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    Lost User
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    FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      regerteast
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      THE FBI NEVER REALLY NEEDED APPLE THEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS SH*T THE WHOLE TIME JUST REIMAGE IT ONTO DUPLICATE HARDWARE AND KEEP TRYING ALL 10000 CODES... They were trying to set a precedent to terrorize other companies besides apple so they have a back door into everything :wtf: and it blew up in their faces with pubic opinion

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        FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

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        Sadly, there are a number of questions that we'll probably never get honest answers to: 0) Who helped the FBI? (NSA, private tech firm, some random hacker, etc...) 1) Did they really crack the phone or was the FBI just trying to get out of a situation that was starting to head South on them? 2) What method did they use? 3) Did they actually find any data on this phone to warrant their desire to threaten the privacy of so many innocent people. Assuming that they did in fact crack the phone's security and that Apple figures out how they did it and changes things so it won't work on some future OS or device - Apple hasn't seen the last of this. It will be interesting to see what other tech companies will be targeted. And how well they stand up to it. It will also be interesting to see if the FBI shares this new method with the dozens of law enforcement offices around the country who said they too have locked iPhones.

        There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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          Sadly, there are a number of questions that we'll probably never get honest answers to: 0) Who helped the FBI? (NSA, private tech firm, some random hacker, etc...) 1) Did they really crack the phone or was the FBI just trying to get out of a situation that was starting to head South on them? 2) What method did they use? 3) Did they actually find any data on this phone to warrant their desire to threaten the privacy of so many innocent people. Assuming that they did in fact crack the phone's security and that Apple figures out how they did it and changes things so it won't work on some future OS or device - Apple hasn't seen the last of this. It will be interesting to see what other tech companies will be targeted. And how well they stand up to it. It will also be interesting to see if the FBI shares this new method with the dozens of law enforcement offices around the country who said they too have locked iPhones.

          There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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          Why would you want our enemies to know the answers to those questions?

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            FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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            Oh gawd...you've set the Captain off again! But he can't seem to make up his mind if it's a good or bad thing this time... :laugh:

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

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              I'm not buying it for a second. Having been roasted in the Congressional Hearing the FBI has every need to back down gracefully so until proven otherwise I'm inclined to believe either .. a) they haven't cracked it at all but it's judicious to say they have b) they attempted the crack, destroyed the data, and are desperately covering up Whatever the truth, they haven't made any suggestion that they've learnt anything of any use to further this investigation or lead off new ones so was it worth it? Was it heck as like!

              I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

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                My suspicion is that Apple and the FBI settled "Out of Court" and we'll just say it was an unidentified source. Apple can go on selling your phones and the FBI can chase their rabbits. This all will go away by week's end and the selfies can continue on. The smartphone target market is about as blindly apathetic as can possibly be. This is good for both the FBI and Apple.

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                  Sadly, there are a number of questions that we'll probably never get honest answers to: 0) Who helped the FBI? (NSA, private tech firm, some random hacker, etc...) 1) Did they really crack the phone or was the FBI just trying to get out of a situation that was starting to head South on them? 2) What method did they use? 3) Did they actually find any data on this phone to warrant their desire to threaten the privacy of so many innocent people. Assuming that they did in fact crack the phone's security and that Apple figures out how they did it and changes things so it won't work on some future OS or device - Apple hasn't seen the last of this. It will be interesting to see what other tech companies will be targeted. And how well they stand up to it. It will also be interesting to see if the FBI shares this new method with the dozens of law enforcement offices around the country who said they too have locked iPhones.

                  There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                  Mike Mullikin wrote:

                  1. Who helped the FBI? (NSA, private tech firm, some random hacker, etc...) 1) Did they really crack the phone or was the FBI just trying to get out of a situation that was starting to head South on them?
                  1. Apple Did 2) Yes, Apple did. Neither the FBI nor Apple wanted this showdown. I bet Apple approached the FBI ad said "We'll let you in, but just this one time, and ONLY IF you drop this lawsuit and NEVER ask us again" Poof, they're in.

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                    Oh gawd...you've set the Captain off again! But he can't seem to make up his mind if it's a good or bad thing this time... :laugh:

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    Quote:

                    Oh gawd...you've set the Captain off again

                    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgghh!

                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      1. Who helped the FBI? (NSA, private tech firm, some random hacker, etc...) 1) Did they really crack the phone or was the FBI just trying to get out of a situation that was starting to head South on them?
                      1. Apple Did 2) Yes, Apple did. Neither the FBI nor Apple wanted this showdown. I bet Apple approached the FBI ad said "We'll let you in, but just this one time, and ONLY IF you drop this lawsuit and NEVER ask us again" Poof, they're in.

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                      I don't think so for 2 reasons... If this leaked Apple would get killed by the media and the markets. 10's of billions of dollars at stake - maybe more. No way they cave so easily. Despite their early rhetoric, the FBI would never agree to a one and done. Never.

                      There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                        I don't think so for 2 reasons... If this leaked Apple would get killed by the media and the markets. 10's of billions of dollars at stake - maybe more. No way they cave so easily. Despite their early rhetoric, the FBI would never agree to a one and done. Never.

                        There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                        Think about this logically... ...if Apple's phones were hackable, it would have been done by now. This would have been front page news the moment it happened... LONG before now. Apples doesn't want to take a chance that the court would order them to help.

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                          Think about this logically... ...if Apple's phones were hackable, it would have been done by now. This would have been front page news the moment it happened... LONG before now. Apples doesn't want to take a chance that the court would order them to help.

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                          I disagree - using that logic Apple never would have publicly denied the request.

                          There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                            I disagree - using that logic Apple never would have publicly denied the request.

                            There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                            They didn't deny it because their phones can be hacked. They said no because they don't want a precedent to be set. One it's done, the precedent is set, and the Gov can then order them to do it again, or worse, do other things. Apple would have been at the mercy of the any Gov agency that wanted whatever's on the phone. Of course Apple has the means to unlock a phone. THEY wrote it... They just don't want to be at the mercy of the gov. If someone other than Apple could get into their phones it would have been front page news long ago.

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                              I don't think so for 2 reasons... If this leaked Apple would get killed by the media and the markets. 10's of billions of dollars at stake - maybe more. No way they cave so easily. Despite their early rhetoric, the FBI would never agree to a one and done. Never.

                              There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                              Normally I would agree...But let's remember that RSA who's sole purpose is the encryption of data. Put a weakened algorithm into their product for 10 million dollars for the NSA. They have been found out and it hasn't hurt them. By all rights this company should be no more. But they are going strong.

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                                FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

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                                I really do not understand all the fuss. The FBI needs to access the data, Apple provide them with the data, period. Privacy protection from Apple ? mwawawahhh. To protect a terrorist ? mwamwaaaawawawaaawawahhh.

                                Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                  FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

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                                  Images of 1984...George Orwell got is too right.

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                                    FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

                                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                    ledtech3
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                                    Well they did have several Offers to help do it if they would drop the back door Fiasco.

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                                      THE FBI NEVER REALLY NEEDED APPLE THEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS SH*T THE WHOLE TIME JUST REIMAGE IT ONTO DUPLICATE HARDWARE AND KEEP TRYING ALL 10000 CODES... They were trying to set a precedent to terrorize other companies besides apple so they have a back door into everything :wtf: and it blew up in their faces with pubic opinion

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                                      Minion no 5
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                                      Not if the serial number of the flash is part of the seed for the encryption.

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                                        FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

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                                        [^] I swear, noone listens to me ... :^)

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                                          Think about this logically... ...if Apple's phones were hackable, it would have been done by now. This would have been front page news the moment it happened... LONG before now. Apples doesn't want to take a chance that the court would order them to help.

                                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          Kevin Marois wrote:

                                          if Apple's phones were hackable, it would have been done by now.

                                          Everything is hackable. Just saying. :^)

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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