rationality, marxism, nihilism, are as real as any myth, albeit pursuing one of those myths leads to a different labyrinth of paradoxes. Oh: "science;" how about quantum mechanics ? There's a set of paradoxes that virtually beg to be packaged into a religion by some prophet, or other. Perhaps we are all, right now, being tickled by a half-dead-half-alive cat's whisker in its temple, while chanting "meow" beneath statues of Saint Schrodinger ? The impossible quest by individuals to abandon all myth has interesting consequences that, I believe, are also paradoxical. "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." Christian "Sacred" Text, King James Version, 1 Corinthians 1:21

                    «The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard

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                    I'm fine with Christianity, except for the bit where they say that the devil and demons are evil. They're the guys who punish people for doing evil -- I can get behind that. The idea of a god and angels that make people suffer for being good is what I won't align with. To follow the fable: - God makes good people suffer. - Satan disagrees with that, and they go to war. - God wins. - God writes the history, making himself out to be the good guy. Talk about the bleedin' obvious.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      I'm fine with Christianity, except for the bit where they say that the devil and demons are evil. They're the guys who punish people for doing evil -- I can get behind that. The idea of a god and angels that make people suffer for being good is what I won't align with. To follow the fable: - God makes good people suffer. - Satan disagrees with that, and they go to war. - God wins. - God writes the history, making himself out to be the good guy. Talk about the bleedin' obvious.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      except for the bit where they say that the devil and demons are evil

                      You appear to be confusing Christianity with Buffy The Vampire Slayer!

                      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                        Mark_Wallace wrote:

                        except for the bit where they say that the devil and demons are evil

                        You appear to be confusing Christianity with Buffy The Vampire Slayer!

                        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                        Liked the movie, sort-of, but hated the show* * That goes for both christianity and Buffy

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                          I'm fine with Christianity, except for the bit where they say that the devil and demons are evil. They're the guys who punish people for doing evil -- I can get behind that. The idea of a god and angels that make people suffer for being good is what I won't align with. To follow the fable: - God makes good people suffer. - Satan disagrees with that, and they go to war. - God wins. - God writes the history, making himself out to be the good guy. Talk about the bleedin' obvious.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          I'm not familiar with this version, but I really like the way it thickens the plot :) William Blake would be quite "at home" with this version ... ref. "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell" circa 1790CE : "Without Contraries is no progression. Attraction and Repulsion, Reason and Energy, Love and Hate, are necessary to Human existence. From these contraries spring what the religious call Good & Evil. Good is the passive that obeys Reason. Evil is the active springing from Energy." cheers, Bill

                          «The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard

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                            HE is risen indeed! :thumbsup:

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                            Plamen Dragiyski
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                            I cannot help myself, but relate your sentence to the last sentence of a chapter from "Harry Potter" books.

                            Lord Voldemort had risen again.

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                              I'm fine with Christianity, except for the bit where they say that the devil and demons are evil. They're the guys who punish people for doing evil -- I can get behind that. The idea of a god and angels that make people suffer for being good is what I won't align with. To follow the fable: - God makes good people suffer. - Satan disagrees with that, and they go to war. - God wins. - God writes the history, making himself out to be the good guy. Talk about the bleedin' obvious.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              No wonder you don't like "Christianity." You don't know anything about it. :sigh:

                              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                No wonder you don't like "Christianity." You don't know anything about it. :sigh:

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                There is none so blind. And we've already proven that I know more about your religion than you do -- Hell, it doesn't look like you've even read the bible!

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  I'm not familiar with this version, but I really like the way it thickens the plot :) William Blake would be quite "at home" with this version ... ref. "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell" circa 1790CE : "Without Contraries is no progression. Attraction and Repulsion, Reason and Energy, Love and Hate, are necessary to Human existence. From these contraries spring what the religious call Good & Evil. Good is the passive that obeys Reason. Evil is the active springing from Energy." cheers, Bill

                                  «The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  BillWoodruff wrote:

                                  I'm not familiar with this version

                                  Maybe because it's my divination, and I don't talk about it much. It's pretty damned obvious, though. I can't believe that people can believe that God and the angels are the good guys. They're the Axis, but they beat the Allies, so the Allies have gone down in history as the bad guys, no matter how nonsensical it is to believe that the Holocaust was just a "learning experience".

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  • M Mark_Wallace

                                    There is none so blind. And we've already proven that I know more about your religion than you do -- Hell, it doesn't look like you've even read the bible!

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                                    :laugh:

                                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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