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[Update] Shall I Take This As a Negative For Me?

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  • J Johnny J

    Maximilien wrote:

    and what you answered.

    Exactly - You should never, ever - no matter how much you hates your current job and boss - speak ill of them to a new potential employer. Because the potential new employer will think that if you speak ill of your current employer, you may also do so about them, should they decide to hire you... :doh:

    Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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    I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
    Me, all the time

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    den2k88
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    For the sake of sincerity is better to stay neutral and use expo-speak. Like "the quality of management has declined over time" and similar circling-the-matter words. After all if the management is unfair or incompetent it needs to be said - of course keeping in mind that slandering the current employer is a very very bad strategy.

    GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

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    • D Django_Untaken

      Hello there. Recently I had an interview with CEO of this company. In the final phase of this interview, he asked about some of the people who happen to be my current managers in current company. Although switching companies for a number of reasons (including but not limited to money) is not a crime, but should I be worried (are my chances of getting hired slim) ? =========== EDIT ================ Thanks a lot for your feedback guys. 1- Some of you guys are right. He knew those people and just wanted (or intended) to check what/how they are doing. 2- I, definitely, did not speak ill of them. My worry was, is there any chance he would contact my current employer? But after posting this question, when I analyzed his tone and the way he was talking, I came to the conclusion that he was only asking about his past work-mates. That's all.

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      Pete Zahir
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      If you are a developer, who interviewed with the CEO Then the company is small and you should be very worried

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        If you are a developer, who interviewed with the CEO Then the company is small and you should be very worried

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        Johnny J
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        Why? Don't be stupid! There's nothing wrong with working for a small company. Often, they will offer you better conditions and benefits than large companies! :doh:

        Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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        The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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        I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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        • J Johnny J

          Why? Don't be stupid! There's nothing wrong with working for a small company. Often, they will offer you better conditions and benefits than large companies! :doh:

          Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
          Anonymous
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          The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
          Winston Churchill, 1944
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          I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
          Me, all the time

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          Pete Zahir
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          Hours, and project scope creep are problems. CEO gets last minute feature request from his friend, and developer is not part of that "friend" network from before the company...

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            If you are a developer, who interviewed with the CEO Then the company is small and you should be very worried

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            den2k88
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            Not necessarily, the company where I work has very few organizational layers so it's not unheard of to be interviewed by the CEO. Usually there are only 3 layers: CEO -> Area Manager -> slaves all the rest. The additional layers are virtual and local, meaning I may refer to my responsible... who is actually on my same level, it's simply a convention. And the company is a multinational with over 220 direct employees plus almost 3 thousands in the companies we absorbed.

            GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

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            • P Pete Zahir

              Hours, and project scope creep are problems. CEO gets last minute feature request from his friend, and developer is not part of that "friend" network from before the company...

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              Johnny J
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              Guess you haven't worked for the same small companies I have! :doh:

              Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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              The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
              Winston Churchill, 1944
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              I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
              Me, all the time

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              • P Pete Zahir

                Hours, and project scope creep are problems. CEO gets last minute feature request from his friend, and developer is not part of that "friend" network from before the company...

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                den2k88
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                With this statement I completely agree. I'll never work for small companies again if I can help it - been there done that. Also they tend to bust easier and the Italian law gives very little assurances to small companies employees. Which is also a reason many companies struggle to not grow, which is a challenge in itself, in order to be exempt from a number of law obligations.

                GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

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                • D Django_Untaken

                  Hello there. Recently I had an interview with CEO of this company. In the final phase of this interview, he asked about some of the people who happen to be my current managers in current company. Although switching companies for a number of reasons (including but not limited to money) is not a crime, but should I be worried (are my chances of getting hired slim) ? =========== EDIT ================ Thanks a lot for your feedback guys. 1- Some of you guys are right. He knew those people and just wanted (or intended) to check what/how they are doing. 2- I, definitely, did not speak ill of them. My worry was, is there any chance he would contact my current employer? But after posting this question, when I analyzed his tone and the way he was talking, I came to the conclusion that he was only asking about his past work-mates. That's all.

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                  KarstenK
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                  Business is tricky: a) the CEO may only want some information about your old company. b) but maybe he knows somebody and in your telling about him he can judge you. If you speak too bad about your current company it falls back on you: illoyal and incompetent :~

                  Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                  • D Django_Untaken

                    Hello there. Recently I had an interview with CEO of this company. In the final phase of this interview, he asked about some of the people who happen to be my current managers in current company. Although switching companies for a number of reasons (including but not limited to money) is not a crime, but should I be worried (are my chances of getting hired slim) ? =========== EDIT ================ Thanks a lot for your feedback guys. 1- Some of you guys are right. He knew those people and just wanted (or intended) to check what/how they are doing. 2- I, definitely, did not speak ill of them. My worry was, is there any chance he would contact my current employer? But after posting this question, when I analyzed his tone and the way he was talking, I came to the conclusion that he was only asking about his past work-mates. That's all.

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                    jsc42
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                    This is too late for you, but might help someone else in a similar situation. Never say negative things about current colleagues or management - it will make your future employer think that you have no respect for authority (so you will not respect him / her). Also, it is very unprofessional. Instead, limit yourself to anodyne statements or positive praise; and, if pushed to 'dish the dirt' (which you must never do), say that it would be inappropriate to discuss other people in this situation.

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                    • D Django_Untaken

                      Hello there. Recently I had an interview with CEO of this company. In the final phase of this interview, he asked about some of the people who happen to be my current managers in current company. Although switching companies for a number of reasons (including but not limited to money) is not a crime, but should I be worried (are my chances of getting hired slim) ? =========== EDIT ================ Thanks a lot for your feedback guys. 1- Some of you guys are right. He knew those people and just wanted (or intended) to check what/how they are doing. 2- I, definitely, did not speak ill of them. My worry was, is there any chance he would contact my current employer? But after posting this question, when I analyzed his tone and the way he was talking, I came to the conclusion that he was only asking about his past work-mates. That's all.

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                      Eytukan
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                      Django_Untaken wrote:

                      But after posting this question, when I analyzed his tone and the way he was talking, I came to the conclusion that he was only asking about his past work-mates. That's all

                      So I'm right! It is such an usual thing as people (Managers in your context) happen to know each other so well. Primarily through linked-in and many of them happens to be from same batch in their colleges/schools etc. So there's nothing unusual! Whenever you get here, all you need to say is "Yep, there are all doing fine!' Thats all. So like I said, you don't have a problem there. (Hoping that you faired well in other rounds of the interview!)

                      Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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