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  • L Lost User

    Cough! Cough![^]

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    szukuro
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    If you are talking about users (as is the case) and not website visits, Net Market Share is more accurate. Net Market Share vs. StatCounter: Whose online measurements can you trust ZDNet[^]

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      Well, equally where did anyone suggest limiting it to only the 5 most used? Point is that it's not everyone that uses Chrome and by a long way so.

      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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      Lost User
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      9082365 wrote:

      Well, equally where did anyone suggest limiting it to only the 5 most used?

      When #5 is sitting at less than 1.5%... what's the point?

      9082365 wrote:

      Point is that it's not everyone that uses Chrome and by a long way so.

      Very true, I just thought your statistic was deceiving.

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        If you are talking about users (as is the case) and not website visits, Net Market Share is more accurate. Net Market Share vs. StatCounter: Whose online measurements can you trust ZDNet[^]

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        Lost User
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        szukuro wrote:

        Net Market Share is more accurate.

        OK... what does Net Market Share indicate when we include all platforms instead of just desktop? I tried to check but it wanted me to pay for the honor.

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          szukuro wrote:

          Net Market Share is more accurate.

          OK... what does Net Market Share indicate when we include all platforms instead of just desktop? I tried to check but it wanted me to pay for the honor.

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          szukuro
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          It's not about desktop, it's about measuring strategy. The article linked explains it. But let me demonstrate with a simple example: Alice opens codeproject.com in IE Bob opens codeproject.com in IE Charlie opens codeproject.com in Chrome, then opens 3 other websites with the same. Net Market Share will report 66% IE, because 66% of people use that browser. Most other sites will report 33%, because across all those websites 2 out of 6 requests came from Chrome. That's why you can end up with wildly differing numbers.

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            It's not about desktop, it's about measuring strategy. The article linked explains it. But let me demonstrate with a simple example: Alice opens codeproject.com in IE Bob opens codeproject.com in IE Charlie opens codeproject.com in Chrome, then opens 3 other websites with the same. Net Market Share will report 66% IE, because 66% of people use that browser. Most other sites will report 33%, because across all those websites 2 out of 6 requests came from Chrome. That's why you can end up with wildly differing numbers.

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            Lost User
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            Yeah, I get it but it's irrelevant to this discussion. Someone quoted a statistic about browser usage that (to me) looked very wrong. The data he provided was for desktop usage only. All I'm saying is that it would be nice to see the expanded data from the same source that includes mobile devices as well. Kapeesh?

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            • L Lost User

              Yeah, I get it but it's irrelevant to this discussion. Someone quoted a statistic about browser usage that (to me) looked very wrong. The data he provided was for desktop usage only. All I'm saying is that it would be nice to see the expanded data from the same source that includes mobile devices as well. Kapeesh?

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              szukuro
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              Mike Mullikin wrote:

              statistic about browser usage that (to me) looked very wrong

              But that's the whole point, Chrome is still not used by the majority of people, so it makes sense for them to advertise it (contrary what OP suggested). The statistics you linked as a reply to a statement about Chrome not being dominant at all, without context, seemed to imply differently. I've just pointed out (replying to that post) that the previous statement was correct, still more people use IE than Chrome.

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                Mike Mullikin wrote:

                statistic about browser usage that (to me) looked very wrong

                But that's the whole point, Chrome is still not used by the majority of people, so it makes sense for them to advertise it (contrary what OP suggested). The statistics you linked as a reply to a statement about Chrome not being dominant at all, without context, seemed to imply differently. I've just pointed out (replying to that post) that the previous statement was correct, still more people use IE than Chrome.

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                Lost User
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                szukuro wrote:

                still more people use IE than Chrome.

                Please provide data that includes mobile devices that indicates that.

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                  Atishoo, atishoo, they all fall down![^]

                  I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                  Lost User
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                  IE doesn't count. It's the default browser on Windows, people just use it. It's also forced down our throats in corporate environments. Those users have no choice, Google could pop up ads until hell freezes over (or heaven vaporizes, depending on what you believe about global warming) without making any difference.

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                  • L Lost User

                    szukuro wrote:

                    still more people use IE than Chrome.

                    Please provide data that includes mobile devices that indicates that.

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    Indeed - I use Chrome on my desktop, and my tablet, and my phone - and since Chrome ships with every Android device I can think of, and since Android is the most used mobile OS[^] I think Chrome is likely to come out well ahead of IE...

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                    • L Lost User

                      That's the latest one. Aren't they going a bit too far with the nagging? Doesn't everybody already use it?

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                      Basildane
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                      I don't use Google OR Chrome. * I do open it maybe once a year at work to validate code works across platforms... Same goes for every other "cloud" service.

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                        aaryan42 wrote:

                        Doesn't everybody already use it?

                        Nope. Not even close (EU, please note!) Running at about 25% market share at the moment, well behind both MS's various offerings and oddments various (though thrashing Firefox!)

                        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                        Basildane
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                        You made me curious, so I just pulled some data from one of my servers. For the last 200,000 requests on a production server, worldwide: 1. Chrome 37.90% 2. Internet Explorer 24.30% 3. Safari 18.60% 4. Firefox 15.38% I have no opinion, I'm just reporting the data for it's own sake.

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                        • L Lost User

                          That's the latest one. Aren't they going a bit too far with the nagging? Doesn't everybody already use it?

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          "Does this browser make me look fat?"

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          • L Lost User

                            That's the latest one. Aren't they going a bit too far with the nagging? Doesn't everybody already use it?

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            aaryan42 wrote:

                            Aren't they going a bit too far with the nagging?

                            They're long past going too far, which is why I haven't used google search for months.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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