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  • R Rage

    Marc Clifton wrote:

    Person of Interest

    Curious you talk about it, I found some very interesting insights in this series : it is overall a typical US series on many aspects, especially the exaggeration, but they sometimes had really good points. I am rerererereading the robots from Asimov, and I find similarities in some of the questioning - for instance about how much human beings an AI could reasonably sacrifice for the well being of the rest of the existing or future population.

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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    Rage wrote:

    but they sometimes had really good points.

    It's the first show that I've seen that actually references some real mathematical concepts. It was a new experience to hear something mentioned in the show, and I would wonder, what the heck is that algorithm they just mentioned, google it, and lo-and-behold, it's a real thing. I learned stuff!

    Rage wrote:

    for instance about how much human beings an AI could reasonably sacrifice for the well being of the rest of the existing or future population.

    What I enjoyed about Asimov is that he didn't focus on the tech, but the social implications and challenges of the tech. It made for much more interesting reading! Marc

    Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      the series Person of Interest

      My current guilty pleasure, binge-watching on Netflix.

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      Marc Clifton
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      Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

      binge-watching on Netflix.

      Been there, done that. :) Considering doing it again! Marc

      Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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      • L Lost User

        What Orwell failed to predict is that we would buy the cameras ourselves...then worry that no-one was watching.

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        Nathan Minier
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        Yet he failed to predict that brainwashing would be completely unnecessary in the face of the public shaming from the thought police.

        "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Rage wrote:

          but they sometimes had really good points.

          It's the first show that I've seen that actually references some real mathematical concepts. It was a new experience to hear something mentioned in the show, and I would wonder, what the heck is that algorithm they just mentioned, google it, and lo-and-behold, it's a real thing. I learned stuff!

          Rage wrote:

          for instance about how much human beings an AI could reasonably sacrifice for the well being of the rest of the existing or future population.

          What I enjoyed about Asimov is that he didn't focus on the tech, but the social implications and challenges of the tech. It made for much more interesting reading! Marc

          Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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          9082365
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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          It's the first show that I've seen that actually references some real mathematical concepts.

          Do you not watch The Simpsons then? And I take it you missed Numb3rs?

          I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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            What Orwell failed to predict is that we would buy the cameras ourselves...then worry that no-one was watching.

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            Mark_Wallace
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            That is actually one of the most brilliant observations I've seen in CP. I can't believe you're from Pompey -- I mean, we're idiots, aren't we?

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              That is actually one of the most brilliant observations I've seen in CP. I can't believe you're from Pompey -- I mean, we're idiots, aren't we?

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Herbie Mountjoy
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              1984? Been there. Done that.

              I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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              • M Mandeep8

                KGB and stasi would go into houses and place "bugs" American ingenuity was using "bait" with such service as Facebook and cellular, so people would wilfully accept the spying device and carry it 24/7

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                Bruce Patin
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                U.S. spy agencies do that too.

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                • L Lost User

                  We can film the regular police yes, but can we film the secret police?

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                  Bruce Patin
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                  Yes, but surreptitiously.

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                    WHY conspiracy theorists all have a lack of control over their lives? And tend to be poorly educated? Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories? - Scientific American[^] Here's Why People Believe In Conspiracy Theories[^]

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                    Bruce Patin
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                    Pardon me, but I am a conspiracy theorist and have a degree in physics. I have also lived and worked with spies, still keep in touch a bit, and know that many conspiracy theories are quite valid.

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                    • C Clifford Nelson

                      Actually that has been positive. With our own cameras we can watch the police (gestapo) and provide evidence that the police are acting outside accepted parameters, and thus protect the people. It has made such a difference. In the past the police would get away with their bad behavior.

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                      Ed K
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                      It's been even more productive with police wearing cameras or in vehicles providing proof that protects the officer. Although in some sad cases the identity of the murderer of the officer.

                      ed ~"Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." -Frank Outlaw.

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