You think EU food regulations are barking?
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Get a load of Florida's labelling requirements[^]!
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Why in heaven's name would anyone not add vitamins to milk? Especially vitamin D. We had a severe rickets epidemic among kids in the USA that completely stopped when the state dictated that milk should be enriched with D. Our bodies cannot synthesize D and it does not occur naturally in the foods we eat. (Except for a few fish dishes.) Nature intended for us to get it by exposure to sunlight, but few people get enough sun, including kids who spend a lot of time indoors in class rooms and in the home. The demand for unenriched milk must be fuelled by a bunch of hippies again. Probably the same sunshines who preach against vaccination. However, they're not worthy of a title like "sunshine". See this thread: The Lounge - CodeProject[^]
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Why in heaven's name would anyone not add vitamins to milk? Especially vitamin D. We had a severe rickets epidemic among kids in the USA that completely stopped when the state dictated that milk should be enriched with D. Our bodies cannot synthesize D and it does not occur naturally in the foods we eat. (Except for a few fish dishes.) Nature intended for us to get it by exposure to sunlight, but few people get enough sun, including kids who spend a lot of time indoors in class rooms and in the home. The demand for unenriched milk must be fuelled by a bunch of hippies again. Probably the same sunshines who preach against vaccination. However, they're not worthy of a title like "sunshine". See this thread: The Lounge - CodeProject[^]
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Er .. fascinating but totally irrelevant. It is the upside down logic of this ruling that's in question. The ruling in short says that if you produce the natural product skimmed milk you must describe it as artificial unless you artificially add vitamins. In other words you can only call it natural if it's artificial! Nobody's arguing that enhancing the vitamin content of milk is a bad thing in itself, although you should be aware that the practice is not one adopted by many countries outside USA, and certainly not in UK. All anyone's saying is that if, in the state of Florida where, let's face it, you have to work pretty damned hard to get neither enough sun nor dietary vitamin D, people want to sell or buy natural milk products they should be allowed to do so without having to pick through obscure and deliberately misleading descriptions. I do have to wonder how you hold the following two statements to be both true?
Cornelius Henning wrote:
Nature intended for us to get it by exposure to sunlight
Cornelius Henning wrote:
Our bodies cannot synthesize D
And as for ...
Cornelius Henning wrote:
it does not occur naturally in the foods we eat
Well, yeah, it does, in milk. The fortification of milk is supplementary not introductory! Also, not just fish, salmon and tuna principally, but eggs, mushrooms, pork, tofu, and cheeses, especially ricotta! Also there are plenty of other fortified foods available including orange juice, and breakfast cereals.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Why in heaven's name would anyone not add vitamins to milk? Especially vitamin D. We had a severe rickets epidemic among kids in the USA that completely stopped when the state dictated that milk should be enriched with D. Our bodies cannot synthesize D and it does not occur naturally in the foods we eat. (Except for a few fish dishes.) Nature intended for us to get it by exposure to sunlight, but few people get enough sun, including kids who spend a lot of time indoors in class rooms and in the home. The demand for unenriched milk must be fuelled by a bunch of hippies again. Probably the same sunshines who preach against vaccination. However, they're not worthy of a title like "sunshine". See this thread: The Lounge - CodeProject[^]
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
Cornelius Henning wrote:
Probably the same sunshines who preach against vaccination
There are those who preach the other way[^]
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Er .. fascinating but totally irrelevant. It is the upside down logic of this ruling that's in question. The ruling in short says that if you produce the natural product skimmed milk you must describe it as artificial unless you artificially add vitamins. In other words you can only call it natural if it's artificial! Nobody's arguing that enhancing the vitamin content of milk is a bad thing in itself, although you should be aware that the practice is not one adopted by many countries outside USA, and certainly not in UK. All anyone's saying is that if, in the state of Florida where, let's face it, you have to work pretty damned hard to get neither enough sun nor dietary vitamin D, people want to sell or buy natural milk products they should be allowed to do so without having to pick through obscure and deliberately misleading descriptions. I do have to wonder how you hold the following two statements to be both true?
Cornelius Henning wrote:
Nature intended for us to get it by exposure to sunlight
Cornelius Henning wrote:
Our bodies cannot synthesize D
And as for ...
Cornelius Henning wrote:
it does not occur naturally in the foods we eat
Well, yeah, it does, in milk. The fortification of milk is supplementary not introductory! Also, not just fish, salmon and tuna principally, but eggs, mushrooms, pork, tofu, and cheeses, especially ricotta! Also there are plenty of other fortified foods available including orange juice, and breakfast cereals.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
It's a fact that vitamin D is created by sunlight in our skins. Google it if you want to confirm. And: The term "vitamin" is usually reserved for essential nutrients that the body cannot synthesize, or in the case of vitamins like niacin, not in sufficient quantities. You have to get it from foods, or in the case of D, mainly from sunlight or enriched milk. Feel free to research this if you don't believe me. :)
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Cornelius Henning wrote:
Probably the same sunshines who preach against vaccination
There are those who preach the other way[^]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Cornelius Henning wrote:
Probably the same sunshines who preach against vaccination
There are those who preach the other way[^]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
The government wants to force all children to get pumped full of chemicals and don't give a crap if it kills or maims part of them because its less risky to herd together and control large numbers of them if they are vaccinated, basically treated like domesticated human livestock.
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It's a fact that vitamin D is created by sunlight in our skins. Google it if you want to confirm. And: The term "vitamin" is usually reserved for essential nutrients that the body cannot synthesize, or in the case of vitamins like niacin, not in sufficient quantities. You have to get it from foods, or in the case of D, mainly from sunlight or enriched milk. Feel free to research this if you don't believe me. :)
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What is the process of creating vitamin D from 7-dehydrocholesterol under UVB radiation if it's not synthesis then?
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It's good to see you've done some research. :) I am not an expert, but I suppose the people who defined the term "synthesis" excluded production of nutrients that are produced with help from external factors, like sunlight. Who knows exactly what their criteria were? The whole field of "essential nutrients" is fascinating to study. Did you read up on rickets? You may find it very interesting: Rickets - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^]
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What is the process of creating vitamin D from 7-dehydrocholesterol under UVB radiation if it's not synthesis then?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
Muscle cramps may be due to a stroke of Divine Punishment or a Devil Counterattack. Confusion in the head from a demon causes loss of circulation and tightening of the muscles in the feet, toes, and legs or even in the hands and fingers. The cramps may be associated with stress and anxiety like a psychosomatic problem. Vitamins may correct the problem's symptoms, but the root is spiritual.
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Why in heaven's name would anyone not add vitamins to milk? Especially vitamin D. We had a severe rickets epidemic among kids in the USA that completely stopped when the state dictated that milk should be enriched with D. Our bodies cannot synthesize D and it does not occur naturally in the foods we eat. (Except for a few fish dishes.) Nature intended for us to get it by exposure to sunlight, but few people get enough sun, including kids who spend a lot of time indoors in class rooms and in the home. The demand for unenriched milk must be fuelled by a bunch of hippies again. Probably the same sunshines who preach against vaccination. However, they're not worthy of a title like "sunshine". See this thread: The Lounge - CodeProject[^]
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Cornelius Henning wrote:
but few people get enough sun,
Are we not talking about Florida?
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Er .. fascinating but totally irrelevant. It is the upside down logic of this ruling that's in question. The ruling in short says that if you produce the natural product skimmed milk you must describe it as artificial unless you artificially add vitamins. In other words you can only call it natural if it's artificial! Nobody's arguing that enhancing the vitamin content of milk is a bad thing in itself, although you should be aware that the practice is not one adopted by many countries outside USA, and certainly not in UK. All anyone's saying is that if, in the state of Florida where, let's face it, you have to work pretty damned hard to get neither enough sun nor dietary vitamin D, people want to sell or buy natural milk products they should be allowed to do so without having to pick through obscure and deliberately misleading descriptions. I do have to wonder how you hold the following two statements to be both true?
Cornelius Henning wrote:
Nature intended for us to get it by exposure to sunlight
Cornelius Henning wrote:
Our bodies cannot synthesize D
And as for ...
Cornelius Henning wrote:
it does not occur naturally in the foods we eat
Well, yeah, it does, in milk. The fortification of milk is supplementary not introductory! Also, not just fish, salmon and tuna principally, but eggs, mushrooms, pork, tofu, and cheeses, especially ricotta! Also there are plenty of other fortified foods available including orange juice, and breakfast cereals.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
